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Old 24 February 2005, 03:18 PM
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The Lie: Labour is the party of equality and social justice. We believe that healthy citizens who are well-informed about their own health (and the choices that affect their wellbeing) and a National Health Service that is publicly funded, free at the point of need with equal access for everyone, irrespective of their wealth are prerequisites for the fairer society we are working towards.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4293765.stm
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Try reading beyond the first sentence:

But the figures suggested some of the rise may be down to better reporting of the bug.

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Its not as though they really care about the electorate anyway is it?

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Its not as though they really care about the electorate anyway is it?

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They never have done have they.

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Old 25 February 2005, 04:31 PM
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I guess it's one way of bringing down the waiting lists! Shipman did the same!
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Unclebuck.

Care to report the figures for non-NHS hospitals as well ?
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Old 25 February 2005, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DocJock
Unclebuck.

Care to report the figures for non-NHS hospitals as well ?
Since you ask:

"BMI Healthcare is one of the biggest private hospital groups in the UK, with 47 hospitals. During the course of a year, the group has a quarter of a million in-patients and three-quarters of a million out-patient visits. How many patients in BMI hospitals have acquired MRSA in the blood? None. In fact, over the years, the company has "never" had such a case."

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source: http://opinion.telegraph.co.uk/opini.../25/do2502.xml
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
Since you ask:

"BMI Healthcare is one of the biggest private hospital groups in the UK, with 47 hospitals. During the course of a year, the group has a quarter of a million in-patients and three-quarters of a million out-patient visits. How many patients in BMI hospitals have acquired MRSA in the blood? None. In fact, over the years, the company has "never" had such a case."

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source: http://opinion.telegraph.co.uk/opini.../25/do2502.xml
I'll do my own selective copy paste from the article. "There have indeed been cases of MRSA infections in BMI hospitals"
Old 25 February 2005, 09:11 PM
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I'll do my own selective copy paste from the article. "There have indeed been cases of MRSA infections in BMI hospitals"
That's not selective, that's an entire paragraph. Your's is only half a sentance - much like a New Labour slogan.

The entire sentance reads - "There have indeed been cases of MRSA infections in BMI hospitals but none have got to the bloodstream."

And goes on to say - "Even the non-bloodstream infections have reached only 0.02 per cent of BMI patients - less than one-thirtieth of the proportion of admissions to NHS hospitals which get any kind of MRSA."

Not looking to good for the pro NHS lobby, is it?
Old 28 February 2005, 02:38 AM
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Some NHS hospitals are now not undertaking (e.g. twice weekly) routine in-patient screening that used to pick up MRSA, that should help the figures...allegedly.
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Uncle Buck - with all due respect, your reasoning is completely flawed.

First of all MRSA is carried by a significant percentage of the general population who have never been anywhere near a hospital.

Second - that fact that no MRSA "blood poisoning" has been documented means very little. MRSA typically affects people who are systemically unwell and thus are prone to any infection - private hospitals have no ICU units etc and so very ill people tend to be found in NHS hospitals. Granted a lot of surgery does take place in private hospitals but once they pick up MRSA or whatever they are treated in a NHS hospital.

A number of people on this forum will have MRSA living up their nose etc and will never come to any harm from it.

The papers tend to sensationalise the whole issue and not give the full story by any means.
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