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Old 27 January 2005, 02:05 AM
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Default Butterfly knives.

The type where the handles move around the blade.

Cant find any, where can I buy one?
Old 27 January 2005, 02:15 AM
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Offensive weapon.

You'll get nicked.
Old 27 January 2005, 07:25 AM
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Correct - if you are found with one you are in deep do-do.


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Old 27 January 2005, 08:11 AM
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France. Also flick knives, which are illegal to buy, but NOT illegal to sell, and any number of knives from 2" serrated edge jobs as used by Hannibal Lecter, to 14" Bowies, all apparently legal to buy.

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Old 27 January 2005, 08:18 AM
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I have one had it for years the wife now uses it at the farm to open bales of hay/straw with !!!
Old 27 January 2005, 09:06 AM
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Are Machetes illegal as well? I don't carry it around like, but it's nice to know whether I'll get nicked or not....
Old 27 January 2005, 09:23 AM
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Old 27 January 2005, 09:34 AM
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Out of interest-what do you want it for?
Old 27 January 2005, 10:14 AM
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innit, the butterfly knife was created for the sole purpose of stabbing people.
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Old 27 January 2005, 10:38 AM
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This wouldn't be related to your American Psycho thread by any chance, would it?
Old 27 January 2005, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Franx
Are Machetes illegal as well? I don't carry it around like, but it's nice to know whether I'll get nicked or not....
Not illegal to own, illegal to carry.

I know someone (ex US Special Forces) who was nicked in Safeways for pulling a machete on someone he had a disagreement with. He also used to drive around with a mossberg shotgun in the passenger footwell of his car... a complete loon.

He didn't go down for it (the machete), but it was a close thing!
Old 27 January 2005, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ajm
Not illegal to own, illegal to carry.

I know someone (ex US Special Forces) who was nicked in Safeways for pulling a machete on someone he had a disagreement with. He also used to drive around with a mossberg shotgun in the passenger footwell of his car... a complete loon.

He didn't go down for it (the machete), but it was a close thing!
You have an unhealthy obsession with weapons, see a doctor.
Old 27 January 2005, 11:37 AM
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Ask any chav in middlesbrough, he will sell you his girlfriends one.
Old 27 January 2005, 11:43 AM
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A machette isn't illegal to own or carry. I popped in to a Police station to ask as I wanted to carry one to a memoribillia show.

As long as it was on show it was ok. If it was in my bag then it would have been classed as a concealed weapon. I would also have needed to tell the local Police station aswell as the local security.

Gardeners can carry machettes.
Old 27 January 2005, 11:46 AM
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"A machette isn't illegal to own or carry."

No knife is actually illegal to own.

You can carry any knife on you as long as you have a legal excuse. It's just proving it, really.

If you're caught in possession of a machete you have to justify to the officer that's stopped you. If you can't, you'll be arrested and then will have to justify to a court.
Old 27 January 2005, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by brezhnev
You have an unhealthy obsession with weapons, see a doctor.
Oh a new username. Anyone I know?
Old 27 January 2005, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ajm
Oh a new username. Anyone I know?
Possibly, as you appear to spend most of your life on here and appear to have no record of having any mates apart from machete wielding psychos.
Old 27 January 2005, 12:55 PM
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I don't personnaly know ajm, am I a MWP?
Old 27 January 2005, 01:07 PM
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Chaos, although these are refered to as Butterfly knives, the proper name for these are "Balisong" knives. I had 2 of these (my mate lost one). I purchased from a martial art shop back in the 80s. Also have other weapons of orient origin. I did post a picture somethime ago. Doubt you'll get anything like that now unless you try and mail oder from somewhere.

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Old 27 January 2005, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by brezhnev
Possibly, as you appear to spend most of your life on here and appear to have no record of having any mates apart from machete wielding psychos.
The record remains unchanged then, I didn't say he was a friend.
Old 27 January 2005, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by theotherphil
Incredible, a BBS to discuss knives...

I was always under the impression that these things were specifically illegal, like flick-knives. I had a quick flick through it, but couldn't find anything. Be curious to see.
Old 27 January 2005, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Brendan Hughes
Incredible, a BBS to discuss knives...
It is possible to collect knives without being a maniac you know!

I was always under the impression that these things were specifically illegal, like flick-knives. I had a quick flick through it, but couldn't find anything. Be curious to see.
Flick knives, butterfly knives etc are illegal as per offensive weapons act 1959
Old 27 January 2005, 01:36 PM
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Do you have the exact wording? Just like to see why its them and not kitchen knives, survival knives, lock knives etc. What's the key distinction?

I saw something on the site about "combat" knives. Suggests that damn near every army surplus shop in the UK is breaking the law daily
Old 27 January 2005, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Brendan Hughes
Do you have the exact wording? Just like to see why its them and not kitchen knives, survival knives, lock knives etc. What's the key distinction?

I saw something on the site about "combat" knives. Suggests that damn near every army surplus shop in the UK is breaking the law daily
No knife is strictly illegal. You can have any knife as long as it's not in a public place. It's illegal to sell flick knives, but you can have one in your home.

The only legal knives that you can have in public are those with non-locking blades that are 3" or under(swiss army type).

To have any other knife in public requires a lawful reason.
Old 27 January 2005, 02:46 PM
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Must be the sales thing I was thinking of then. Fair enough.
Old 27 January 2005, 03:09 PM
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I've known a few guys in the military that insist on having machetes and/or big knives on their webbing, which was often left in the boot of their car. Completely unnecessary, they just wanted to look hard and Rambo-ish. You could also legitimately have a bayonet on your webbing. You would look a bit silly walking around Safeways with military webbing on though. I suspect the old bill might want a word also.

I managed to get by with a Swiss Army knife and/or a Leatherman tool.
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Originally Posted by Brendan Hughes
Do you have the exact wording? Just like to see why its them and not kitchen knives, survival knives, lock knives etc. What's the key distinction?

I saw something on the site about "combat" knives. Suggests that damn near every army surplus shop in the UK is breaking the law daily
They do specifically state that flick knives are prohibited (actual ownership may not be though, just every conceivable way you would get one!)

Any knife which has a blade which opens automatically by hand pressure applied to a button, spring or other device in or attached to the handle of the knife.
Check out here for others that are banned by various acts:

http://www.bkcg.co.uk/guide/prohibited/

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Old 27 January 2005, 05:04 PM
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Excellent, many thanks ajm, that's a great page. I notice that import and sale of balisong is prohibited - yeah, right.
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why on earth would you want a knife like that anyway???

Congrats on acquiring another stalker ajm
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Congrats on acquiring another stalker ajm
Thanks!

Don't know why all the weirdos make a beeline for me!


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