How to we react to the attacks?
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How to we react to the attacks?
Do we take it on the chin and say 'We won't be defeated'?
Or do we look at the reasons why we are targets and go ways to solving the problems, e.g. changing our stance on invading countries with loyalists/terrorists ready to revenge?
Or maybe something else?
What are your thoughts...
Or do we look at the reasons why we are targets and go ways to solving the problems, e.g. changing our stance on invading countries with loyalists/terrorists ready to revenge?
Or maybe something else?
What are your thoughts...
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Credit to our emergency services i say. This is something that no one can prepare for, as no one knows exactly what will hapeen, but our emergency services were very professional and efficient.
Could of been alot worse, and maybe it isnt over, but we took it as it came, and have come out standing tall
Could of been alot worse, and maybe it isnt over, but we took it as it came, and have come out standing tall
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Just going to say something along Brendan's lines...... ie. They certainly got our attention didn't they ?
Sadly, the cowards who are responsible for such heinous crimes as today's are insidious and are very difficult to apprehend before the crime. It befalls us all to be watchful and observant, rather be thought a fool for over-reacting than keep quiet and see another disaster like this morning.
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Sadly, the cowards who are responsible for such heinous crimes as today's are insidious and are very difficult to apprehend before the crime. It befalls us all to be watchful and observant, rather be thought a fool for over-reacting than keep quiet and see another disaster like this morning.
Yve
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Originally Posted by davegtt
Stand our ground....
we wasnt in Iraq or Afganistan when the WTC got attacked.....
we wasnt in Iraq or Afganistan when the WTC got attacked.....
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Originally Posted by Nicci
London stood up pretty well when the IRA used it as a target.
We can get through this.
We can get through this.
This is a whole different ball game of terrorism, and the public wnt have the stomach for their own blood on everyday commute buses in the UK.
I dont recall too many suicide bombers in the IRA ranks either.
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Gotta say, this might just set back the government's plans to push us all on to public transport. After all, when was the last time somebody suicide bombed a car?
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I don't think we need do anything really other than be vigilant. There's little anyone can do to prevent this kind of thing.
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I don't think we need do anything really other than be vigilant. There's little anyone can do to prevent this kind of thing.
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Originally Posted by davegtt
Stand our ground....
we wasnt in Iraq or Afganistan when the WTC got attacked.....
we wasnt in Iraq or Afganistan when the WTC got attacked.....
We had nothing to do with any of this until Blair & Bush used 9/11 to invade Iraq, which had nothing to do with terrorism. As soon as we entered in with the USA in Iraq our card was marked.
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If we pull out of places like Iraq stuff like this isnt just going to stop....well at least I dont think it will... Been a horrific day but we owe a responsibility to those innocents in Iraq that we helped to destroy their lives and country to help get the place rolling again.
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Originally Posted by gsm1
They'd been trying to bomb the WTC since 10 years before 9/11. That was because of America's foreign policy.
We had nothing to do with any of this until Blair & Bush used 9/11 to invade Iraq, which had nothing to do with terrorism. As soon as we entered in with the USA in Iraq our card was marked.
We had nothing to do with any of this until Blair & Bush used 9/11 to invade Iraq, which had nothing to do with terrorism. As soon as we entered in with the USA in Iraq our card was marked.
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Originally Posted by Jap2Scrap
I don't think we need do anything really other than be vigilant. There's little anyone can do to prevent this kind of thing.
Maybe we should stop releasing known terrorists into the community.
If we find known terorrists maybe we should lock them up.
Maybe we should allow phone tapping as evidence against them rather than worrying about their "human rights".
Would be a start !
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Originally Posted by scoobynutta555
Trouble is with that, the IRA primeraly targeted property (in London) and issued warnings before blowing bombs off. The religious nuts dont issue warnings and walk around strapped in dynamite intent on numbers of kills rather than "structural " damage etc.
Did you notice one of the last sentences of their press release?
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showpost....&postcount=365
"He who warns is excused".
Someone's been reading their Koran so they can give themselves a get out of eternal damnation free card.
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We'll just get on with it, as we have done in the past when the IRA, or some other group has bombed London, or other cities.
I hope that this holds true and we don't have the same reaction the US had and still has to 9/11. Wailing in the streets, tighter, nay, more insane security measures, and still going on and on and on and on and on and on (repeat a billion plus times until the end of time) about 9/11 / war on terror / iraq / Saddam / Bin laden
As said, I think we'll do what we have always done, we survived a massive ariel bombing campaign during the second world war, I'm sure we can survive some loonies causing havoc with a few bombs (I am not belitting the loss of life here, it is tragic)
OK, so it's somewhat different, then again, not so different... Devestation, heartache, rebuilding, making things right again.
I hope that this holds true and we don't have the same reaction the US had and still has to 9/11. Wailing in the streets, tighter, nay, more insane security measures, and still going on and on and on and on and on and on (repeat a billion plus times until the end of time) about 9/11 / war on terror / iraq / Saddam / Bin laden
As said, I think we'll do what we have always done, we survived a massive ariel bombing campaign during the second world war, I'm sure we can survive some loonies causing havoc with a few bombs (I am not belitting the loss of life here, it is tragic)
OK, so it's somewhat different, then again, not so different... Devestation, heartache, rebuilding, making things right again.
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Originally Posted by jasey
Hmmm.
Maybe we should stop releasing known terrorists into the community.
If we find known terorrists maybe we should lock them up.
Maybe we should allow phone tapping as evidence against them rather than worrying about their "human rights".
Would be a start !
Maybe we should stop releasing known terrorists into the community.
If we find known terorrists maybe we should lock them up.
Maybe we should allow phone tapping as evidence against them rather than worrying about their "human rights".
Would be a start !
The trouble is that "human rights" ARE an issue! You can't have one rule for some and not for others so unless you don't mind the idea of your phone being tapped on a random basis you have to draw the line somewhere before that.
Of course, you might be saying just tap the phones of Muslims/Immigrants/Irishmen and that opens a whole new can of worms.
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Originally Posted by Jap2Scrap
Gotta say, this might just set back the government's plans to push us all on to public transport. After all, when was the last time somebody suicide bombed a car?
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Originally Posted by Jap2Scrap
For me, some of that is covered by my interpretation of vigilant....
The trouble is that "human rights" ARE an issue! You can't have one rule for some and not for others so unless you don't mind the idea of your phone being tapped on a random basis you have to draw the line somewhere before that.
Of course, you might be saying just tap the phones of Muslims/Immigrants/Irishmen and that opens a whole new can of worms.
The trouble is that "human rights" ARE an issue! You can't have one rule for some and not for others so unless you don't mind the idea of your phone being tapped on a random basis you have to draw the line somewhere before that.
Of course, you might be saying just tap the phones of Muslims/Immigrants/Irishmen and that opens a whole new can of worms.
I'd be willing to bet that the purpotrators of these attacks are known to the authorities in some shape or form
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I personally feel that anyone living in the UK, legally or illegally that starts going on about how the west/UK is evil and that people should rise up against the evil should be kicked out of the country immediatley. They seem happy to live in our country and live on our benefit system, or even pay taxes, so it can't be that evil, can it.
You don't like it? **** off somewhere else and take your hatred with you.
Anyway, I digress. We will get through this, in a years time there will be a rememberance of it, but we won't be harping on and on and on about it, as we are used to this kind of thing, what with the campagins by the IRA. It's not nice, but we'll survive.
You don't like it? **** off somewhere else and take your hatred with you.
Anyway, I digress. We will get through this, in a years time there will be a rememberance of it, but we won't be harping on and on and on about it, as we are used to this kind of thing, what with the campagins by the IRA. It's not nice, but we'll survive.
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Anyway, I digress. We will get through this, in a years time there will be a rememberance of it, but we won't be harping on and on and on about it, as we are used to this kind of thing, what with the campagins by the IRA. It's not nice, but we'll survive.
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Originally Posted by Jap2Scrap
Something I heard in a radio interview which put a wry smile on my face was a montage of interviews with eyewitnesses of the bus explosion. They interviewed some Brits at the scene and they were calmly and compassionately describing the attrocity. Then they interviewed a holidaying American couple and you'd have thought a nuke had been dropped on the city. It's no surprise considering 9/11 is rammed down their throats at every opportunity.
You are aware we just had a "celebration" of beating the French / Spanish 200 years ago aren't you .
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Originally Posted by jasey
Aye - It's not like we've been knocked out of the world cup on penalties or something important .
You are aware we just had a "celebration" of beating the French / Spanish 200 years ago aren't you .
You are aware we just had a "celebration" of beating the French / Spanish 200 years ago aren't you .
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How do we react???
Go on the offensive…….
The G8 are meeting now, they should isolate those countries that sponsor or are complicit with terrorist groups – no trade, no travel, no aid – nothing – see how long they can hold out (yea I know we get oil from Iran)
The government needs to get tough with home grown terrorist/sympathizers. Lock ‘em up until they can’t cause any trouble – they’re guilty by association
On a more positive note it looks like the emergency services are doing a terrific job getting things back to normal.
Go on the offensive…….
The G8 are meeting now, they should isolate those countries that sponsor or are complicit with terrorist groups – no trade, no travel, no aid – nothing – see how long they can hold out (yea I know we get oil from Iran)
The government needs to get tough with home grown terrorist/sympathizers. Lock ‘em up until they can’t cause any trouble – they’re guilty by association
On a more positive note it looks like the emergency services are doing a terrific job getting things back to normal.
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A good start would be to deport the list of 'iffy people' we're keeping an eye on. Kabul would be suitable, they can be pissed off at the West from there.
We need to stop pussyfooting around now. The time for touchy-feely political correctness has passed.
We need to stop pussyfooting around now. The time for touchy-feely political correctness has passed.
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Originally Posted by jasey
Hmmm.
Maybe we should stop releasing known terrorists into the community.
If we find known terorrists maybe we should lock them up.
Maybe we should allow phone tapping as evidence against them rather than worrying about their "human rights".
Would be a start !
Maybe we should stop releasing known terrorists into the community.
If we find known terorrists maybe we should lock them up.
Maybe we should allow phone tapping as evidence against them rather than worrying about their "human rights".
Would be a start !