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Old 20 January 2005, 10:18 AM
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Hi

I was sold an item and photos were sent to me by email. The item turned up and it's damaged. Now looking back at the photos it's very clear to see that the photos have actually been photoshopped to cover up the damage

I can't go into any more details I'm afraid but I now need to know where I stand. I tried contacting the guy but there's been no reply yet.

Thanks for your advice

Paul
Old 20 January 2005, 10:31 AM
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Trading standards, contact your local Council to see if they have a trading standards officer you can speak with.
Old 20 January 2005, 10:31 AM
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If via e-bay then tell them.

If a private sale from a paper then goto cab.
Old 20 January 2005, 10:33 AM
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Will an email with photoshopped pictures hold up as evidence though? I still have the original email from the guy.

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Old 20 January 2005, 10:35 AM
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what was the item?
Old 20 January 2005, 10:35 AM
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Yes it will, I submitted e-mails in my case.

& No i still haven't got all my money
Old 20 January 2005, 10:40 AM
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j4amo, ya nosey begger

do you know the guys address? if so ask him if he'd like a game of baseball

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Old 20 January 2005, 10:49 AM
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I can't go into any more details I'm afraid
reading between the lines - it was from someone on SN wasn't it...
Old 20 January 2005, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
j4amo, ya nosey begger

do you know the guys address? if so ask him if he'd like a game of baseball
only cus i asked before you

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Old 20 January 2005, 10:58 AM
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I should take some photo's to show the damage from the same angle as the "fixed" ones if you can, might need that as evidence. I understand that digital photo's are not admissable in court though, so your photo's should be normal negative types.

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Old 20 January 2005, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by TaviaRS
Yes it will, I submitted e-mails in my case.

& No i still haven't got all my money
I was hoping that I could do that.

I had a feeling that you wouldn't get anymore money from him

Originally Posted by messiah
reading between the lines - it was from someone on SN wasn't it...
I really can't say.

Originally Posted by Leslie
I should take some photo's to show the damage from the same angle as the "fixed" ones if you can, might need that as evidence. I understand that digital photo's are not admissable in court though, so your photo's should be normal negative types.

Les
Hi Les

I now have more digital photos of the damge but getting ordinary ones won't be any problem. What about his doctored photos though?

I've just been on the phone to the bank and the cheque cleared last week and there's nothing I can do about it now
Old 20 January 2005, 12:47 PM
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I've sent him an email now telling him that I'm not happy with his doctored photos and that I'm seeking legal advice. I doubt he'll respond though

What do I need to do though because the guy is at the opposite end of the country to me Surely that'd make it difficult to take him to court?
Old 20 January 2005, 12:50 PM
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Difficult, but not impossible.

If you contact Trading Standards, you will need to contact his local authority, not yours.

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Old 20 January 2005, 01:07 PM
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http://www.courtservice.gov.uk/mcol/
Old 20 January 2005, 01:07 PM
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Right that's a good start. Are they easy to deal with?
Old 20 January 2005, 01:13 PM
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Trouble is this ........ there is a doubt over who actually 'photoshopped' the photos isn't there? I am playing devils advocate here.

Name and shame I reckon would hurt much more!

Pete
Old 20 January 2005, 01:15 PM
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Paul,

I saw the photo of the item the other day...

If i had bought them, I too would be extremely pi$$ed off at having been done over, and the guy shouldn't be allowed to just get away with it...

But, at the end of the day, is it really worth pursuing this guy through the courts?

IMHO, it would be less stressful to just have them reconditioned, and then you know you will have a set in top condition.

Gutted for you though

Richard
Old 20 January 2005, 01:16 PM
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Wheels?
Old 20 January 2005, 01:17 PM
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Gold Wheels???

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Old 20 January 2005, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Gold Wheels???

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lol
Old 20 January 2005, 01:18 PM
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Did he photoshop them SILVER and they turned up GOLD!!

OMG you will be seen as a POOFTA!!

NOW I understand why you are mad!!

Pete
Old 20 January 2005, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Trouble is this ........ there is a doubt over who actually 'photoshopped' the photos isn't there? I am playing devils advocate here.

Name and shame I reckon would hurt much more!

Pete
not allowed to do that on S/N
Old 20 January 2005, 01:21 PM
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Yes, but ..............

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Old 20 January 2005, 01:23 PM
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id say name and shame also, at the end of the day it stops other innocent people getting stung by this person.

then again, would you be allowed to do this being a mod?

pm me his name ile name and shame the gimp.

jamo
Old 20 January 2005, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Yes, but ..............

Pete
BUT its not like i have never seen it. just get zapped after a while......
Old 20 January 2005, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by j4mou
id say name and shame also, at the end of the day it stops other innocent people getting stung by this person.

then again, would you be allowed to do this being a mod?

pm me his name ile name and shame the gimp.

jamo
The rules of the forum state that any user isn't allowed to name and shame so it's a definate no no for me On a personal note I agree though.
Old 20 January 2005, 01:30 PM
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Do the rules allow you to pm people to warn them, personally?

If so ...... pm EVERYONE!!

Let me know the name by pm if allowed - I don't want to get caught out

Pete
Old 20 January 2005, 01:31 PM
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report him to the webmaster and get him banned for using his account to sell faulty/damaged goods?

j
Old 20 January 2005, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by fiestaboy
Paul,

I saw the photo of the item the other day...

If i had bought them, I too would be extremely pi$$ed off at having been done over, and the guy shouldn't be allowed to just get away with it...

But, at the end of the day, is it really worth pursuing this guy through the courts?

IMHO, it would be less stressful to just have them reconditioned, and then you know you will have a set in top condition.

Gutted for you though

Richard
The guy shouldn't be allowed to get away with it I've just sent an email to his local trading standards to see if they can give me any advice.

Isn't sending doctored photos of an item like that obtaining money by deception? Surely it's fraudulent? Would the Police want to know?

Thanks
Old 20 January 2005, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by j4mou
report him to the webmaster and get him banned for using his account to sell faulty/damaged goods?

j
I haven't stated that it is anyone on here


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