View Poll Results: What should have happened with the G4 detainee's - broadly speaking.....
They should have 'accidently fallen' from the plane mid-atlantic
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74.19%
They should have been welcomed back with open arms
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8.06%
I don't give a toss either way
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17.74%
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OK-The Guantanamo 4 - to sort it out once & for all
OK-The Guantanamo 4 - to sort it out once & for all
27 January 2005, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Dracoro
Exactly.
What about options for those that do give a toss and don't have polarised views?
What about options for those that do give a toss and don't have polarised views?
27 January 2005, 02:46 PM
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What about "I don't trust the Americans to get the "evidence" right and they shouldn't have locked up these poor sods for 3 years like they did"
27 January 2005, 02:48 PM
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Is this like the new poll on the EU constitution?
a) yes I'd love it and I think Blair should be President
b) I'm an illiterate *******, what was the question?
a) yes I'd love it and I think Blair should be President
b) I'm an illiterate *******, what was the question?
27 January 2005, 02:49 PM
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oh yes,those poor sods that went to the Spar for a pint of milk but accidently found themselves in Afghanistan pointing a gun at the Americans.Personallly,I don't see what all the fuss is about,suspected terrorists were interned for much longer in NI.
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27 January 2005, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Dracoro
Exactly.
What about options for those that do give a toss and don't have polarised views?
What about options for those that do give a toss and don't have polarised views?
27 January 2005, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Flatcapdriver
You can't make it too complicated because this would force people to apply a little logic and actually think the issue through instead of making knee jerk opinions with little or no facts to support them.
well said,
should of let them rot in jail over there
27 January 2005, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by taffyboyo
well said,
should of let them rot in jail over there
should of let them rot in jail over there
27 January 2005, 03:54 PM
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What a well thought out and unbaised poll 
How about:
Option 1: They should be allowed a right to a trial in their own country
Option 2: They should be locked up without trial or legal representation
Option 3: They should murdered by throwing them out of a plane
How about:
Option 1: They should be allowed a right to a trial in their own country
Option 2: They should be locked up without trial or legal representation
Option 3: They should murdered by throwing them out of a plane
27 January 2005, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BOB'5
What a well thought out and unbaised poll
How about:
Option 1: They should be allowed a right to a trial in their own country
Option 2: They should be locked up without trial or legal representation
Option 3: They should murdered by throwing them out of a plane
How about:
Option 1: They should be allowed a right to a trial in their own country
Option 2: They should be locked up without trial or legal representation
Option 3: They should murdered by throwing them out of a plane
27 January 2005, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BOB'5
What a well thought out and unbaised poll
How about:
Option 1: They should be allowed a right to a trial in their own country
Option 2: They should be locked up without trial or legal representation
Option 3: They should murdered by throwing them out of a plane
How about:
Option 1: They should be allowed a right to a trial in their own country
Option 2: They should be locked up without trial or legal representation
Option 3: They should murdered by throwing them out of a plane
Option 4: They Should be delt with by the country where they were first picked up in a way seen fit by that country
Maybe that will help reduce the bias even further
27 January 2005, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by bigJoe
Don't forget to add:
Option 4: They Should be delt with by the country where they were first picked up in a way seen fit by that country
Maybe that will help reduce the bias even further
Option 4: They Should be delt with by the country where they were first picked up in a way seen fit by that country
Maybe that will help reduce the bias even further
Tend to agree with you on the Pakistan and African one though. Still not quite sure how they ended up being passed to the US without any evidence having been found at that point anyway. If there was evidence why wasn't it used to press charges?
27 January 2005, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
Unless the country they were caught in was Afghanistan which was to all intents and purposes under US juristiction anyway?
Tend to agree with you on the Pakistan and African one though. Still not quite sure how they ended up being passed to the US without any evidence having been found at that point anyway. If there was evidence why wasn't it used to press charges?
Tend to agree with you on the Pakistan and African one though. Still not quite sure how they ended up being passed to the US without any evidence having been found at that point anyway. If there was evidence why wasn't it used to press charges?
From my point of view, my option would make it fine for the suspects to be handed over for extradtion to anywhere - like I said - it's up to the countries concerned how to handle them (or pass them on).
Yes, being caught in Afganistan when the taliban were "in power" would mean you would be at the mercy of the American legal system (the taliban weren't recognised as legit by the UN)
We don't know if charges were filed under the rule of law that applies at Guantanimo, but they were held under US law charged or not
27 January 2005, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bigJoe
We don't know if charges were filed under the rule of law that applies at Guantanimo, but they were held under US law charged or not
27 January 2005, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Buckrogers
I think you'll find that they were not held under "US Law", thats why the USA put them in Guantanimo because its outside of US Law....
27 January 2005, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by tiggers
Err... I think you missed the sarcasm of Flatcapdriver's post!!
Why did you have to spoil the fun?
Err... I think you all missed the sarcasm of my post
Err... I think you missed the sarcasm of Flatcapdriver's post!!
Why did you have to spoil the fun?
Err... I think you all missed the sarcasm of my post
27 January 2005, 11:46 PM
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What an informed debate. "caught in Afghanistan pointing guns at Americans" I think someone said.
Martin Mubanga - Arrested in Zambia after spending time in Pakistan
Moazzam Begg - Lived in Afghanistan and fled the country when the Yanks started bombing. Arrested in Pakistan.
Richard Belmar - Arrested in Pakistan
Feroz Abassi - Arrested near the border of Pakistan/Afghanistan while travelling.
Martin Mubanga - Arrested in Zambia after spending time in Pakistan
Moazzam Begg - Lived in Afghanistan and fled the country when the Yanks started bombing. Arrested in Pakistan.
Richard Belmar - Arrested in Pakistan
Feroz Abassi - Arrested near the border of Pakistan/Afghanistan while travelling.
