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Old 14 November 2005, 08:02 PM
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Exclamation Super Unleaded - Does it actually DO anything?

I think it does ..... but,

Fifth Gear on Ch.5 NOW will tell you!!

Turn on NOW!!!

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Old 14 November 2005, 08:14 PM
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Scooby being tested too!!

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Old 14 November 2005, 08:18 PM
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A 10% increase in power with Optimax!!

Holy Crap!!

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Old 14 November 2005, 08:18 PM
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forget what fuels best, the STI has just put out 260 something bhp, thought the latest facelift sti was 280 out the box?
Old 14 November 2005, 08:19 PM
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So Tesco 99 is probably better than Optimax, assuming that the power/torque figures are a function of RON, shame they didn't test it!
Old 14 November 2005, 08:20 PM
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Optimax is designed for turbocharged cars, i doubt the same gains will be seen in n/a cars.
Old 14 November 2005, 08:20 PM
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blow that - vikkis lookin good tonite....

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Old 14 November 2005, 08:21 PM
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Yea, but 5th Gear is unwatchable.

Back on topic - SUL certainly pepps my trials bike up! But then it is a two stroke.
Old 14 November 2005, 08:23 PM
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Its down to cars itself...not the fuel It only works on cars with active ignition control via a knock sensor. (assuming UK market cars...non of this dodgy Jap import rubbish )

No knock sensor or mapping for higher than manufacturers recommended octane = no difference.


Makes a huge difference on an old Jag XJS...but then the ignition is setup to run on 98 4 star ...95Ron makes it pink like crazy

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Old 14 November 2005, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Its down to cars itself...not the fuel It only works on cars with active ignition control via a knock sensor.
And the Subaru has this as standard ................

Like I have said before ... makes CockLinks, well ... only suitable for *****!!

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Old 14 November 2005, 08:46 PM
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I use Optimax anything lower makes the car go into safe mode and losses about 50bhp
Old 14 November 2005, 08:55 PM
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Tesco 99 or Optimax goes in my Leon Cupra R all the time. Dealer put 95 in it once and it ran like poo. But mine has been remapped for it though....

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Old 14 November 2005, 10:02 PM
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Definate improvement on Super, but didn't the old shape have an ecu less capable? I remember threads popping up one here more than a Subaru in a Lake "how do I reset my ECU??" One of the advantages of moving to the Bugeye I thought.
Old 15 November 2005, 06:56 AM
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Using Shell V-Power 100 RON definitely makes an improvement to my Sti07...goes like a little rocket
Old 15 November 2005, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by dpb
blow that - vikkis lookin good tonite....
agreed

think she has "blonded" up her hair a bit

i would

missed the petrol part and watched it from half way in
Old 15 November 2005, 08:53 AM
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Always used to use Super from Sainsbury's in my Mini, found it went better than optimax.
Old 15 November 2005, 08:53 AM
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The lower RON fuels will caused the ECU to retard the ignition so you lose the design performance. The danger with a turbocharged car is that low Ron fuels may also cause detonation which is an engine killer! Like No 3 big end failure!

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Old 15 November 2005, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by dpb
blow that - vikkis lookin good tonite....
Yeah, good for a gap-toothed troll with shot-putter's shoulders.

Old 15 November 2005, 09:08 AM
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For all your needs http://www.vb-h.net/ or scaring little children.



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Originally Posted by JackClark
Definate improvement on Super, but didn't the old shape have an ecu less capable? I remember threads popping up one here more than a Subaru in a Lake "how do I reset my ECU??" One of the advantages of moving to the Bugeye I thought.
Basically, the older pre-98 ECUs when reset start off as stock mapping, which gets tweeked the more the car is driven by the various sensors, creating an averaged map.

The more the car is driven, the more averaged (and in essence, more accurate and safe) the mapping gets. This is how it masks various sensor (partial) failures, because the map is so averaged out, sensor variations no longer create any significant change, the same goes for fuel variations but to a much lesser extent. I belive it is/was part of a main dealer schedule to reset the ECU every main service - that is if they ever bothered. (but might explain the big bang after a service theory too ).
Old 15 November 2005, 09:53 AM
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I run Optimax in my car as it's a better quality fuel. Not for pub talk stats and figures.

My car is a non turbo.

if I had a normally aspirated BMW 540i sport or something like that I'd use Optimax (or super) as well.

Do you use decent oil?? Use decent petrol then.
Old 15 November 2005, 10:15 AM
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So we've learned that cars with ECU's that can take advantage of higher octane fuels actually do .... where's everyone been for the past 6 years?

Subaru has always recommended running the turbo cars on 98 RON because they perform better.
Old 15 November 2005, 10:20 AM
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I wonder how many neds will now be using optimax in their souped up shopping trolley that was setup for 90RON fuel
Old 15 November 2005, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by hoskib
forget what fuels best, the STI has just put out 260 something bhp, thought the latest facelift sti was 280 out the box?
Thors Dynapack is a hub based dyno so the figures you get are at the hub, not at the fly or wheels
Old 15 November 2005, 12:22 PM
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The easiest way to reset the earlier ECU's was to disconnect the battery for about 10 minutes.

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Old 15 November 2005, 12:30 PM
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Course its better. the higher the octane rating the better the fuel will burn resulting in a smoother engine
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Originally Posted by davegtt
Course its better. the higher the octane rating the better the fuel will burn resulting in a smoother engine
Wrong!
Old 15 November 2005, 12:42 PM
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Old 15 November 2005, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyJawa
Thors Dynapack is a hub based dyno so the figures you get are at the hub, not at the fly or wheels
But they still try to correct for transmission losses
Old 15 November 2005, 04:12 PM
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The figs they give you on the printout are hubs figures - so thats probably what they used for their on screen figs


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