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Old 23 April 2005, 06:30 PM
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Exclamation It's Official - Labour *will* introduce road charging.

Thre three main parties today announced their policies on transport.

Both Labour and the Lib Dems announced they are intending to introduce road charging.

The Tories however say they will NOT and that they will end the 8 year war on the motorist.

So now we know *exactly* where we stand.

Anyone still intending to vote New Labour is also voting for the introduction of Road Charging.

Vote wisely on May 5th.

UB
Old 23 April 2005, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
Vote wisely on May 5th.
UB
Oh, I will, and so will millions of others stand by me and the best leader the country has ever seen.

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Old 23 April 2005, 06:41 PM
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tories are just sooooo desperate to get in that they will say whatever it takes to get votes, once in they will just do exactly what any of the others will have done

its all a load of bollocks
Old 23 April 2005, 06:46 PM
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You're right sticky ............

Vote Tory and waste a vote ....

Vote Labour and know what you are getting, you might not like it, but you KNOW what you can expect

Pete
Old 23 April 2005, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Vote Labour and know what you are getting, you might not like it, but you KNOW what you can expect
Old 23 April 2005, 06:51 PM
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Vote Labour and get more speed camera's, more tax increases, more illegal immigrants, more hospital infections, more control from europe, more crime more spin and more lies

Get less freedom of speech, less money in your pocket, less choice, less pension, less road building

Know what you going to get by all means

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Old 23 April 2005, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Adrian F
Vote Labour and get more speed camera's, more tax increases, more illegal immigrants, more hospital infections, more control from europe, more crime more spin and more lies

Get less freedom of speech, less money in your pocket, less choice, less pension, less road building

Know what you going to get by all means

Vote
Vote Tories and get what then???

All speed cameras demolished??

Tax halved??

N.I. Deleted??

A weekly 'gift' of £100 each??

Dream, dream on .........

Pete

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Old 23 April 2005, 06:56 PM
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pmsl @ weekly gift
Old 23 April 2005, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Vote Tories and get what then???

All speed cameras demolished??

Tax halved??
Get less speed cameras than you would under Labour, and get less tax than you would under Labour - simple.
Old 23 April 2005, 07:00 PM
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Not introducing road rape charges may well be the equivalent of a £100 weekly gift... sounds a much better idea than Labour's "bribe-a-chav" anti-truancy idea!
Old 23 April 2005, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Petem95
Get less speed cameras than you would under Labour, and get less tax than you would under Labour - simple.
Have you got a BIG arrow pointing to your head with MUG written on it???

You still believe in Santa don't you??

Pete
Old 23 April 2005, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
You still believe in Santa don't you??
Well Tony told me he exists, and he wouldnt lie right?..
Old 23 April 2005, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Petem95
Well Tony told me he exists, and he wouldnt lie right?..
You mis-understood what he said - ha said, "Santa will launch presents of mass delight in 45 minutes and must not be stopped"

The press have twisted those words ...

Pete
Old 23 April 2005, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Adrian F
less money in your pocket
PMSL
Old 23 April 2005, 07:42 PM
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In truth this may be more fundamental than who you vote for.

There is a well organised campaign against private transport, that is to say your ability to own and use a private car. This campaign is funded and driven (excuse the pun) by the usual suspects on the far left of politics plus the green movement.

These people will try to infulence the actions and decisions of any government that gets elected and they have already put "their people" in key positions with respect to transport policy. It must be said that they have had it slightly easier under Labour just because as a party Labour tend somewhat more to the left than the Tories. However, the Tories would come under the same pressure and would, by and large, cave in and make the same concessions.

The people involved in these unbrella organisations who crave control and who want us out of our cars should be who we are all fighting against. Almost everyone on this forum is on the same side in this battle, except for those who don't own a car and who don't wish to use private transport as a means to enrich and enhance their lives both socially and economically.

So, rather than fighting against each other we must be attempting to exert pressure upon the parties that we support to reject the advances of those who crave total control of our lives. Unless you do this then the far left, the Stalinists and the green nutters are going to win this election no matter who you vote for. With this I urge everyone to contact their local candidates and let them know that you want to be allowed to drive your car, have your own thoughts etc. etc. and that these things are important to you and you are expecting to see them do something about it.

Let's stop bickering over some personality cult and let's unite to identify the real enemy and to eliminate their infulence in the political arena. With the far left (or right, who can tell the difference between Stalin and Hitler?) and their associated hangers on such as the do-gooders and the green nuts taken out of politics then we can have a real political debate and a real democracy based upon real policies.
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I suppose one reason there are more hospital infections now is the increase in the number of patients seen. A few years back you'd probably wait 18 months just for a consultation, let alone a hospital visit
Old 23 April 2005, 08:20 PM
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Whats road tax for then??. certainly isn't being used for repairs, will soon be needing to drive something with tracks instead of tyres around Edinburgh with the amount of trenches in the road.
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Old 23 April 2005, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Oh, I will, and so will millions of others stand by me and the best leader the country has ever seen.
Gone blue, pete?

Never could have imagined we'd see you stood shoulder to shoulder with Lady Thatcher!
Old 24 April 2005, 12:53 AM
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At least the Tories wont employ half the country as civil servants sitting in offices producing pointless red tape.
Old 24 April 2005, 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Adrian F
At least the Tories wont employ half the country as civil servants sitting in offices producing pointless red tape.
I see, so who will fund these unemployment benefits then???



Typical Tory logic!!

Pete
Old 24 April 2005, 01:16 AM
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Yes makes sense Labour reduces unemployment by paying people 35K a year to sit in offices doing nothing productive rather than giving them 10K a year in benefits! No wonder they transferred decisions to The Bank of England they aren’t to be trusted with pocket money let alone the country.
Old 24 April 2005, 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I see, so who will fund these unemployment benefits then???



Typical Tory logic!!
So paying their salary out of our tax is different to paying their unemployment out of our tax then?

Perhaps just a few of them will even get a job in which they add to the tax take, not subtract from it!

Typical new labour logic
Old 24 April 2005, 01:27 AM
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We pay them £35k ..... which, lets face it, is a diabolical low wage!! ..... they then pay £15k in tax and NI.

They are happy to be working and feel confident, so spend money on Plasma screens, PC's, and yes, even Rover cars!!!! ALL TAXED!!

They end up costing NOTHING!!

Put them on the scrap heap and see what happens

The only way things will get better in the UK is for as many as possible to become Stakeholders in the community!

If that can be bought for a low wage like £35k, then I think we have got an absolute BARGAIN!

Vote Labour, Vote for the community!

Pete
Old 24 April 2005, 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
We pay them £35k ..... which, lets face it, is a diabolical low wage!! ..... they then pay £15k in tax and NI.

They are happy to be working and feel confident, so spend money on Plasma screens, PC's, and yes, even Rover cars!!!! ALL TAXED!!
Fantastic! Pete has found the solution!

Everybody stops working, the government just pays them £35k each to go out and buy plasma tvs and rover cars every year

You really don't understand the concept of earned wage do you Pete? As I said, typical new labour logic...
Old 24 April 2005, 01:38 AM
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They are 'doing' something

Come on, its only £35k ............

Pete
Old 24 April 2005, 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
They are 'doing' something

Come on, its only £35k ............

Pete
Tell you what Pete, lets not worry about everyone else. You give me £35k p.a. out of your spare cash, I promise to buy plasma tvs and rovers (might be easier said than done now of course), I'll do a handful of irrelevant/meangingless paperwork and give you the results.

According to your arguments, its a good deal.
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wandering off topic eh?

Bringing it back in have you seen page 17 of Lib Dem manifesto where they say road charging will replace VED and tax on petrol, this will be based on location congestion and pollution, now that seems eminently more sensible to me. dont pay flat rates for much else do we regardless of use?

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how can you say that £35K is a low wage ???? ,
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I prefer not to vote for a leader whom I know has been lying since he started out.

Les
Old 24 April 2005, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ73
how can you say that £35K is a low wage ???? ,
coz pete obviously is paid a hell of a lot more as Tony's "head of nuclear engineering"/"personal rectal pleasure device" designer, so he gets all the benefits of a top civil servant
bet he drives two jags too


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