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Old 31 May 2005, 07:28 AM
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When did "Lighted" become a proper word?

I saw it a few times this weekend, and was trying to explain to my daughter as she was reading the back of a Marks and Spencer toy that there is no such word.

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Old 31 May 2005, 08:40 AM
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Absolutely a valid word, Steve, as in lighted match. First documented use in 1616. Doesn't have to be lit.

You gotta love English.
Old 31 May 2005, 08:42 AM
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First used in 1616.
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As in, I lighted a match.

HTH
Old 31 May 2005, 08:49 AM
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As in, i stuck a lighted rocket up your **** and waved goodbye

HTH
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It doesn't (makes Larry Grayson style gay arm movements) have to be lit.

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Oooh you ARE awful.
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Anyway, I hope that my explanation helps clear things up Steve.
Old 31 May 2005, 09:07 AM
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He's disappeared


Couldn't have been THAT bothered then..
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Hello

Telboy: He went to work!

Mmmm. Although your explainations are good, I still think that the use of that word on the instructions on the back of the toys were due to being translated into English from Chinese by a mongolian field worker as opposed to some ancient use of English.

And it STILL wont pass through my lips, "lighted" really doesn't sound okay...

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Old 31 May 2005, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Absolutely a valid word, Steve, as in lighted match. First documented use in 1616. Doesn't have to be lit.

You gotta love English.
Hmmm - did that come from Dictionary.com?

[Middle English, from Old English loht, lht. See leuk- in Indo-European Roots.]
Usage Note: Lighted and lit are equally acceptable as past tense and past participle of light. Both forms are also well established as adjectives: a lighted (or lit) candle.

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lighted

adj 1: set afire or burning; "the lighted candles"; "a lighted cigarette"; "a lit firecracker" [syn: lit] [ant: unlighted] 2: provided with artificial light; "illuminated advertising"; "looked up at the lighted windows"; "a brightly lit room"; "a well-lighted stairwell" [syn: illuminated, lit, well-lighted]

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So "lighted" is fine if you are a Yank, otherwise, teach your kids to speak proper English
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The OED, unexpurgated version. Swivel.
Old 31 May 2005, 11:26 AM
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LOL, as in a lighted thread
Old 31 May 2005, 11:53 AM
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PMSL at the Two Wrongies on this thread. Or are they the natural successors to Hinge and Bracket?
Old 31 May 2005, 11:55 AM
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Lighted is fine (Bachelor's degree in english language). <nods>

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Old 31 May 2005, 11:58 AM
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Nice of you to add your Batchelor's into the soup, L.
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Well, it was good enough for Hans Christian Anderson

It was terribly cold and nearly dark on the last evening of the old year, and the snow was falling fast. In the cold and the darkness, a poor little girl, with bare head and naked feet, roamed through the streets. It is true she had on a pair of slippers when she left home, but they were not of much use. They were very large, so large, indeed, that they had belonged to her mother, and the poor little creature had lost them in running across the street to avoid two carriages that were rolling along at a terrible rate. One of the slippers she could not find, and a boy seized upon the other and ran away with it, saying that he could use it as a cradle, when he had children of his own. So the little girl went on with her little naked feet, which were quite red and blue with the cold. In an old apron she carried a number of matches, and had a bundle of them in her hands. No one had bought anything of her the whole day, nor had anyone given her even a penny. Shivering with cold and hunger, she crept along; poor little child, she looked the picture of misery. The snowflakes fell on her long, fair hair, which hung in curls on her shoulders, but she regarded them not.

Lights were shining from every window, and there was a savoury smell of roast goose, for it was New-year's eve—yes, she remembered that. In a corner, between two houses, one of which projected beyond the other, she sank down and huddled herself together. She had drawn her little feet under her, but she could not keep off the cold; and she dared not go home, for she had sold no matches, and could not take home even a penny of money. Her father would certainly beat her; besides, it was almost as cold at home as here, for they had only the roof to cover them, through which the wind howled, although the largest holes had been stopped up with straw and rags. Her little hands were almost frozen with the cold. Ah! perhaps a burning match might be some good, if she could draw it from the bundle and strike it against the wall, just to warm her fingers. She drew one out—“scratch!” how it sputtered as it burnt! It gave a warm, bright light, like a little candle, as she held her hand over it. It was really a wonderful light. It seemed to the little girl that she was sitting by a large iron stove, with polished brass feet and a brass ornament. How the fire burned! and seemed so beautifully warm that the child stretched out her feet as if to warm them, when, lo! the flame of the match went out, the stove vanished, and she had only the remains of the half-burnt match in her hand.


She rubbed another match on the wall. It burst into a flame, and where its light fell upon the wall it became as transparent as a veil, and she could see into the room. The table was covered with a snowy white table-cloth, on which stood a splendid dinner service, and a steaming roast goose, stuffed with apples and dried plums. And what was still more wonderful, the goose jumped down from the dish and waddled across the floor, with a knife and fork in its breast, to the little girl. Then the match went out, and there remained nothing but the thick, damp, cold wall before her.

She lighted another match, and then she found herself sitting under a beautiful Christmas-tree. It was larger and more beautifully decorated than the one which she had seen through the glass door at the rich merchant's. Thousands of tapers were burning upon the green branches, and coloured pictures, like those she had seen in the show-windows, looked down upon it all. The little one stretched out her hand towards them,
and the match went out.

The Christmas lights rose higher and higher, till they looked to her like the stars in the sky. Then she saw a star fall, leaving behind it a bright streak of fire. “Someone is dying,” thought the little girl, for her old grandmother, the only one who had ever loved her, and who was now dead, had told her that when a star falls,
a soul was going up to God.

She again rubbed a match on the wall, and the light shone round her; in the brightness stood her old grandmother, clear and shining, yet mild and loving in her appearance. “Grandmother,” cried the little one, “O take me with you; I know you will go away when the match burns out; you will vanish like the warm stove, the roast goose, and the large, glorious Christmas-tree.” And she made haste to light the whole bundle of matches, for she wished to keep her grandmother there. And the matches glowed with a light that was brighter than the noon-day, and her grandmother had never appeared so large or so beautiful. She took the little girl in her arms, and they both flew upwards in brightness and joy far above the earth, where there was neither cold nor hunger nor pain, for they were with God.

In the dawn of morning there lay the poor little one, with pale cheeks and smiling mouth, leaning against the wall; she had been frozen to death on the last evening of the year; and the New-year's sun rose and shone upon a little corpse! The child still sat, in the stiffness of death, holding the matches in her hand, one bundle of which was burnt. “She tried to warm herself,” said some. No one imagined what beautiful things she had seen, nor into what glory she had entered with her grandmother, on New-year's day.
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Eh? I think not.
Old 31 May 2005, 12:16 PM
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It is Bachelor's Degree. Sorry Bubba, posting too quickly.
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Sad story

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Like anybody red it.
Old 31 May 2005, 12:38 PM
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Looks like tel blue you out Karl
Old 31 May 2005, 12:54 PM
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Well I red it you monochrom, steam powered, relic of what was once a green and pleasant land.
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Originally Posted by Karl 227
Well, it was good enough for Hans Christian Anderson

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Ahh yes that classic, errr Danish fairy tale writer Hans Christian Anderson who didn't write in English, yup really good example to cite!
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Originally Posted by OllyK
Ahh yes that classic, errr Danish fairy tale writer Hans Christian Anderson who didn't write in English, yup really good example to cite!

Christ
Old 31 May 2005, 01:57 PM
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LOL, of all the people who don't like to admit they're wrong, i think i'm beaten....
Old 31 May 2005, 02:11 PM
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^^^ shirley that's beated
Old 31 May 2005, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
Ahh yes that classic, errr Danish fairy tale writer Hans Christian Anderson who didn't write in English, yup really good example to cite!
Hans Christian Anderson was born in Oxford, the rumour that he was from Denmark was started by a bloke in a pub near Witney.
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Originally Posted by Karl 227
Hans Christian Anderson was born in Oxford, the rumour that he was from Denmark was started by a bloke in a pub near Witney.
And originally called Christopher Smith as well I have no doubt



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