16vmarc

A guy at work got a warning last year off Customs & Excise for the tabbaco he was bringing into the country and selling. His car was seized as was his wifes moped, as she was going round delivering it! He carried on selling it though and has been "grassed up" as the saying goes. He was in court yesterday for a formal hearing and is in court properly tomorrow. Both him and his wife have being told to expect atleast 6 months, and to make matters worse work have terminated his employment and he will have to sell his house for the alleged 500k he owes, not that his house is worht anything near this! All this for what is essentially tax evasion!

Brendan Hughes

And?

16vmarc

I heard he was ******** your mum, so thought youd like to know.

Doc

Sounds fair enough to me. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. I'm fed up with the black economy. It just results in everyone else having to pay more tax.

Fuzz

Sensible but up for a quick buck person would stop after being caught...

No sympathy what so ever. just like the drunk retard that killed his new girlfriend on his defective bike. (old news but was trotted out on tv again the other night)

Andy

astraboy

hey if he thinks he can make a quick buck by cheating the system, then he cant complain when it all goes **** up and he gets in trouble.
Your friends biggest problems seems to have been getting himself caught.
and if hes dumb enough to let that happen then he deserves everything he gets.
astraboy.

David Lock

At least he looked after his wife well. Moped

ALi-B

iTrader: (1)

I can see the point on how you see it is a harsh sentence..

From the point of view that the 15yr old who nicked you car and ran over two pensioners whilst drunk and drugged gets a communitity service order.

Makes me wonder how smuggling and tax evasion is worse than theft and manslaughter? Still, that's the logical and sensical balance of the judicial system for you

Anyway...Customs and excise - do not mess with them - ever, because they take no prisoners (pun semi-intended )

Pauleds2

Tough ****.We all have to make a legitimate living so why should he earn a fortune tax free?

Jamie

Two months max if he has a good solicitor
then he n his wife can become pikeys for a week or so

Freak

getting caught once- stupid
getting caught twice- really stupid

dont drop the soap

Iwan

A bloke at my work got caught selling a few years ago. Not sure if he got sent down as i didn't know him very well, but i remember C&E paying him a visit and searching his locker.

He was openly flogging them to blokes in my dept on a daily basis, and when C&E opened his locker it was stacked full (it was a big locker too!). Pretty sure someone had grassed him up.

You've got to be pretty dumb to do this in a big way, especially carrying on after being caught and warned.

I believe C&E are unique in that they don't need to get a warrant for entry/search, they have a special dispensation or something?

r32

They know what to expect, particularly after being caught once. Dont think its harsh.
But I appreciate the comment about burglars, manslaughter, death by dangerous driving etc.
Must be something to do with the State (Labour State) and money, their money.

PG

He was lucky enough to get a warning the first time.....

555wrx

Tough **** on him, I have to pay taxes, and I get fines and penalties for late payment, so why should he get away with not paying at all?
Would you be so sympathetic with him if his little sideline was knocking of scoobies, after all, that too is a crime?

Jye

If **** werent priced so extortionately no one would bother 'smuggling', a bit like any other drug really. For every one person who gets cought another 100 wont. It seems just about everyone who smokes either buys from folk like this fella or know loads of others who do. Loads of drug dealers have turned to smuggling **** now as the profits are larger, go figure whether HMG have set the tax burden at the right level.

ajm

Still illegal though Jye, right? Just like hunting!

fast bloke

theft and manslaughter don't cost Gordo anything from his balance sheet

Leslie

Yes thats the point exactly, if you try to get away with taxes etc which they think they should have then the penalties always seem comparatively heavy compared with vandalism to people's property or causing death or injury to them.

Les

OllyK

There are other people who C&E persecute. A friend went abroad in her car, first time abroad. She goes with a friend, both are smokers and drinkers and they load up on goods for themselves, neither go nuts (say 1000 **** each and several crates of beer). Customs won't let them back in the country (despite being within the limits set by the EU) as they claim there is too much for personal consumption (If your a 20 a day bod that's not even 2 months supply). They are ofered the opportunity to pay the duty etc on ALL of it or loose ALL of it. They kick up a fuss, car AND goods impounded and they are dropped off outside Dover docks with no transport and no goods. Car is still impounded in Dover, 2 years on and after an apeal. Just hope with the "changes" that C&E have been told to make with regard to their droconian measures that she may finally get the car back.

hawkthescoobslayer

i'm afraid he deserves everything he gets IMHO..... I pay my taxes he doesn't

if he brought it in for his own use but to sell it and get his wife to deliver.... well maybe after 6 months and a huge financial loss he will see the error of his ways


Hawk

16vmarc

The result:

- Both got 6 months each
- Lost their home
- Lost apartment in Tenerife
- Car confiscated
- Moped confiscated
- Ordered to repay 95k each by december
- Lost his job
- Life savings taken away

Cheated the tax payer out of 113,711
Netted 225,803

PG

lesson learnt then

douglasb

£113,711? That wasn't just coming back from France with a few extra **** over the recommended limits, was it? That seems like pretty serious evasion.


Was that £113,711 that they proved for this offence? I guess that as C&E can't prove how much they'd already ripped off before he had the first warning and between the warning and the conviction, it is safe to assume that they'd taken about 1/4 million.

If so, it seems fair to me.