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Old 21 February 2005, 06:01 PM
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And probably 2 in 5 cars have cheepo budget tyres....

A Lethal combination
Old 21 February 2005, 06:07 PM
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"And the AA Motoring Trust warns that England's road network is broadly in the worst condition since records began in the 1970s."
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so where is gordon brown spending the £36 billion a year in fuel duty he rakes in?
Old 21 February 2005, 06:42 PM
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On putting up new cameras to generate more money.

Of course, all crashes - even at accident blackspots - are down to people creeping 0.1mph over the speed limit, and none are down to Cr*p roads, junctions or just poor driving.
Old 21 February 2005, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by hades
On putting up new cameras to generate more money.

Of course, all crashes - even at accident blackspots - are down to people creeping 0.1mph over the speed limit, and none are down to Cr*p roads, junctions or just poor driving.
Isn't speeding poor driving though???
Old 21 February 2005, 07:17 PM
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Are you surprised? This country seems to have a history of shambolic decisions at Government level under both parties.
My view is that this is due to making decisions based on the short rather than the long term.
However, I suspect that the Civil Service, which often makes the recommendations to ministers, does not emphasise the benefits of spending more now for long term benefit.
Old 21 February 2005, 07:22 PM
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But in a statement it said: "A number of factors would have to come together to make a road unsafe, including volumes of traffic, speeds and the nature of the road itself...Just because roads have reached a level requiring further investigation, it doesn't necessarily mean they are unsafe."
Equally then, speeding on a well designed, high grip road with little traffic flow doesn't necessarily make it unsafe then surely?!
Old 21 February 2005, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BOB.T
Equally then, speeding on a well designed, high grip road with little traffic flow doesn't necessarily make it unsafe then surely?!
Totally logical. However, when was logic ever a part of government and their decisions?
Old 21 February 2005, 07:45 PM
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Note to self: Stop using common sense where politics are in involved!
Old 21 February 2005, 09:23 PM
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It sounds like the new surfaces that are talked about in that report are the very same ones that are much nicer to drive on. For example, the Newbury Bypass when it was new had an uncanny quietness to the surface, and is still not bad.

A road near where I live was fully resurfaced to have the new quiet, smooth surface, then a few months later they came and sprinkled rocks and tar all over it, while changing it to a 30 limit. For a while it was smooth, fast and quiet. Now it is bumpy and noisy. But better skid resistance I suppose...
Old 21 February 2005, 09:33 PM
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They have been lowering the grip given by road surfaces and tyres for years under EU directives to cut noise polution. The legislators would rather have quiet roads rather than safe ones. Nut's but true.
Old 21 February 2005, 09:51 PM
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you can buy the book about it if you like, its only £150.

http://www.informex.info/html/book__...ad_noise_.html
Old 21 February 2005, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by kingofturds
"And the AA Motoring Trust warns that England's road network is broadly in the worst condition since records began in the 1970s."
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so where is gordon brown spending the £36 billion a year in fuel duty he rakes in?
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Old 21 February 2005, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim-Grove
Isn't speeding poor driving though???
No, inappropriate speed for the conditions is poor driving
Old 22 February 2005, 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by kingofturds
so where is gordon brown spending the £36 billion a year in fuel duty he rakes in?
According to the BBC article...

The government would not accept that road repairs are in crisis, saying it was committed to spending more than £31bn over a 10-year period.
So there you have it - we give the government FORTY-ODD BILLION A YEAR in car related taxes, and we get nine-months contributions back spread over ten years.

Unbelievable

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Old 22 February 2005, 09:55 AM
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I read somewhere that some of the new surfacing materials seep some kind of oil for some time after they are laid and are slippery because of that. We had a young chap killed recently near here because of a slippery new surface in dry weather.

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