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Old 21 March 2006, 12:52 PM
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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21032006/14...-s-deaths.html

what a sad tale.
Old 21 March 2006, 12:59 PM
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Yeah, saw the cameras setting up as I drove past this morning.

Someone needs to make sure they never have kids again. They didn't have the intelligence to look after them properly.
Old 21 March 2006, 01:00 PM
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Judge Bray told Lindsey Miller: "I am satisfied you encouraged Nathan, aged two, to play with matches as some kind of party trick.

"You continued to allow him access to matches even after you had been warned by neighbours and your mother."

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beggars belief.......
Old 21 March 2006, 01:01 PM
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Very sad,

"The court has heard that the couple both had IQs of just 66"
Unbelievable on how they where allowed to have children in the first place !
Sterialising them would be best thing when they get out jail !

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Old 21 March 2006, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by rsarjantson
Very sad,

"The court has heard that the couple both had IQs of just 66"
Unbelievable on how they where allowed to have children in the first place !
Sterialising them would be best thing when they get out jail !

Richard

they should not be allowd to keep pets let alone have more kids. I think they should be sterilised!
Old 21 March 2006, 02:31 PM
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the should be locked in a room and set alight
Old 21 March 2006, 04:21 PM
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IQ of 66.. So bloody what if they have a score of 66.. Guess it depends if it was timed or not really doesnt it.. therefore it means sod all IMO..

Dont agree with what they did though..
Old 21 March 2006, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ScoobywagonGl
the should be locked in a room and set alight
Personally I think that misses the point altogether (no offence meant btw)

If they are both of a low mental capacity and have children the emphasis of responsibility should fall on the local authorities.

Time after time after time you hear of children dying and it turns out that the parents had issues and although the local authorities knew about it they did nothing.

We have a couple near us who are of a low mental capacity and they have a son who I suspect isn't the full shilling either. The parents were both in care as they were deemed incapable of looking after themselves or their child.

Subsequently they were allowed to live on thier own under supervision and eventually they were allowed their child back - again under supervision.

The parents in this case did an awful thing but quite frankly more should have been done to protect those children.
Old 21 March 2006, 05:59 PM
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Giving a 2 year old matches ffs.,the authorities have a lot to answer for as they knew that these people were totally incapable of looking after children or a pet for that matter.I really think people like this who are badly retarded should be sterilised so they can't have kids. The whole thing from start to finish is just very,very sad!
Old 21 March 2006, 06:12 PM
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and the neighbours and the grandmother knew and tried to tell them

I have had experience at how hard it is for the authorities to get the courts to agree for a child to be removed from the family unit. They do try hard but are restricted and it all takes time to pass through the courts.
Old 21 March 2006, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by rsarjantson
"The court has heard that the couple both had IQs of just 66"
Darwinism in action. Very sad for the kids though, they didn't deserve that.
Old 21 March 2006, 10:20 PM
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IQ of 66,what ever happened to bloody common sense???Poor kids.
Old 21 March 2006, 10:42 PM
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66, perhaps they shouldnt breed, that is so sad.
Old 21 March 2006, 10:57 PM
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Dont worry, lessons will be learnt !!!

if these two numptys had an iq that low, how did they manage to set up house,

clearly they should have been identified as at risk, and appropriate monitoring factored in..

again tragically two children have to die before someone actually notices anything was wrong.


no doubt another reviw will happen, a few psuedo posts created and a new inititive rolled out, to be forgotten and dropped once the spolight moves to the next tragidy

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Old 22 March 2006, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by scrappydoo
IQ of 66.. So bloody what if they have a score of 66.. Guess it depends if it was timed or not really doesnt it.. therefore it means sod all IMO..
WTF?

Anything below an IQ of 75 is regarded as a risk for being able to care for yourself never mind anyone else.

It is very sad and some responsibilty should fall to their family and the local authorities.

It may just seem like a number, but an IQ this low means that they are very unlikely to be able to understand the consequences of locking a two year old in a room with some matches.
Old 22 March 2006, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Rannoch
WTF?

Anything below an IQ of 75 is regarded as a risk for being able to care for yourself never mind anyone else.

It is very sad and some responsibilty should fall to their family and the local authorities.

It may just seem like a number, but an IQ this low means that they are very unlikely to be able to understand the consequences of locking a two year old in a room with some matches.

Thanks for the info.

With that in mind I really do think it would be better to sterilise people with an IQ of less than 75.
Old 26 March 2006, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Rannoch
WTF?

Anything below an IQ of 75 is regarded as a risk for being able to care for yourself never mind anyone else.

It is very sad and some responsibilty should fall to their family and the local authorities.

It may just seem like a number, but an IQ this low means that they are very unlikely to be able to understand the consequences of locking a two year old in a room with some matches.
Anything below 75 is a risk? where the hell did you get that from? lol..never heard of that before.. Didnt realise that IQ tests were a physchological evaluation... Anyway as an example, I know alot of very intelligent people who, under certain time constraints have scored in the high 60's and with abit more time scored well into the 140's later on on seperate tests so its all a load of crap..Obviously..besides these tests can be learned.. Like has been said theres no number subsitute for common sense.. and btw i have scored 142 so nur!!
Old 26 March 2006, 09:07 AM
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Sod the IQ's, let just say they were thick as pig ****, now thats a test that stands the test of time.

Heres the maths

2 year old + matches = disaster



Scrappydo, how long did it take you to get your score up that high, did you just keep pressing the buttons ?
Old 26 March 2006, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
Sod the IQ's, let just say they were thick as pig ****, now thats a test that stands the test of time.

Heres the maths

2 year old + matches = disaster
quite, they taught a two year old tricks with matches ffs, i suppose reading, and writing and maths etc was too advanced for the parents so thats the best they could do.
Old 26 March 2006, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
Scrappydo, how long did it take you to get your score up that high, did you just keep pressing the buttons ?
Yeh mate the right ones lol
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