Notices
Non Scooby Related Anything Non-Scooby related

How good really is walking as an exercise ?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06 January 2006, 03:46 PM
  #1  
RoShamBo
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
RoShamBo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Posts: 2,597
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default How good really is walking as an exercise ?

Just got a dog, so spare time to exercise is at a premium as he needs 2 good walks a day. But then got thinking that walking is supposed to be one of the best forms of exercise around & I would think I walk about 2 miles a day now.

Is it any good? They say its as good as running but safer (lower impact etc)
Any thoughts, my thinking is just go to the gym for the weights & use walking the dog as my aerobic exercise.

R.
Old 06 January 2006, 03:48 PM
  #2  
lightning101
Scooby Regular
 
lightning101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Never do names esp. Joey, spaz or Mong
Posts: 39,688
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

To burn fat you really need to get your heart pumping at a certain rate.
Old 06 January 2006, 03:49 PM
  #3  
scoobyboy1
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (16)
 
scoobyboy1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Willenhall, West Midlands
Posts: 7,616
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by RoShamBo
They say its as good as running but safer (lower impact etc)
Any thoughts, my thinking is just go to the gym for the weights & use walking the dog as my aerobic exercise.

R.
Running on the roads and other really hard surfaces can cause shin splints, And I can tell you now, they hurt a lot.

Walking the dog is a brilliant way of keeping yourself fit, shame they dont give dogs away on the NHS, for these bed ridden fatties.

Last edited by scoobyboy1; 06 January 2006 at 03:51 PM.
Old 06 January 2006, 03:49 PM
  #4  
hectic
Scooby Regular
 
hectic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: *R.I.P Heccers.. its been a blast!
Posts: 19,965
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by scoobyboy1
Running on the roads and other eally har serfaces can cause
?????
Old 06 January 2006, 03:53 PM
  #5  
Crazy Chick
Scooby Regular
 
Crazy Chick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: At home
Posts: 8,486
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Old 06 January 2006, 04:18 PM
  #6  
SiPie
Scooby Regular
 
SiPie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Scotland
Posts: 7,249
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I walk 4 miles a day round trip to and from work Monday to Friday regardless of weather and feel zero benefit compared to when I play an hour game of squash or go mountain biking......it's no doubt better than sitting on your **** all day but personally I think the benefit is minimal
Old 06 January 2006, 04:22 PM
  #7  
hoskib
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
hoskib's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: gravesend, kent
Posts: 4,721
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

agreed that you'll need to do more if you want to see any major improvement, but any exercise is better than none!

alternatively buy a greyhound and try to chase the ******!
Old 06 January 2006, 04:23 PM
  #8  
Scooby.Newbie
Scooby Regular
 
Scooby.Newbie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Are we there yet?
Posts: 893
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

It all depends on where you are starting from, you may well not feel the benefit directly if you both mountain bike and play squash, but for someone easing back into excercise is it a great way to start, walking is good for you and the dog will love you for it.
Old 06 January 2006, 04:24 PM
  #9  
stilover
Scooby Regular
 
stilover's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Here, There, Everywhere
Posts: 10,619
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Walk, don't run. As above running on hard surfaces causes Shin Splints, which I get all the time. Again as above, they hurt, alot.
Walk the dog, but up your pace. Don't speed walk as that just looks wrong, but walk faster than normal, just to make your body work. Also throw plenty of sticks for the dog. All this burns callories.

What I do is make my dog sit till I'm quite a distance from him, throw the stick away from him as hard as I can, then proceed to run away, only stopping once he's got the stick then caught me up. Great exercise.
Old 06 January 2006, 04:28 PM
  #10  
scoobyboy1
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (16)
 
scoobyboy1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Willenhall, West Midlands
Posts: 7,616
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by hectic
?????
Pressed something before I had finished my post, ive re-done it now anyway, I wondered if anyone saw it, guess I was to slow with the edit.

Bloody Computers
Old 06 January 2006, 04:52 PM
  #11  
RichWalk
Scooby Regular
 
RichWalk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: "Comfortably Numb" since Aug 2003
Posts: 17,450
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

after swiming, walking is the best moderate excerise you can do, as it w*rks more muscles at tolerable rates.
Old 06 January 2006, 05:16 PM
  #12  
Gear Head
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
Gear Head's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Somewhere in Kent, sniffing some V-Power
Posts: 15,029
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I'm 23 and have been into running for 10 years. I run at approx 7.5mph/12kph. I run between 2.5 and 5 miles which is between 25 and 40 minutes, 4-5 times a week. In all that time, I only ever had shin splints once, when I ran 3 miles for the first time in school plimsols!
Buy a pair of high quality running shoes (£80+) and you won't have any problems!
As for walking being good exercise, the correct answer is.... it depends!
It depends on whether you walk or exercise regulally, how much exercise you do, what sort or exercise you do ( anaerobic or aerobic ) etc etc.
Your body will become accustomed to any form of physical exertion relativley quickly. So if you walk 2 miles to work everyday, very quickly the body will aclimatise to that activity. Its better than nothing but you won't lose weight or tone up.

If you don't do any exercise, (and I mean actually getting sweaty!) then buy yourself a pulse monitor watch. Then try and exert yourself either by jogging or fast walking and aim to keep your heart rate at 120bpm -150bpm for 20 -30 minutes, if you want to see and feel results. Thats the fat burning range.

A healthy adult should have a resting heart rate of 65-70 bpm. Light walking should be around 100bpm. A light jog will up that rate to around 120 bpm.

Also, make sure you vary the intensity at which you exercise. For example, if i'm on a treadmill, a may warm up at 9kph for 5mins, then run at 12kph for 10mins, then alternate between 14kph and 10kph every minute for 10minutes.

Trick is to always keep the body guessing!

Remember though, always start any exercise programme slowly, always warm up and stretch everytime before and after, drink lots and lots and lots of water (atleast 8-10pints a day) and that you don't have to sprint like an olympic athlete to see a benifit!

Last edited by Gear Head; 06 January 2006 at 05:47 PM.
Old 06 January 2006, 05:31 PM
  #13  
G-STAR
Scooby Regular
 
G-STAR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Parts Unknown (even to me!)
Posts: 1,964
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
I'm 23 and have been into running for 10 years. I run at approx 7.5mph/12kph. I run between 2.5 and 5 miles each time, so between 25 and 40 minutes. In all that time, I only ever had shin splints once, when I ran 3 miles for the first time in school plimsols!
Buy a pair of high quality running shoes (£80+) and you won't have any
I was just about to mention the above.

I ran 5/6 miles at least five times a week during summer (well, break from university - so from June to September), and didn't encounter any problems.
Old 06 January 2006, 05:58 PM
  #14  
2000TLondon
Scooby Regular
 
2000TLondon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Texas - It's BIG!
Posts: 2,105
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Jockeys walk miles and miles (literally ten or more)a day to keep their weight down.

Not exactly sure about details, but told heart rate at a steady higher rate for longer is better than very high heart rate for shorter like jogging.

On the gym machines fat burning programmes are always lower heart rate than cardio programmes, I think!
Old 06 January 2006, 06:01 PM
  #15  
Drunken Bungle Whore
Scooby Regular
 
Drunken Bungle Whore's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: The land of Daisies and Bubbles!
Posts: 5,560
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Buy a pair of high quality running shoes (£80+) and you won't have any problems!
From my running days I'd say that you can pay well over £100 for traners and still get shin splints if you buy the wrong ones - it's not the cost of the shoe it's whether or not it suits your foot and running style. I was lucky, I really suited a model of Asic which cost around £50 a pair.

I eventually had to stop running due to a (previously undiagnosed) congenital back condition. I try and walk as much as I can now - as long as you get your pulse rate up for about 30 mins at a time then that's fine. Of course you won't win any marathons - but if all you want to do is achieve a basic healthly level of fitness then you'll be fine.

What sort of dog is it?
Old 06 January 2006, 06:46 PM
  #16  
HankScorpio
Scooby Regular
 
HankScorpio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 5,848
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

There's always a queue of people on here telling you that the only way to lose weight is strictly in the calories in being less than the calories out.

It takes the roughly the same number of calories to walk for two miles as it does to run it. Takes longer obviously but pretty much the same energy is expended.

To burn fat you really need to get your heart pumping at a certain rate.
[corrected] Yes, but according to this bloke:

When you run a mile, you're burning mostly sugar, or carbohydrates, which is how your body gives you fast energy in bursts. When you walk a mile, it gives your metabolism time to switch from burning carbohydrates to burning fat.

http://www.webmd.com/content/pages/1/3079_883

Last edited by HankScorpio; 06 January 2006 at 06:51 PM.
Old 06 January 2006, 08:00 PM
  #17  
JamieMacdonald
Scooby Regular
 
JamieMacdonald's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Bish,Bash,Bosham!
Posts: 2,204
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Have you ever seen a fat runner?

Have you ever seen a fat walker/rambler?

The chubbies need to stop eating, get off they asses and work up a sweat, walking ain't going to help them. Of course if they're happy being bloaters then that's fine with me!

I rest my case.
Old 06 January 2006, 08:08 PM
  #18  
Gear Head
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
Gear Head's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Somewhere in Kent, sniffing some V-Power
Posts: 15,029
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I'm sorry hank, but it IS a case of calories consumed/burnt off. Also, you have to exercise with your heart rate between 120-150bpm for 20-30minutes before you actually start using your fat stores. Before that point, you are only burning carbs.
Old 06 January 2006, 08:28 PM
  #19  
ScoobyDont
Scooby Regular
 
ScoobyDont's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

It only uses your right arm for about 5 minutes... Oh you said walking... sorry mate.
Old 06 January 2006, 10:17 PM
  #20  
Tiggs
Scooby Regular
 
Tiggs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 9,307
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
I'm sorry hank, but it IS a case of calories consumed/burnt off. Also, you have to exercise with your heart rate between 120-150bpm for 20-30minutes before you actually start using your fat stores. Before that point, you are only burning carbs.

far more complex than that though, training zones were invented to make people think they could do sod all and loose weight.

if i work out at 45mins at 150bpm every other day i WILL loose more weight than if i did it at 110bpm.

the only reason i would go at 110 is if i couldnt manage 150!

carbs/fat/whatever - its all fueld by callories.
Old 06 January 2006, 10:37 PM
  #21  
Gear Head
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
Gear Head's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Somewhere in Kent, sniffing some V-Power
Posts: 15,029
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Yes but if you start complicating exercise, people just turn away (I used to be a gym instructor whilst at uni). Its far more effective to give people training zones as a guide and then adjust them to the individual.
Old 06 January 2006, 10:45 PM
  #22  
HankScorpio
Scooby Regular
 
HankScorpio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 5,848
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
I'm sorry hank, but it IS a case of calories consumed/burnt off. Also, you have to exercise with your heart rate between 120-150bpm for 20-30minutes before you actually start using your fat stores. Before that point, you are only burning carbs.
I didn't say different to the calories thing
A pound of fat equals about 3500 calories. To lose 1 pound a week you will need to expend 3500 more calories than you eat that week, whether through increased activity or decreased eating or both.

I will disagree with the heart rate statment tho, putting a number on it is dangerous, it's best at 50-70% of your maximum heart rate (number varies depending on who you ask) which is determined by a couple of factors.
Basic calculation for max is 220 - (Age) but you can add in resting heart rate to the mix as well. Google "target heart rate calculator" and you'll get quite a few.

Getting your heart rate up on it's own doesn't lose weight, it can go up for a number of reasons (adrenalin for one, who's had a near miss or lost the back end and found their heart going mental?), it's just a guideline for the work done by the body.

Doing a workout that sustains you at 110bpm, your body is doing a certain amount of work, work is energy, energy can be measured in calories.
Doing the same duration at 150bpm you are obviously doing more work (energy, calories) so you will lose more, I agree.

(Also, depending on the workout done, there may also be some muscle build up but that just complicates matters further!!)


So on the original question, agreeing with the calories in, calories out statement, walking (at a decent pace, hitting target HR) is a good exercise as long as you're not picking up pie and chips on the way home!
Old 06 January 2006, 11:11 PM
  #23  
Brendan Hughes
Scooby Regular
 
Brendan Hughes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: same time, different place
Posts: 11,313
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

"drink lots and lots and lots of water (atleast 8-10pints a day)"

Bloody hell, that would get me walking miles all right, to the loo and back.
Old 07 January 2006, 10:45 AM
  #24  
Gear Head
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
Gear Head's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Somewhere in Kent, sniffing some V-Power
Posts: 15,029
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Think of it as your bodys fuel+lubricant. If you don't drink enough, i.e atleast 4 pints a day, you are not doing your kidneys any good at all. Plus, concentration levels slip, tiredness sets in, you are easily irritated..... the list is endless!
Old 07 January 2006, 10:55 AM
  #25  
davyboy
Scooby Regular
 
davyboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Some country and western
Posts: 13,488
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thats a stupid amount of water, I though it was 2 litres?
Old 07 January 2006, 10:56 AM
  #26  
Little Miss WRX
Moderator
 
Little Miss WRX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 19,910
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Having suffered from lower limb injuries varying from shin splints, ligament tears, knee injuries etcetc, I strongly recommend you do the following:

See a decent outlet to buy a pair of runners where they can assess your gait.

Finally after years of problems, I saw a podiatrist and he quickly evaluated that my left leg is a tiny bit shorter than my left and I have flat feet - but not the same on both feet. So the correction on my left foot is different to my right.
I now have orthotics fitted into some very decent (and expensive ) running shoes. However, I now no longer face weekly physio, save money and am able to run for much longer.

A simple calculation to work out what "range" your heart rate should be in to start burning fat is 220 minus your age multiplied by 70%. It is a guideline not a definitive rule.

When I train I try to maintain a rate of 130-140 and when my asthma permits I am able to train for sufficient periods of time and have a good level of fitness.
Old 07 January 2006, 12:37 PM
  #27  
Brendan Hughes
Scooby Regular
 
Brendan Hughes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: same time, different place
Posts: 11,313
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
Think of it as your bodys fuel+lubricant. If you don't drink enough, i.e atleast 4 pints a day, you are not doing your kidneys any good at all. Plus, concentration levels slip, tiredness sets in, you are easily irritated..... the list is endless!
Sory, but that sounds like horse****. I've never drunk 4 pints of water a day, I'm 37 years old and have a black belt, ran cross country at county level, etc. I do f-all exercise at the moment but am probably still fitter than most people 10 years younger. According to your calculations I should have had a kidney replaced 10 years ago.

People die from over-hydration, look at Leah Betts (it wasn't the E that killed her). I think the figure is maybe a pint of liquid a day minimum, with a recommendation of 2-4 pints of water. Of course, if you're doing Olympic training in Borneo you'll need more. But an average of 10 pints a day - no way.
Old 07 January 2006, 01:51 PM
  #28  
suprabeast
Scooby Regular
 
suprabeast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Fairy Tokens = 9
Posts: 1,951
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

who said 10 pints a day tho??

how can you drink a pint of liquid with 2-4 pints of water? aint that the same thing?
Old 07 January 2006, 01:58 PM
  #29  
_RIP_
BANNED
 
_RIP_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,675
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

He said a pint of liquid (water) minimum with 3 - 4 pints of water (liquid) as being recommended.
Old 07 January 2006, 01:58 PM
  #30  
Brendan Hughes
Scooby Regular
 
Brendan Hughes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: same time, different place
Posts: 11,313
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Bottom of post #12. And I think you should drink liquid but water is by far the best for your body.


Quick Reply: How good really is walking as an exercise ?



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:50 AM.