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Old 26 January 2005, 03:32 PM
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My Political leanings are not important with regard to this issue. Labour will win again it is obvious really. Anyone and everyone who has purchased more than one property wants the status quo to continue. No one with there majority of investment for the future based in property is going to want to risk it collasping by voting anyone else into office. Besides most of the Partys are to similer to offer any majorly noticeable difference in management of the UK. Is my view accurate of how things stand?
Old 26 January 2005, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by blueone
My Political leanings are not important with regard to this issue. Labour will win again it is obvious really. Anyone and everyone who has purchased more than one property wants the status quo to continue. No one with there majority of investment for the future based in property is going to want to risk it collasping by voting anyone else into office. Besides most of the Partys are to similer to offer any majorly noticeable difference in management of the UK. Is my view accurate of how things stand?
No. It's not accurate. By your reasoning, if the main Parties are too similar to offer any noticeable difference in their policies then exchanging the Labour Party for the Tories will have no effect on the property markets. Therefore the status quo will remain.
Old 26 January 2005, 03:50 PM
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In other words who ever gets in means we are all screwed! LOL
Old 26 January 2005, 04:00 PM
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...which leads to voter apathy. People thinking 'why bother voting as it won't change anything'.

A slogan a friend of mine spouts when I tell him I can't be bothered to do something, 'Apathy.....because the easiest thing to do is nothing'.

About sums up the state of a lot of the voters
Old 26 January 2005, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by blueone
In other words who ever gets in means we are all screwed! LOL
Cue music: "same as it ever was, same as it ever was!"

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Old 26 January 2005, 04:03 PM
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What voters want is a box to tick that says none of the above. Get rid of party politics. No need for this outdated system of representation in this modern age of high speed communication.
Old 26 January 2005, 04:05 PM
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i think you are wrong, i think when the next election happens more voters will turn up, than in the last few elections which has had an appaling turn out.

And people who own more than one property who may want the status quo to continue are not the majority, and I would guess that most property owners have been hurt considerbly worse in other investments and tax areas because of this labour government.

And most people are not stupid enough to belive that a government has an effect on worldwide economics and to the end degree the housing market, if they did they have either screwed something up or been exceptional and the labour government has been neither they should not be applauded for the housing boom or the sky high prices as they did not create or diffuse the situation.

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Old 26 January 2005, 04:10 PM
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Labour will win again and heres why...

"Earlier this week, the Ernst & Young Item Club group of economists also said taxes would have to rise after the general election to fill a hole in UK public finances."

"Mr Blair would need to announced fresh tax increases worth at least £11bn to pay for his spending plan.

"And those are not my words. They are the words of the independent Institute For Fiscal Studies. Their warning is simple: Blair in, taxes up, again."



People in this country have lost the plot.
Old 26 January 2005, 04:15 PM
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Most people know that the country is in a great shape and that our leader has affected the worlds economy to a great extent. You only have to look at all the oil pouring out of Iraq which is being used to keep the huge US economy afloat to realise that Tone is one shrewed cookie when it comes to keeping our economy going. The Policy of Labour really is affecting our Mezzo and Micro exsistence in a positive way.
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jesus so labour have squandered a £20 billion financial nest egg and provided as with a substational economic debt,

they should not only be ousted at the next election they should be made to pay back every single penny of our money they have wasted.
Old 26 January 2005, 04:19 PM
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Anyone got any figures on how much the Iraq campaign has cost the UK so far. It must be money well spent. We are going to see a return on the investment our nation has made for sure.
Old 26 January 2005, 04:21 PM
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the house price situation isnt really to do with the government per se, its more to do with the fact that its hard to build new houses due to planning restrictions, the population is growing (mainly by immigration but thats another story), and more people are living on their own. So increasing demand, and not really much supply.... Plus all the buy to let investors of course.....
Old 26 January 2005, 04:23 PM
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So, is there another way? LOL
Old 26 January 2005, 04:31 PM
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well thats the real problem isnt it, the lack of alternatives...
Old 26 January 2005, 04:37 PM
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Now we are getting somewhere.
Lack of alternate = lack of interest
hence why Labour will get back in
QED
Old 26 January 2005, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by blueone
Now we are getting somewhere.
Lack of alternate = lack of interest
hence why Labour will get back in
QED
Quite. That particular mantra is clear evidence that whoever says it has not looked at or doesn't understand the alternatives.
Old 26 January 2005, 04:43 PM
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The alternative:

http://www.conservatives.com/tile.do...y.listing.page
Old 26 January 2005, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by blueone
Most people know that the country is in a great shape and that our leader has affected the worlds economy to a great extent. You only have to look at all the oil pouring out of Iraq which is being used to keep the huge US economy afloat to realise that Tone is one shrewed cookie when it comes to keeping our economy going. The Policy of Labour really is affecting our Mezzo and Micro exsistence in a positive way.

You get your politics from the television, rather than from reading, don't you?
Old 26 January 2005, 04:46 PM
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Show me the money. Is that not the expression voters want to have answered. I can see it now, Labour will win and then a few months later Tone will step down for health reasons and allow Brown to have the power he craves. LOL
Old 26 January 2005, 04:47 PM
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I really should put signs up to indicate my bait...
Old 26 January 2005, 04:49 PM
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is it just me that is seeing the sarcasm in blueone's posts?
Old 26 January 2005, 04:52 PM
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Paul, i've heard genuine Labour supporters on here saying *exactly* the same things...!
Old 26 January 2005, 04:58 PM
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Sorry I have been told that I am sarcastic in the past....







I should say it is bloody fun to be as well!
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i can see that.
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Originally Posted by blueone
Besides most of the Partys are to similer to offer any majorly noticeable difference in management of the UK. Is my view accurate of how things stand?

Pretty much so,yes.There are slight differences,but nothing major,so in circumstances like that people tend to stick with what they know.
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Originally Posted by Flatcapdriver
No. It's not accurate. By your reasoning, if the main Parties are too similar to offer any noticeable difference in their policies then exchanging the Labour Party for the Tories will have no effect on the property markets. Therefore the status quo will remain.
Well changing from Tory to Labour made no difference in policies, so it seems a reasonable argument to me.


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Originally Posted by blueone
What voters want is a box to tick that says none of the above. Get rid of party politics. No need for this outdated system of representation in this modern age of high speed communication.
You can have a box which says 'None of the above' and you'll still get the same turnout.
Old 26 January 2005, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by blueone
My Political leanings are not important with regard to this issue. Labour will win again it is obvious really. Anyone and everyone who has purchased more than one property wants the status quo to continue. No one with there majority of investment for the future based in property is going to want to risk it collasping by voting anyone else into office. Besides most of the Partys are to similer to offer any majorly noticeable difference in management of the UK. Is my view accurate of how things stand?
Exactly how high do you think the percentage of the UK populatin has a second property?
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Labour WILL win - of that there is no question

The country is just in the best shape it has been in for a generation

Voter apathy will cost all parties votes - more so the party everyone expects to win (Labour) .... but, even apathy cannot hope to get the Tories back in

Even if just 10% turn out then its still representative of those who cared enough to actually get off their 4rse and do something

To the poster above who asks for a 'None-of-the-Above' box ..... there IS one! Just spoil the paper (write on it NONE) - at least you bothered to use the vote that good people died for

Pete
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Originally Posted by pslewis
To the poster above who asks for a 'None-of-the-Above' box ..... there IS one! Just spoil the paper (write on it NONE) - at least you bothered to use the vote that good people died for

Pete
For once I actually agree Mr Lewis.

Voting should be a legal requirement.


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