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Old 15 March 2006, 02:19 PM
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Per year ??

What could you achieve to earn of £4 million

I reckon you could get £100k a year without too much bother

Wadya reckon ??
Old 15 March 2006, 02:22 PM
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In an average savings account at 4.5% you'd get £180,000
Old 15 March 2006, 02:22 PM
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Like to think you could get more than that - plenty of accounts offering in excess of 5% - that's £200K straight off.
Old 15 March 2006, 02:23 PM
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"Interest on 4 million"......yes i'm interested...
Old 15 March 2006, 02:24 PM
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You could buy an entire ex-council estate in glasgow for that and then rent it back to the council at £400 a house
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Would there not be a limit on this though or could you put in as much as you'd like ??
Would you get taxed on this ??
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Originally Posted by lightning101
You could buy an entire ex-council estate in glasgow for that and then rent it back to the council at £400 a house

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Old 15 March 2006, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by sti-04!!
Would there not be a limit on this though or could you put in as much as you'd like ??
Would you get taxed on this ??
no, yes, yes
Old 15 March 2006, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiggs
yes
How much ??
Old 15 March 2006, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by sti-04!!
How much ??
I'm guessing your going to make it in to the top tax bracket earning £200K per year
Old 15 March 2006, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
I'm guessing your going to make it in to the top tax bracket earning £200K per year
It was just a question
Old 15 March 2006, 02:35 PM
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£200,000 with tax allowance of £4745 a year

£195,255.00 taxable

£72,207.60 tax

£4,651.48 nat ins

£123,140.92 net
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Possibly another stupid question

Is there any ways around this ??
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Originally Posted by lightning101
£200,000 with tax allowance of £4745 a year

£195,255.00 taxable

£72,207.60 tax

£4,651.48 nat ins

£123,140.92 net
Do you pay national insurance on interest? I thought it was only on earnings
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Originally Posted by sti-04!!
Possibly another stupid question

Is there any ways around this ??
Off shore accounts
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Originally Posted by sti-04!!
It was just a question
If you've got £4 million sloshing about, get an IFA and I'm sure they'll turn round better than 5% for you and work out the best way to pay the minimum amount of tax to boot.
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give it to me...
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Originally Posted by SteveScooby
Off shore accounts
But you need to move off shore with the money!
Old 15 March 2006, 02:40 PM
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Yeah, surely you won't need to pay national insurance on it?!?

Still, that amount of tax will keep a couple of chav breeders in a nice house
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for a while....
Old 15 March 2006, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
If you've got £4 million sloshing about, get an IFA and I'm sure they'll turn round better than 5% for you and work out the best way to pay the minimum amount of tax to boot.
I dont, i am just being nosey.
Old 15 March 2006, 02:45 PM
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So if you were unemployed and not claiming benefits you would not be entitled to these, assuming you lost the 4 million

Contribution based Jobseeker's Allowance (Class 1 NICs only)
Incapacity Benefit (if you can't work for long periods due to illness or injury)
State Pension
additional State Pension (Class 1 NICs only)
Widowed Parents' Allowance
Bereavement Allowance
Bereavement Payment
Old 15 March 2006, 03:15 PM
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as a high net worth individual, you could easily invest in CDOs, and Index CDSs.

you'd be returning 10%+ then
Old 15 March 2006, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ChefDude
as a high net worth individual, you could easily invest in CDOs, and Index CDSs.

you'd be returning 10%+ then
What are those ??
Old 15 March 2006, 04:02 PM
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CDO - collatoralised debt object
CDS - (Index) Credit Default SWAP (if using tranches)

basically credit derivatives. used to trade off the back of bonds.

i'm in a small team authoring this stuff on the buy side.
Old 15 March 2006, 04:07 PM
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Thanks, as i said just being nosey.
Old 15 March 2006, 06:28 PM
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i always wonder what sort of 'income' you'd get with a decent lottery win, always nice to dream!

4k a week with no debts or mortgage would do nicely
Old 15 March 2006, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Scooby Snacks 23
Like to think you could get more than that - plenty of accounts offering in excess of 5% - that's £200K straight off.
Care to point out the plenty of accounts that offer in excess of 5%, especially allowing for the fact that anything over ~£40k will be taxed at higher rate . . . .
Old 15 March 2006, 09:31 PM
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You should achieve 10% a year flat with a decent IFA I would think
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The real trick would be avoiding the temptation to spend the capital rather than the interest- once you start buying cars, boats, houses etc then it wouldn't last long.


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