Gordon Browns missing millions - 8pm ch4 Dispatches tonight
07 November 2005, 06:35 PM
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Gordon Browns missing millions - 8pm ch4 Dispatches tonight
Looking forward to this one!
Detail from the ch4 website on this docco
"Gordon Brown is the Prime Minister-in-waiting, heir apparent to Tony Blair. It's a claim founded on the reputation for 'prudence' he's enjoyed as Chancellor. He has been portrayed as an astute and masterly manager of our economy. But there is another side to Brown's economics which reveals a record of costly errors.
Economist Andrew Dilnot looks at where Gordon Brown policies have gone wrong &endash and the consequences for all of us.
Dilnot was centrally involved in the debate about UK economic policy in the early 1990s. By the time Labour were swept into power on a landslide election victory in 1997, Dilnot could already see serious flaws and regarded himself as 'the last sceptic in Britain'.
In the last eight years, Dilnot has seen much of his scepticism proved right, as Brown has steered the British economy from a budget surplus of nearly £20 billion into a budget deficit of over £30 billion. This £50 billion negative swing in our economic fortunes represents a cost of around £1,000 per year for every adult in Britain. And there's worse to come.
Dilnot embarks on a personal journey to uncover the expensive mistakes in Brown's economic policy which have led to failure to transform the health, education and transport systems, inequality going up not down, financial waste and the breaking of Brown's own famous 'Rules'. The consequences of Brown's misjudgements, Dilnot warns, are something we will all ultimately have to pay for."
Detail from the ch4 website on this docco
"Gordon Brown is the Prime Minister-in-waiting, heir apparent to Tony Blair. It's a claim founded on the reputation for 'prudence' he's enjoyed as Chancellor. He has been portrayed as an astute and masterly manager of our economy. But there is another side to Brown's economics which reveals a record of costly errors.
Economist Andrew Dilnot looks at where Gordon Brown policies have gone wrong &endash and the consequences for all of us.
Dilnot was centrally involved in the debate about UK economic policy in the early 1990s. By the time Labour were swept into power on a landslide election victory in 1997, Dilnot could already see serious flaws and regarded himself as 'the last sceptic in Britain'.
In the last eight years, Dilnot has seen much of his scepticism proved right, as Brown has steered the British economy from a budget surplus of nearly £20 billion into a budget deficit of over £30 billion. This £50 billion negative swing in our economic fortunes represents a cost of around £1,000 per year for every adult in Britain. And there's worse to come.
Dilnot embarks on a personal journey to uncover the expensive mistakes in Brown's economic policy which have led to failure to transform the health, education and transport systems, inequality going up not down, financial waste and the breaking of Brown's own famous 'Rules'. The consequences of Brown's misjudgements, Dilnot warns, are something we will all ultimately have to pay for."
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07 November 2005, 07:06 PM
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The deficit and pensions are two areas where he has ballsed things up beyond belief which is why I don't think he'll make it as the next PM. Now I need to work out how to rest control of the remote from HI.
07 November 2005, 07:13 PM
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Recent figures released by the Department for Trade and Industry (DTI) have revealed that the number of people declared insolvent in England and Wales in the third quarter of 2005 has reached a record high .....................
............... if businessmen are cocking it all up - no wonder the tax receipts are down!!
It's about time people learned how to stay solvent and pay the taxes needed to fund the schools and hospitals!!
Hardly the chancellors fault!!!
Pete
............... if businessmen are cocking it all up - no wonder the tax receipts are down!!
It's about time people learned how to stay solvent and pay the taxes needed to fund the schools and hospitals!!
Hardly the chancellors fault!!!
Pete
07 November 2005, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
So? they are not actually MISSING then are they??
If some clever **** reporter, repeat reporter!! can tell us where they have gone!!
Pete
If some clever **** reporter, repeat reporter!! can tell us where they have gone!!
Pete
However, I doubt you run your personal finances in the way our Chancellor runs those of this country.
I might be wrong of course, do you sell Lewis Bonds?
07 November 2005, 07:18 PM
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About time the great unwashed were told the truth, instead of the claptrap peddled by such as lewis.
Shame it's not on ITV1 - 2 and 3 where the real-thicky New Labour voters are to be found.
Shame it's not on ITV1 - 2 and 3 where the real-thicky New Labour voters are to be found.
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07 November 2005, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Recent figures released by the Department for Trade and Industry (DTI) have revealed that the number of people declared insolvent in England and Wales in the third quarter of 2005 has reached a record high .....................
............... if businessmen are cocking it all up - no wonder the tax receipts are down!!
It's about time people learned how to stay solvent and pay the taxes needed to fund the schools and hospitals!!
Hardly the chancellors fault!!!
Pete
............... if businessmen are cocking it all up - no wonder the tax receipts are down!!
It's about time people learned how to stay solvent and pay the taxes needed to fund the schools and hospitals!!
Hardly the chancellors fault!!!
Pete
Yes, much blame can be laid at the feet of this Chancellor, for he has been quite happy to oversee a credit bubble for, up to now, it has fed his tax coffers.
Personal indebtness can only go so far and we are starting to see the unravelling of this.
07 November 2005, 07:44 PM
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I hate polatics but i gotta say i aint ever voting labour again.
I come from a poor family and they always voted labour cos they r good 4 poorer people - but i see now thay aint doing things properlly
I come from a poor family and they always voted labour cos they r good 4 poorer people - but i see now thay aint doing things properlly
07 November 2005, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by badboy-scoob
I hate polatics but i gotta say i aint ever voting labour again.
I come from a poor family and they always voted labour cos they r good 4 poorer people - but i see now thay aint doing things properlly
I come from a poor family and they always voted labour cos they r good 4 poorer people - but i see now thay aint doing things properlly
We Need MORE Money Taxpayers!!!!
Come on, give to the needy!!
Pete
07 November 2005, 07:59 PM
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Reassuring to hear badboy-scoob wont be voting Labour again at least!!
Unfortunately there millions of Labour voters like him who are busy sat on the sofa watching sky and will probably miss tonights Dispatches because they dont switch from the music channels
Unfortunately there millions of Labour voters like him who are busy sat on the sofa watching sky and will probably miss tonights Dispatches because they dont switch from the music channels
07 November 2005, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Fooook - the education in English has collapsed - it's FAR worse than I first thought
We Need MORE Money Taxpayers!!!!
Come on, give to the needy!!
Pete
We Need MORE Money Taxpayers!!!!
Come on, give to the needy!!
Pete
You need to kick *** then.
07 November 2005, 09:09 PM
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Interesting fact that, "Under the Tories, after the 1997 election, Tax would have HAD to go up to 38%"
Labour held it to 37.5%!!!
FACT - you would have been WORSE off under the Tories!!!
The Tories tried to buy your vote in 1997, they failed miserably as we all know ... now, the cost is being picked up!!
It's a FACT I wasn't aware of ..... we are now paying for the Tories trying to buy your vote in 1997!! SHOCKING state of affairs!!
Well done Labour for taking the flack ................ if there was an election tomorrow, the popular vote would STILL return Labour, so, it has been noted - we salute you!!
Pete
Labour held it to 37.5%!!!
FACT - you would have been WORSE off under the Tories!!! The Tories tried to buy your vote in 1997, they failed miserably as we all know ... now, the cost is being picked up!!
It's a FACT I wasn't aware of ..... we are now paying for the Tories trying to buy your vote in 1997!! SHOCKING state of affairs!!
Well done Labour for taking the flack ................ if there was an election tomorrow, the popular vote would STILL return Labour, so, it has been noted - we salute you!!
Pete
07 November 2005, 09:34 PM
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Had'nt seen as much written crap recently. Oh well - time to invoke the ignore function again
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07 November 2005, 09:55 PM
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That was quite shocking really, but also expected.
Just boils down to SPIN SPIN SPIN - what NL is all about.
"Oh no we've only got 8,000 new teachers when we PROMISED 20,000..... erm - I know! Lets classify trainee student teachers as teachers - that'll make up the numbers!!"
Just boils down to SPIN SPIN SPIN - what NL is all about.
"Oh no we've only got 8,000 new teachers when we PROMISED 20,000..... erm - I know! Lets classify trainee student teachers as teachers - that'll make up the numbers!!"
07 November 2005, 10:05 PM
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Like the program said .........
Interesting fact that, "Under the Tories, after the 1997 election, Tax would have HAD to go up to 38%"
Labour held it to 37.5%!!!
Vote Labour ............ the Tax Less Party!!!
Pete
Interesting fact that, "Under the Tories, after the 1997 election, Tax would have HAD to go up to 38%"
Labour held it to 37.5%!!!
Vote Labour ............ the Tax Less Party!!!
Pete
07 November 2005, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Like the program said .........
Interesting fact that, "Under the Tories, after the 1997 election, Tax would have HAD to go up to 38%"
Labour held it to 37.5%!!!
Vote Labour ............ the Tax Less Party!!!
Pete
Interesting fact that, "Under the Tories, after the 1997 election, Tax would have HAD to go up to 38%"
Labour held it to 37.5%!!!
Vote Labour ............ the Tax Less Party!!!
Pete
Brown said the Tories were going to put tax up to 38%. Since when is it correct to quote New Labour spin as fact?
New Labour propaganda seems to have put people like you into some sort of moronic semi-lucid type trance. Did nothing else sink into your well washed brain whilst watching the program? Are you completely oblivious to your surroundings?
07 November 2005, 10:18 PM
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Pete,
You are missing the point,i bet most people would sooner pay more tax to any government that spent it wisely than less tax to a bunch of monkeys that dont have a f--king clue how to control their finances.
You are missing the point,i bet most people would sooner pay more tax to any government that spent it wisely than less tax to a bunch of monkeys that dont have a f--king clue how to control their finances.
07 November 2005, 10:20 PM
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On the contrary ..... they ARE being spent wisely (it does depend upon who's version of wisely you agree with!!)
Like the program said .........
Interesting fact that, "Under the Tories, after the 1997 election, Tax would have HAD to go up to 38%"
Labour held it to 37.5%!!!
Vote Labour ............ the Tax Less Party!!!
Pete
Like the program said .........
Interesting fact that, "Under the Tories, after the 1997 election, Tax would have HAD to go up to 38%"
Labour held it to 37.5%!!!
Vote Labour ............ the Tax Less Party!!!
Pete
07 November 2005, 10:27 PM
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You see just repeating something doesn't make it stick with those with an ability to analyse.
Might do with those who lack that capability.
Spin, PR, news management, these I can dissect.
Can you Mr. Lewis?
Might do with those who lack that capability.
Spin, PR, news management, these I can dissect.
Can you Mr. Lewis?
07 November 2005, 10:45 PM
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Like the program said .........
Interesting fact that, "Under the Tories, after the 1997 election, Tax would have HAD to go up to 38%"
Labour held it to 37.5%!!!
Vote Labour ............ the Tax Less Party!!!
Its all you lot want - lower taxes - with Labour you have it, under the Tories it would have been higher .... FACT
Pete
PS. Worth repeating as it is more than a little important!!
Interesting fact that, "Under the Tories, after the 1997 election, Tax would have HAD to go up to 38%"
Labour held it to 37.5%!!!
Vote Labour ............ the Tax Less Party!!!
Its all you lot want - lower taxes - with Labour you have it, under the Tories it would have been higher .... FACT
Pete
PS. Worth repeating as it is more than a little important!!
08 November 2005, 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Buckrogers
0.5%, who gives a flying F?
Yeah, right!!!
Pete