Notices
Non Scooby Related Anything Non-Scooby related

South East England's drought?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 21 March 2006, 01:44 PM
  #1  
DrEvil
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
DrEvil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Surrey, UK
Posts: 8,384
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thumbs down South East England's drought?

http://www.beatthedrought.com/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/4823938.stm

Not looking good for us south-east'ers - come Autumn this year, you car will be caked in mud and your garden like the Sahara...
Old 21 March 2006, 01:45 PM
  #2  
SiPie
Scooby Regular
 
SiPie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Scotland
Posts: 7,249
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Talking

Sell you some
Old 21 March 2006, 01:47 PM
  #3  
OllyK
Scooby Regular
 
OllyK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 12,304
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Get yourself a grey water store sorted, OK, you won't be drinking it, but you can have a nice green garden and really **** the neighbours off to boot! We're in the process of putting in a 3000 litre underground tank that collects the run off from the gutters and the area where we wash the cars down!
Old 21 March 2006, 01:47 PM
  #4  
Karl 227
BANNED
 
Karl 227's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: In my Austrian hole
Posts: 58,500
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

What is the bloody problem in England with water shortage all the time and then floods?
Old 21 March 2006, 01:50 PM
  #5  
Karl 227
BANNED
 
Karl 227's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: In my Austrian hole
Posts: 58,500
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by OllyK
Get yourself a grey water store sorted, OK, you won't be drinking it, but you can have a nice green garden and really **** the neighbours off to boot! We're in the process of putting in a 3000 litre underground tank that collects the run off from the gutters and the area where we wash the cars down!
And with this little puppy you can recycle all of the water in your household


Old 21 March 2006, 01:52 PM
  #6  
unclebuck
Scooby Regular
 
unclebuck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Talk to the hand....
Posts: 13,331
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by OllyK
Get yourself a grey water store sorted, OK, you won't be drinking it, but you can have a nice green garden and really **** the neighbours off to boot! We're in the process of putting in a 3000 litre underground tank that collects the run off from the gutters and the area where we wash the cars down!
Great idea. But if it never rains there's nothing to harvest. How long would it take for you to break even on your investment?
Old 21 March 2006, 01:54 PM
  #7  
lightning101
Scooby Regular
 
lightning101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Never do names esp. Joey, spaz or Mong
Posts: 39,688
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

You still won't be able to use a hosepipe with it though, its the hoses that are banned, not the water

Trending Topics

Old 21 March 2006, 01:55 PM
  #8  
OllyK
Scooby Regular
 
OllyK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 12,304
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Karl 227
And with this little puppy you can recycle all of the water in your household


Worth investigating, but our tank is by the garage some 50m or so from the main house, and I can do without digging the garden up again to run a water pipe back up the garden!
Old 21 March 2006, 01:58 PM
  #9  
OllyK
Scooby Regular
 
OllyK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 12,304
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by lightning101
You still won't be able to use a hosepipe with it though, its the hoses that are banned, not the water
It's OK, our irrigation system is underground!!
Old 21 March 2006, 02:13 PM
  #10  
Dieseldog
Scooby Regular
 
Dieseldog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 813
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Simple solution - just take more water from Scotland and Wales
Old 21 March 2006, 02:22 PM
  #11  
stevencotton
Scooby Regular
 
stevencotton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: behind twin turbos
Posts: 2,710
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by Karl 227
What is the bloody problem in England with water shortage all the time and then floods?
Poor quality piping leaking it all into the ground? The junction of Oxford Street and Poland Street has about 3 or 4 burst mains a year, the water is literally pumping out of the ground like there is no tomorrow when it goes. I imagine that happens all over the UK - or the south east at least.
Old 21 March 2006, 02:28 PM
  #12  
Karl 227
BANNED
 
Karl 227's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: In my Austrian hole
Posts: 58,500
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Blimey
Old 21 March 2006, 02:37 PM
  #13  
OllyK
Scooby Regular
 
OllyK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 12,304
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by stevencotton
Poor quality piping leaking it all into the ground? The junction of Oxford Street and Poland Street has about 3 or 4 burst mains a year, the water is literally pumping out of the ground like there is no tomorrow when it goes. I imagine that happens all over the UK - or the south east at least.
Indeed

Thames loses 915 million litres a day, the regulator said - enough to fill 366 Olympic-sized swimming pools.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4681211.stm
Old 21 March 2006, 02:43 PM
  #14  
Karl 227
BANNED
 
Karl 227's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: In my Austrian hole
Posts: 58,500
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

That's disgusting and shouldn't be allowed, how can they get away with that when everyone's told there's a water shortage and it should be conserved?
Old 21 March 2006, 02:49 PM
  #15  
StickyMicky
Scooby Regular
 
StickyMicky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Zed Ess Won Hay Tee
Posts: 21,611
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

not everybody

fine up here in the proper end of the country
Old 21 March 2006, 02:56 PM
  #16  
Karl 227
BANNED
 
Karl 227's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: In my Austrian hole
Posts: 58,500
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Alright then

That's disgusting and shouldn't be allowed, how can they get away with that when people at the wrong end of the country are told there's a water shortage and it should be conserved?

*Northern Accent On*

> I had to change that because Stickey Mickey was being a little picky weren't you Stickey Mickey, when the boat comes in

*Northern Accent Off*
Old 21 March 2006, 02:58 PM
  #17  
Buckwheat
Scooby Regular
 
Buckwheat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Denver
Posts: 265
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

And only six years since this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/flood_facts.shtml

Rainfall for September to November 2000 was the highest since records began in 1766
Old 21 March 2006, 03:12 PM
  #18  
DrEvil
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
DrEvil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Surrey, UK
Posts: 8,384
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

One thought - it is all very well say there was less rain in the last 12 months - but what percentage was actually 'caught n stored' reservoirs?

Surely they need more reservoirs built in the south east than they currently have?

Of course, after they plugged the massive 'leaks'...

As for the 'water storage' ideas - thanks, but I ain't got a lot of land , so at best I'm looking at a 500ltr water butt.
Old 21 March 2006, 03:15 PM
  #19  
Karl 227
BANNED
 
Karl 227's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: In my Austrian hole
Posts: 58,500
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by DrEvil
One thought - it is all very well say there was less rain in the last 12 months - but what percentage was actually 'caught n stored' reservoirs?
Sounds to me like they're using the wrong sort of nets to catch it
Old 21 March 2006, 03:22 PM
  #20  
Flatcapdriver
Scooby Regular
 
Flatcapdriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: www.tiovicente.com
Posts: 2,006
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Dr.Evil, I flew over Bewley the other day and I was amazed at the lack of water in it, so I don't think it's simply a case of building more reservoirs as this is a once a century phenomenom.

Whilst the water companies have to bear up to their share of the problem, as consumers we simply have to hold our hands up and use less water by flushing the toilet less, having showers instead of baths and recyclying water for the garden. As I said in an earlier thread concerning the toilet, if it's yellow, let it mellow, if it's brown, flush it down...
Old 21 March 2006, 03:31 PM
  #21  
Mr Bat
Scooby Regular
 
Mr Bat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 248
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

In terms of domestic water, if all toilet/bath/shower water goes back into the sewer system, surely all the water companies have to do is treat this water and then not lose 900 million litres a day in their pipes?
Old 21 March 2006, 04:02 PM
  #23  
OllyK
Scooby Regular
 
OllyK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 12,304
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Flatcapdriver
As I said in an earlier thread concerning the toilet, if it's yellow, let it mellow, if it's brown, flush it down...
That's fine if you're happy with your house smelling like a public urinal, personally I find the smell of urine quite pungent. The other alternative it to replace the flush mechanism in the loo, with a dual flush.
Old 21 March 2006, 04:18 PM
  #24  
stevencotton
Scooby Regular
 
stevencotton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: behind twin turbos
Posts: 2,710
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

I've never opened up my toilet, does the brick or two in the cistern trick still work with modern toilets?
Old 21 March 2006, 04:38 PM
  #25  
Flatcapdriver
Scooby Regular
 
Flatcapdriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: www.tiovicente.com
Posts: 2,006
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by OllyK
That's fine if you're happy with your house smelling like a public urinal, personally I find the smell of urine quite pungent. The other alternative it to replace the flush mechanism in the loo, with a dual flush.
I would have thought that anyone with half a brain would have realised that I'm not implying you leave it there all day but clearly I was wrong in using a semi-metaphorical explanation for potential water saving. If your house smells like a public urinal, then I suggest you either start aiming straight or shut the door to the toilet.

Old 21 March 2006, 04:40 PM
  #26  
Wurzel
Scooby Senior
iTrader: (1)
 
Wurzel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Wildberg, Germany/Reading, UK
Posts: 9,706
Likes: 0
Received 73 Likes on 54 Posts
Cool

Originally Posted by DrEvil
One thought - it is all very well say there was less rain in the last 12 months - but what percentage was actually 'caught n stored' reservoirs?

Surely they need more reservoirs built in the south east than they currently have?

Of course, after they plugged the massive 'leaks'...

As for the 'water storage' ideas - thanks, but I ain't got a lot of land , so at best I'm looking at a 500ltr water butt.
What good will digging a new reservoir be if there is no water to fill it???
Old 21 March 2006, 04:44 PM
  #27  
DrEvil
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
DrEvil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Surrey, UK
Posts: 8,384
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Red face

Originally Posted by Flatcapdriver
Dr.Evil, I flew over Bewley the other day and I was amazed at the lack of water in it, so I don't think it's simply a case of building more reservoirs as this is a once a century phenomenom.

Whilst the water companies have to bear up to their share of the problem, as consumers we simply have to hold our hands up and use less water by flushing the toilet less, having showers instead of baths and recyclying water for the garden. As I said in an earlier thread concerning the toilet, if it's yellow, let it mellow, if it's brown, flush it down...
Whilst I agree this may be an 'extreme' - there are other issues here, they've been having problems for a while now, this isn't he first year we've had a hose pipe ban in my area (east Surrey).

Bottom line is they are in no way keeping up with demand in the south east - even taking in to account the reduced rain fall over the last 12-18 months.

You've got to wonder how long the 'Bewley' reservior levels have been dropping - I doubt it has just happened in the last year... ?

In addition - how they water board can tell us we are being wasteful and should take more care, when they are 'loosing' 900 million litres a day?! LOL
Old 21 March 2006, 04:44 PM
  #28  
stevencotton
Scooby Regular
 
stevencotton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: behind twin turbos
Posts: 2,710
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by Wurzel
What good will digging a new reservoir be if there is no water to fill it???
It collects rainwater and stuff so you can still water the garden.

Oh, you were referring to the top part of the post, when I thought it was the
bottom, sorry
Old 21 March 2006, 04:46 PM
  #29  
DrEvil
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
DrEvil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Surrey, UK
Posts: 8,384
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Wurzel
What good will digging a new reservoir be if there is no water to fill it???
Rain doesn't fall in one area - surely two that are 50% full is better than one?..

Anyway .. I give up on this.. I no water reservoir expert, just like Southern Water's staff...
Old 21 March 2006, 04:50 PM
  #30  
OllyK
Scooby Regular
 
OllyK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 12,304
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Flatcapdriver
I would have thought that anyone with half a brain would have realised that I'm not implying you leave it there all day but clearly I was wrong in using a semi-metaphorical explanation for potential water saving.
OK, so how long do you have to leave it? Or how many people have to pee in the same water for it to be OK to flush?

If your house smells like a public urinal, then I suggest you either start aiming straight or shut the door to the toilet.

Mine doesn't, we flush the loo.


Quick Reply: South East England's drought?



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 05:31 PM.