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Old 07 March 2006, 02:12 PM
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Default Are there no penalties to deter criminals anymore?

Does not really matter what the crime is there doesn't seem to be anything sufficient to put someone off a life of crime.

You never pay fines,you only get a few years for murder and the system does its utmost to avoid any sort of jail sentence.

Really starting to grate now
Old 07 March 2006, 02:17 PM
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Successive governments have been de-criminalising "real crime" while criminalising ordinary people.

Because they know that ordinary people will pay the fines etc.
Old 07 March 2006, 02:52 PM
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Police dont want to waste time with those petty murders etc, there's motorists a plenty to persecute.
Old 07 March 2006, 03:02 PM
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Misses had her 06 plate keyed outside the house 2 days after she got it. Rang the Police for a crime number in case we decide to go through the insurance. Misses asked what would happen next, the reply "Nothing, it would just be left as an unsolved case".
Old 07 March 2006, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
"Nothing, it would just be left as an unsolved case".
Well at least he wasn't lying to her
Old 07 March 2006, 04:38 PM
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Exactly - what did you expect the police to do? There simply won't be any evidence, so sending a SOCO over to tell her that there is no evidence is a waste of their time and her's.


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Old 07 March 2006, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
Well at least he wasn't lying to her
Small comfort
Old 07 March 2006, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by _Meridian_
Exactly - what did you expect the police to do? There simply won't be any evidence, so sending a SOCO over to tell her that there is no evidence is a waste of their time and her's.

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And the ******* know that, they know there are no bobbys walking the beat and so there is naff all chance of them being caught.
Old 07 March 2006, 04:42 PM
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Motorists are an easy target and pay fines because they must have money to run a car in the first place.

If you aren't a law abiding citizen, you won't bother taxing/insuring your car and if you're really clever, you'll have it registered at a fake address too so they can't find you for fining purposes.
Old 07 March 2006, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by _Meridian_
Exactly - what did you expect the police to do? There simply won't be any evidence, so sending a SOCO over to tell her that there is no evidence is a waste of their time and her's.


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Sorry, what planet are you on....

mind you saying that, when there is evidence (a clear hand print) and it was reported to the bib, there reply was, we cant send someone were to busy, it will wash off!!!!!


Mart
Old 07 March 2006, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mart360
Sorry, what planet are you on....

mind you saying that, when there is evidence (a clear hand print) and it was reported to the bib, there reply was, we cant send someone were to busy, it will wash off!!!!!


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It does seem to be the default from the Police, that there will be no evidence. Last week a mate had some **** smash his mirror and cave in 2 panels when said **** coming the other way wandered over on to his side of the road. Mr **** doesn't stop. Reported it to the police and told them he had the guy's wing mirror. "What do you want us to do?" was the reply. He asked if they were going to come and get the mirror and try and track the guy down. He also asked if the other guy had reported it, response was "He's probably pissed and so will leave it till tomorrow, if he calls at all". Mate goes round some dealerships and finds out the make and model of car the wing mirror belongs to. A week later he is parked up near the scene of the accident keeping an eye out and sure enough, past goes a white Corsa missing a wing mirror. Mate follows the guy to his house and rings plod. Plod says "yeah, we'll send a car over". 1 hour later mate rings back to be told that they were too busy to send a car and they wouldn't be sending one either. Mate does all the bloody leg work and plod can't even be arsed to go and pick the guy up.
Old 07 March 2006, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
It does seem to be the default from the Police, that there will be no evidence. Last week a mate had some **** smash his mirror and cave in 2 panels when said **** coming the other way wandered over on to his side of the road. Mr **** doesn't stop. Reported it to the police and told them he had the guy's wing mirror. "What do you want us to do?" was the reply. He asked if they were going to come and get the mirror and try and track the guy down. He also asked if the other guy had reported it, response was "He's probably pissed and so will leave it till tomorrow, if he calls at all". Mate goes round some dealerships and finds out the make and model of car the wing mirror belongs to. A week later he is parked up near the scene of the accident keeping an eye out and sure enough, past goes a white Corsa missing a wing mirror. Mate follows the guy to his house and rings plod. Plod says "yeah, we'll send a car over". 1 hour later mate rings back to be told that they were too busy to send a car and they wouldn't be sending one either. Mate does all the bloody leg work and plod can't even be arsed to go and pick the guy up.
You'd better hope the Pigs don't sue your mate for illegally following him to his house ! Maybe you should edit your post so they can't track him down !
Old 07 March 2006, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jasey
You'd better hope the Pigs don't sue your mate for illegally following him to his house ! Maybe you should edit your post so they can't track him down !
I doubt there is sufficient detail for them to track him from that - besides there isn't much point as you have quoted what I wrote and the Police already know as he rang them to tell them.
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Originally Posted by OllyK
Misses had her 06 plate keyed outside the house 2 days after she got it. Rang the Police for a crime number in case we decide to go through the insurance. Misses asked what would happen next, the reply "Nothing, it would just be left as an unsolved case".
Well that crime is pretty much unsolveable. I wouldnt even had bothered ringing the rozzers in the first place.
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Originally Posted by mart360
Sorry, what planet are you on....

mind you saying that, when there is evidence (a clear hand print) and it was reported to the bib, there reply was, we cant send someone were to busy, it will wash off!!!!!


Mart

I'm on the Planet Real: the one where the police have a limited budget and manpower which doesn't even cover murders properly, never mind the thousands of acts of criminal damage where the villain simply won't get caught. If plod is round your house checking out where the vandals kicked in a fence panel (say) then they aren't detecting any crime which is actually detectable.

That said, I was rather surprised a couple of years ago when you Cambs feds turned up to view where my garage door frame had been smashed off the wall. But they couldn't do anything, so it was waste of both of our times.


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Old 08 March 2006, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
It does seem to be the default from the Police, that there will be no evidence. Last week a mate had some **** smash his mirror and cave in 2 panels when said **** coming the other way wandered over on to his side of the road. Mr **** doesn't stop. Reported it to the police and told them he had the guy's wing mirror. "What do you want us to do?" was the reply. He asked if they were going to come and get the mirror and try and track the guy down. He also asked if the other guy had reported it, response was "He's probably pissed and so will leave it till tomorrow, if he calls at all". Mate goes round some dealerships and finds out the make and model of car the wing mirror belongs to. A week later he is parked up near the scene of the accident keeping an eye out and sure enough, past goes a white Corsa missing a wing mirror. Mate follows the guy to his house and rings plod. Plod says "yeah, we'll send a car over". 1 hour later mate rings back to be told that they were too busy to send a car and they wouldn't be sending one either. Mate does all the bloody leg work and plod can't even be arsed to go and pick the guy up.
Some years a go some **** in a white clio crashed into my scoob outside my mates house in lower earley leaving a white stripe down the side of my car and also his door trim on the ground next to the car.

me and my mate walked down the road and founf a white clio parked behind some bushes away from a house with a blue strip down the side and no body trim. We went to the ploice station and handed over the trim to the cute girl on the desk and told her what happened and where they could find the car that did the damage.

We left and went home, shortly after getting home we saw a panda car pass the house. then an hour later the cop knocked on the front door telling us that the ****** had admitted crashing into my car. At the time the my cop went to see the ****** there was already another cop from another station there interviewing the ****** about a different offence.

So if you are going to have your car dammaged make sure it is in lower earley as the cops there do actually follow up on public reports.

I made a full claim on the ******* insurance but it to them 18 months to finally cough up.
Old 08 March 2006, 10:49 AM
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We have to face up to the fact that the PC Dictators now say that criminals only rob and kill people because of their background and upbringng. Even if they do know that they are doing wrong and breaking the law.

Its all really the fault of the victims just for being there and getting in their way!

What a way to run a railway!

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