LCD OR PLASMA ?
28 October 2005, 02:50 PM
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Plasma IMO....
Some will go for LCD but I find it poor picture quality unless you spend alot of dosh....
p.s. dont go for anything cheap otherwise you'll be dissapointed with it and think its the biggest waste of money youve ever spent
Some will go for LCD but I find it poor picture quality unless you spend alot of dosh....
p.s. dont go for anything cheap otherwise you'll be dissapointed with it and think its the biggest waste of money youve ever spent
28 October 2005, 02:57 PM
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plasma if you want 42" or bigger
but LCD is the future...
beware neither will be as good as a decent CRT tv until high definition tv comes in next year, at which point it will blow your knickers off...
but LCD is the future...
beware neither will be as good as a decent CRT tv until high definition tv comes in next year, at which point it will blow your knickers off...
28 October 2005, 02:58 PM
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this is the spes on the plasma
Model:PDP4211EU
Descriptions:42 inch PLASMA color TV
Display Size:42 inch(106cm) diagonal 16:9
TV RF System
K/I/BG/L/L'
TV Colour System:RF: PAL SECAM AV: PAL/NTSC/SECAM
Channel Coverage:200
TXT:10 Pages For European Languages
Stereo/AV:NICAM A2/SCART
TUNER:Built-in Tuner Volatage synchronized
Audio / Speakers:20 Watts(2~10W)
Voltage:120V-240V 50/60Hz 3-prong polarized plug
AV input:1 AV Input; 1 S-terminal input; 1 Y Cb Cr/Y Pb Pr mux input.
Graphic input:1 analog RGB D-SUB 15pin input
Audio input:1 AV audio; 1 PC audio
OSD:English German French Spanish Italian
Pixel Pitch:Horizontal 1.095 x Vertical 1.110 mm
Display Pixels:Horizontal 852 x Vertical 480 Pixels(1Pixel=1 R,G,B cells)
Pixel Pitch (mm):0.297 x 0.297
Pixel Type:R,G,B Stripe
Effective Display Size:Horizontal 932.94 mm x Vertical 532.8 mm [36.73 inch(H) x 20.98 inch(V)]
Number of Colors:16.77 milion colors
Peak Brightness:Typical 1000 cd/‡u
Contrast Ratio(in dark room):Typical 3000:1
Viewing Angle:Over 160‹
Power Consumption (W):420W
Model:PDP4211EU
Descriptions:42 inch PLASMA color TV
Display Size:42 inch(106cm) diagonal 16:9
TV RF System
K/I/BG/L/L' TV Colour System:RF: PAL SECAM AV: PAL/NTSC/SECAM
Channel Coverage:200
TXT:10 Pages For European Languages
Stereo/AV:NICAM A2/SCART
TUNER:Built-in Tuner Volatage synchronized
Audio / Speakers:20 Watts(2~10W)
Voltage:120V-240V 50/60Hz 3-prong polarized plug
AV input:1 AV Input; 1 S-terminal input; 1 Y Cb Cr/Y Pb Pr mux input.
Graphic input:1 analog RGB D-SUB 15pin input
Audio input:1 AV audio; 1 PC audio
OSD:English German French Spanish Italian
Pixel Pitch:Horizontal 1.095 x Vertical 1.110 mm
Display Pixels:Horizontal 852 x Vertical 480 Pixels(1Pixel=1 R,G,B cells)
Pixel Pitch (mm):0.297 x 0.297
Pixel Type:R,G,B Stripe
Effective Display Size:Horizontal 932.94 mm x Vertical 532.8 mm [36.73 inch(H) x 20.98 inch(V)]
Number of Colors:16.77 milion colors
Peak Brightness:Typical 1000 cd/‡u
Contrast Ratio(in dark room):Typical 3000:1
Viewing Angle:Over 160‹
Power Consumption (W):420W
28 October 2005, 02:59 PM
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LCD
I have one of the new Sony Bravia HD screens (32") and the picture is great, as long as you are viewing it from the correct distance (about 4+ times the height of the screen away). Any closer and it will start to look pixelated/blocky.
I have been to many people's houses with 40" plus screens both LCD and plasma and they look $hit as the rooms are too small for them.
Don't be a chav
Phil
Most people's mistake is buying them too large to impress the neighbours.
I have one of the new Sony Bravia HD screens (32") and the picture is great, as long as you are viewing it from the correct distance (about 4+ times the height of the screen away). Any closer and it will start to look pixelated/blocky.
I have been to many people's houses with 40" plus screens both LCD and plasma and they look $hit as the rooms are too small for them.
Don't be a chav
Phil
Most people's mistake is buying them too large to impress the neighbours.
28 October 2005, 03:00 PM
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pfff, a decent CRT takes up half your front room
Agree with plasma sizes but only cause you dont have a choice. LCDs are the future I agree, but because its future it doesnt mean you buy todays technology buy it when its when the future arrives not whilst its being hyped up
IMO off course. ohh and dont count your chickens on HDTV being out next year just yet....
Agree with plasma sizes but only cause you dont have a choice. LCDs are the future I agree, but because its future it doesnt mean you buy todays technology
buy it when its when the future arrives not whilst its being hyped up IMO off course. ohh and dont count your chickens on HDTV being out next year just yet....
28 October 2005, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Philip Attaway
LCD
I have one of the new Sony Bravia HD screens (32") and the picture is great, as long as you are viewing it from the correct distance (about 4+ times the height of the screen away). Any closer and it will start to look pixelated/blocky.
I have been to many people's houses with 40" plus screens both LCD and plasma and they look $hit as the rooms are too small for them.
Don't be a chav
Phil
Most people's mistake is buying them too large to impress the neighbours.
I have one of the new Sony Bravia HD screens (32") and the picture is great, as long as you are viewing it from the correct distance (about 4+ times the height of the screen away). Any closer and it will start to look pixelated/blocky.
I have been to many people's houses with 40" plus screens both LCD and plasma and they look $hit as the rooms are too small for them.
Don't be a chav
Phil
Most people's mistake is buying them too large to impress the neighbours.
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28 October 2005, 03:03 PM
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Specs only tell you a small part of the story.
See it working against other plasma's then make up your mind which is the best picture for the best price.
As a suggestion - getting one that is HD ready may save some future headaches.
See it working against other plasma's then make up your mind which is the best picture for the best price.
As a suggestion - getting one that is HD ready may save some future headaches.
28 October 2005, 03:04 PM
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the PDP4211EU is going to be about a grand yeah? If I was you Id spend that grand on a 37" better plasma or save the pennies for a better 42"
thats IMO off course, the choice is up to you but when your buying technology like this you really do get what you pay for.... I was set of a 42" but decided with the budget Id get a better telly for the 37"....
thats IMO off course, the choice is up to you but when your buying technology like this you really do get what you pay for.... I was set of a 42" but decided with the budget Id get a better telly for the 37"....
28 October 2005, 03:05 PM
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Sky announces HD line up
Sky subscribers will be able to watch Barclays Premiership footie and recent movies in High Definition from early 2006. Both Sky Sports and Sky Box Office are among the channels which will be launched as part of Sky HD next year. Others include Sky One, Artsworld and two Sky Movies screens. HD movie titles available at launch include Spider Man 2, The Day After Tomorrow and House of Flying Daggers. In addition to Premiership football there will also be live rugby from The Guinness Premiership. Sky viewers will be able to pre-register for Sky HD in retail stores from this Friday (August 26). Comet and selected independent retailers will be the first to offer the pre-registration service with others expected to follow.
www.sky.com/hd
About Sky's HD plans Further details of Sky's HD channel line-up, together with information about pricing and the launch date, will be announced over the coming months.
* Although the Sky HD box can be connected to any kind of TV set, customers are advised to get an "HD Ready" TV of 26" or more to enjoy the full benefits of High Definition picture quality. Sky estimates that almost two million HD TVs will have been sold in the UK by the end of 2006.
* "HD Ready" is a labelling scheme that is being introduced by the TV manufacturer's organisation EICTA. The "HD Ready" logo will appear on an increasing number of TVs in shops over the coming months. Any TV that carries the "HD Ready" label will work with Sky HD.
* The Sky HD box will be equipped with an HDMI (High-Definition Multimedia Interface) as its primary means of connecting to an HD display. To get the best from HD you will need a plasma, LCD or DLP TV that has a minimum of 720 lines of resolution. If the TV doesn't have HDMI or DVI connectors and only has analogue component connectors without HDCP it will still be possible to watch all Sky's HD channels because Sky's initial HD boxes will also have these connectors.
* Sky HD will support both 720p/50 and 1080i/25 picture formats. Broadcasters will be able to choose the format which is most appropriate to their individual requirements.
* The PVR capability on the Sky HD box will require a Sky+ subscription.
* Sky will use the advanced compression coding system MPEG-4 for its HD broadcasts.
* In order to take advantage of Dolby 5.1 consumers will need to purchase the necessary audio equipment.
www.sky.com/hd
About Sky's HD plans Further details of Sky's HD channel line-up, together with information about pricing and the launch date, will be announced over the coming months.
* Although the Sky HD box can be connected to any kind of TV set, customers are advised to get an "HD Ready" TV of 26" or more to enjoy the full benefits of High Definition picture quality. Sky estimates that almost two million HD TVs will have been sold in the UK by the end of 2006.
* "HD Ready" is a labelling scheme that is being introduced by the TV manufacturer's organisation EICTA. The "HD Ready" logo will appear on an increasing number of TVs in shops over the coming months. Any TV that carries the "HD Ready" label will work with Sky HD.
* The Sky HD box will be equipped with an HDMI (High-Definition Multimedia Interface) as its primary means of connecting to an HD display. To get the best from HD you will need a plasma, LCD or DLP TV that has a minimum of 720 lines of resolution. If the TV doesn't have HDMI or DVI connectors and only has analogue component connectors without HDCP it will still be possible to watch all Sky's HD channels because Sky's initial HD boxes will also have these connectors.
* Sky HD will support both 720p/50 and 1080i/25 picture formats. Broadcasters will be able to choose the format which is most appropriate to their individual requirements.
* The PVR capability on the Sky HD box will require a Sky+ subscription.
* Sky will use the advanced compression coding system MPEG-4 for its HD broadcasts.
* In order to take advantage of Dolby 5.1 consumers will need to purchase the necessary audio equipment.
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Originally Posted by GrollySTI
As a suggestion - getting one that is HD ready may save some future headaches.
28 October 2005, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
pfff, a decent CRT takes up half your front room
Agree with plasma sizes but only cause you dont have a choice. LCDs are the future I agree, but because its future it doesnt mean you buy todays technology buy it when its when the future arrives not whilst its being hyped up
IMO off course. ohh and dont count your chickens on HDTV being out next year just yet....
Agree with plasma sizes but only cause you dont have a choice. LCDs are the future I agree, but because its future it doesnt mean you buy todays technology
buy it when its when the future arrives not whilst its being hyped up IMO off course. ohh and dont count your chickens on HDTV being out next year just yet....
28 October 2005, 03:08 PM
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Homer, Ive read it all before there'll only be 2 channels out of your 100 or so that'll be broadcasted in HDTV, so unless your a football fan you wont be getting the best from it all anyhow whilst paying stupid money for it too.... makes me laugh really. who watches movie channels? anyone who pays top dollar for a good TV (something HD ready) will probably have seen all the films being screened on Sky Movies 10 times over before theyre screened HDTV will be quality when its finally released properly but Id estimate your looking at mid to late 2007 IMO
there'll only be 2 channels out of your 100 or so that'll be broadcasted in HDTV, so unless your a football fan you wont be getting the best from it all anyhow whilst paying stupid money for it too.... makes me laugh really. who watches movie channels? anyone who pays top dollar for a good TV (something HD ready) will probably have seen all the films being screened on Sky Movies 10 times over before theyre screened HDTV will be quality when its finally released properly but Id estimate your looking at mid to late 2007 IMO
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Sarcasm aside, there is a lot of pomp and waffle about AV related stuff. In general, set your budget, go to 1 or 2 reputable outlets (preferably a specialist not your Currys etc). Tell them what you want to be able to do. Get them to set up a couple of demos for you and then watch / listen to it. Pick the one that YOU think is best, what other people think doesn't really matter.
28 October 2005, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
You'll be lucky to find one that isnt HD ready now....
before buying, do the research, and i dont mean ask the numpty in dixons...
28 October 2005, 03:09 PM
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I have a Samsung LE32R41BD LCD tv (32"). Very happy with it. Yeah, up close you can see the problems with the picture, but that's down to the quality of the source (ie, terrestial tv!). £840 incl vat & delivery.
At 6 feet away (ie, normal viewing distance), I challenge anyone to question the picture quality. As good as a CRT IMHO. Your eyes are very good at deceiving you!
As for HD, this model can cope with the forthcoming HD transmissions. It has the necessary HDMI socket.
Sky are supposedly launching 6 channels (sports & films) in HD early 2006. Might be pricey at first though, as you'd expect. Geeks are prepared to pay a premium.
DVD-HD or blueray should be with us in 2006 as well. Yes, there's a format war, but that'll get settled soon enough. Look at DVD-R/DVD+R - now all the players can play/record both formats....no doubt similar *may* happen with DVD-HD, and Blueray (although I realise they're far more distinct from each other than DVD-R/DVD+R).
At 6 feet away (ie, normal viewing distance), I challenge anyone to question the picture quality. As good as a CRT IMHO. Your eyes are very good at deceiving you!
As for HD, this model can cope with the forthcoming HD transmissions. It has the necessary HDMI socket.
Sky are supposedly launching 6 channels (sports & films) in HD early 2006. Might be pricey at first though, as you'd expect. Geeks are prepared to pay a premium.
DVD-HD or blueray should be with us in 2006 as well. Yes, there's a format war, but that'll get settled soon enough. Look at DVD-R/DVD+R - now all the players can play/record both formats....no doubt similar *may* happen with DVD-HD, and Blueray (although I realise they're far more distinct from each other than DVD-R/DVD+R).
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Originally Posted by davegtt
the PDP4211EU is going to be about a grand yeah? If I was you Id spend that grand on a 37" better plasma or save the pennies for a better 42"
thats IMO off course, the choice is up to you but when your buying technology like this you really do get what you pay for.... I was set of a 42" but decided with the budget Id get a better telly for the 37"....
thats IMO off course, the choice is up to you but when your buying technology like this you really do get what you pay for.... I was set of a 42" but decided with the budget Id get a better telly for the 37"....
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Originally Posted by GrollySTI
HDTV is "officially" being released early next year - one of the recent Plasma mags interviewed some marketing/EO of Sky who confirmed this.
Just like Microsoft announce a release date for a new version of windows and then always deliver it on time!
28 October 2005, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
You'll be lucky to find one that isnt HD ready now....
You've just got to take a look in somewhere like Comet - they've got about 20 plasma's/LCD's on display and at least half aren't HD.
28 October 2005, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
Homer, Ive read it all before there'll only be 2 channels out of your 100 or so that'll be broadcasted in HDTV, so unless your a football fan you wont be getting the best from it all anyhow whilst paying stupid money for it too.... makes me laugh really. who watches movie channels? anyone who pays top dollar for a good TV (something HD ready) will probably have seen all the films being screened on Sky Movies 10 times over before theyre screened HDTV will be quality when its finally released properly but Id estimate your looking at mid to late 2007 IMO
there'll only be 2 channels out of your 100 or so that'll be broadcasted in HDTV, so unless your a football fan you wont be getting the best from it all anyhow whilst paying stupid money for it too.... makes me laugh really. who watches movie channels? anyone who pays top dollar for a good TV (something HD ready) will probably have seen all the films being screened on Sky Movies 10 times over before theyre screened HDTV will be quality when its finally released properly but Id estimate your looking at mid to late 2007 IMOHD-DVD should be out next year too, then most stuff will be available..
i suppose like anything, ya pay ya money ya take ya chance...
plus football is alli want HD for anyway!
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Originally Posted by mr & mrs carlos uk300
799 Think its a bargain, and its hd ready
28 October 2005, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by GrollySTI
Hmm not sure on this - there are still alot of non HD ready screens around.
You've just got to take a look in somewhere like Comet - they've got about 20 plasma's/LCD's on display and at least half aren't HD.
You've just got to take a look in somewhere like Comet - they've got about 20 plasma's/LCD's on display and at least half aren't HD.
28 October 2005, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
Who looks at plasmas and/or LCD tvs in Comet?
They do have a use
28 October 2005, 03:16 PM
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42" DLP won it for me, can't be happier, HD movies look stunning on it, and they're a damn sight cheaper than plasmas & lcds
