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Old 03 May 2005, 06:12 PM
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Lightbulb So after 3 weeks of electioneering,i'm yet to hear a good Tory policy regarding......

The Economy
The NHS
Education
The Welfare state


The things that really matter.

Anyone like to educate me?


(actually i'll give them one,tackling hospital cleanliness.Good idea,but in itself not an election winner)
Old 03 May 2005, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by paulr
The Economy
The NHS
Education
The Welfare state


The things that really matter.

Anyone like to educate me?


(actually i'll give them one,tackling hospital cleanliness.Good idea,but in itself not an election winner)
Have you not thought to read their mainifesto then.Try here:

http://www.conservatives.com/

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Old 03 May 2005, 07:23 PM
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read their manifesto? I have,and its a joke

I have yet to read a good Tory policy full stop.Except maybe Police red tape,I will give them that
Old 03 May 2005, 07:26 PM
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That's why they've no chance.

There's no viable opposition. A sad state of affairs.
Old 03 May 2005, 07:59 PM
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arent they the only party who will scrap the speed camera partnership.
would get my vote based on that
Old 03 May 2005, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jfrf
arent they the only party who will scrap the speed camera partnership.
would get my vote based on that
Nope. They just said they'll review it. Doesn't mean they'll scrap anything and they haven't included it in their manifesto, so don't hold your breath...
Old 03 May 2005, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jfrf
arent they the only party who will scrap the speed camera partnership.
would get my vote based on that
Not scrap but 'investigate'.....but it's better than nothing so gets my vote on that too.
Old 03 May 2005, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by King RA
Not scrap but 'investigate'.....but it's better than nothing so gets my vote on that too.

LOL. What a shallow, and frankly stupid reason to vote for a party!
Old 03 May 2005, 08:06 PM
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Labour have loads to say about policies but never followed any up after the last couple of elections from what I saw. They've had a long time and haven't sorted much out - NI increase and student fees have left me out of pocket. Also the shares/pensions are doing badly and my cash savings earn bugger all interest.Let the tories have ago and even if they do nothing atleast they won't be dipping into my fooking take home pay so readily The only thing labour gave us was a housing boom but thats finished now anyway
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
LOL. What a shallow, and frankly stupid reason to vote for a party!
Thought I'd also add to get Labour out of office too!!! Can't stand Tories, can't stand Labour....but 1 thing I do know is I don't want any more Labour ballsing things up.
Old 03 May 2005, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by King RA
Thought I'd also add to get Labour out of office too!!! Can't stand Tories, can't stand Labour....but 1 thing I do know is I don't want any more Labour ballsing things up.
Fair enough.
Old 03 May 2005, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by paulr
The Economy
The NHS
Education
The Welfare state


The things that really matter.

Anyone like to educate me?


(actually i'll give them one,tackling hospital cleanliness.Good idea,but in itself not an election winner)
8 years of labour in power and yet to see a decent policy implemnted
Old 03 May 2005, 08:51 PM
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8 turns to 13...............
Old 03 May 2005, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
Fair enough.
Same here...another tory vote.....

more anti labour - anti lies than anything
Old 03 May 2005, 09:07 PM
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I've already voted.

And it wasn't Tory.
Old 03 May 2005, 09:34 PM
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Labour probably will win unfortunately, so we can look forward to more speed cameras, still no NHS dentists, more hitting on the motorist to pay for assylum seekers benefits, more chavs, more theft, and everything getting worse than it is now.

Hoorah!
Old 03 May 2005, 09:47 PM
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I've voted and it wasn't TORY

Whoever votes Tory wants their bumps felt! Either that or they don't remember the last Tory shower ........ judging by the Tory supporters words they are clearly little kiddies, so maybe thats it??

Tories are unelectable!

FIVE MORE YEARS!!!

FIVE MORE YEARS!!!

FIVE MORE YEARS!!!

Pete
Old 03 May 2005, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Weaver
Labour probably will win unfortunately, so we can look forward to more speed cameras, still no NHS dentists, more hitting on the motorist to pay for assylum seekers benefits, more chavs, more theft, and everything getting worse than it is now.

Hoorah!
how right you are-unfortunately! just cant get my head round the fact that the ps lewis's of the world continually kiss labours ****.
Old 03 May 2005, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by mattvortex
how right you are-unfortunately! just cant get my head round the fact that the ps lewis's of the world continually kiss labours ****.
Remember one FACT!

YOU are out of touch, you are in the MINORITY!

Which means I am clearly more tuned-in to the real world than you

Pete
Old 03 May 2005, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I've voted and it wasn't TORY

Whoever votes Tory wants their bumps felt! Either that or they don't remember the last Tory shower ........ judging by the Tory supporters words they are clearly little kiddies, so maybe thats it??

Tories are unelectable!

FIVE MORE YEARS!!!

FIVE MORE YEARS!!!

FIVE MORE YEARS!!!

Pete
just out of interest why are you so pro-labour? does it not p!ss you off that they're so soft on crime , encourage state scroungers and treat motorists like cash points? Not saying that any of the other parties would do any better but surely these problems must concern you?
Old 03 May 2005, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Remember one FACT!

YOU are out of touch, you are in the MINORITY!

Which means I am clearly more tuned-in to the real world than you

Pete
yes, you are clearly such a superior being-i hear people speak very highly of you on here- wow ,your fantastic ,your greatness!
Old 03 May 2005, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Remember one FACT!

YOU are out of touch, you are in the MINORITY!

Which means I am clearly more tuned-in to the real world than you

Pete
Take Blair out of the equation and you have a party full of unelectable, non-charasmatic bafoons.
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And take Howard out the equation and you have??

The same as with him in it - an unelectable party.
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I'm still waiting to hear a good Tory policy?


I'm not saying Labour are perfect,but here's a few policies that have had a positive effect on people i know.

1.Minimum wage
2.Extended maternity leave and pay
3.Max working week
4.Scottish parliament (my grandad lives in Inverness)
5.Extra fuel allowance
6.Working family tax credit
7.Minimum income guarentee for pensioners.


Forget Iraq and illegal immigrants.If the Tories want to form a serious government then they must offer something to working families,both rich and poor.

Even the Tories amongst you must agree with that.
Old 03 May 2005, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mattvortex
just out of interest why are you so pro-labour? does it not p!ss you off that they're so soft on crime , encourage state scroungers and treat motorists like cash points? Not saying that any of the other parties would do any better but surely these problems must concern you?
Well it might if they were but thats a load of "Daily Mail/Express headlines. Soft on crime - my local villains are not voting Labour!
State scroungers - do you mean Mr & Mrs Windsor and their family - well Tony is too soft on them I accept.
As for motororosts as cash points can I ask who introduced the system of constantly raising petrol tax - the answer is the Chancellor before Gordon Brown. for the not so bright he was a . . . . . Tory.
So why vote Tory - only because you are not very clever or very very rich !!!!!
PS the Lib Dems are much much worse!!
The only thing Michael Howard gets right is his football team.
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Originally Posted by mattvortex
and treat motorists like cash points
I assume you mean Speeding Cameras and Fines??

Lets assume its a tax then? .... its a Tax you do NOT have to pay!!

I know!! Its a shocking revelation for you - but, its TRUE!!

Hooooray!! You don't have to pay ... don't speed today!!

Pete
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Sadly due to Iraq, the lies about protecting borders and not giving up control, the promise not to increase NI contributions, the promise not to introduce top up fees, the loss of revenue when we sold the family home, the plundering of Pensions schemes, etc etc Tony will not get my vote this time. Oh and of course the scamera partnerships.
Old 04 May 2005, 08:48 AM
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Well I think the tory policy regarding private treatment to save the NHS money is pretty damn good.

paulr - why should we forget illegal immigrants? Every Friday when we do our weekly shop there are 10 - 15 immigrants in Asda with full trolleys of food, and they always seem to be buying TV's and DVD players - who pays for that?

As for motoring - Labour will introduce journey tax. Doesnt affect me in the slightest, but for those that do 30-40k miles a year for work it will be bad.

I remember the tories being in power when I was younger and life seemed so much better regarding the price of things, PC'ness and general crime.
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Originally Posted by paulr

.If the Tories want to form a serious government then they must offer something to working families,both rich and poor.

Even the Tories amongst you must agree with that.
are any of these policies good for working families at the rich end???

NO


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