Its difficult braking going sideways!
18 January 2005, 09:03 AM
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Its difficult braking going sideways!
Hi peeps,
Just shat myself good and proper on a bend. Basically on a road alongside the M53 there is a backroad and shortcut that crosses the motorway, some of you may know it. Anyhow I was coming up to it, not going fast at all, or acting like a tit. It was snowing ffs. Perhaps 15 mph. Next thing I know, the car is skidding across the double solid white, as in right over. Im there stamping on the brake but nothing is happening. Obviously when you are going sideways you have no brakes but its instinct and its scary. Serious question, in such instances how are you supposed to recover it, ie control the skid ?
Luckily I didnt hit anything and there was nothing coming the other way, thank god. I just ended up looking a bit of a tit, could have been a lot worse.
Just shat myself good and proper on a bend. Basically on a road alongside the M53 there is a backroad and shortcut that crosses the motorway, some of you may know it. Anyhow I was coming up to it, not going fast at all, or acting like a tit. It was snowing ffs. Perhaps 15 mph. Next thing I know, the car is skidding across the double solid white, as in right over. Im there stamping on the brake but nothing is happening. Obviously when you are going sideways you have no brakes but its instinct and its scary. Serious question, in such instances how are you supposed to recover it, ie control the skid ?
Luckily I didnt hit anything and there was nothing coming the other way, thank god. I just ended up looking a bit of a tit, could have been a lot worse.
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18 January 2005, 10:15 AM
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Unfortunately once you're sideways there's very little that will stop you, apart from friction or a solid object.
If there is snow on the ground then you ain't going to find a lot of friction; a typical four wheel drive recovery technique would be to plant the throttle, keep the front wheel straight, and hope that it pulls you out.
Its not as easy as it sounds, you have to have a fair amount of courage to boot it when its already out of shape, especially if you weren't expecting it.
Unfortunately at 15mph you probably won't have enough torque to be of any use.
If there is snow on the ground then you ain't going to find a lot of friction; a typical four wheel drive recovery technique would be to plant the throttle, keep the front wheel straight, and hope that it pulls you out.
Its not as easy as it sounds, you have to have a fair amount of courage to boot it when its already out of shape, especially if you weren't expecting it.
Unfortunately at 15mph you probably won't have enough torque to be of any use.
18 January 2005, 10:47 AM
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Come Off the brakes completely, steer into the slide, and apply LIGHT throttle. Or take your chances and dip the clutch.
Commng tottally off the throttle will continue the slide due to engine braking...and that lovely rear LSD on scoobs linking both rear wheels together (which makes it worse).
Your weren't in 1st gear by per chance?
Commng tottally off the throttle will continue the slide due to engine braking...and that lovely rear LSD on scoobs linking both rear wheels together (which makes it worse).
Your weren't in 1st gear by per chance?
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18 January 2005, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Stueyb
Obviously when you are going sideways you have no brakes but its instinct and its scary.
Seriously, the main advantage of 4WD is traction, but for this to come into play you need power, so as others have indicated, you'll need some throttle. Best thing to do is try and get the front wheels pointing in the direction you'd like to travel and then give it some throttle, if there is any grip available the 4WD will find it for you, if not.....well
Its very easy all of us saying what you should do, but as you've said- it's a different story when you're actually in the situation. Ideally, we'd all need some practice in a nice safe environment.Glad you and the car are ok.
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18 January 2005, 11:23 AM
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If you are sideways on, the wheels are acting as though you had locked up the brakes going forward anyway.
Never possible to generalise about the recovery action unless you are on the spot.
Les
Never possible to generalise about the recovery action unless you are on the spot.
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18 January 2005, 11:26 AM
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Spent the last 2 days fishtailing in the snow as I drive a BMW 328. RWD and too much power going to them. Easy enough controlled as long as you have forward movement, ready for it and a controllable speed. But if its sideways all you can do is think about what cleaner will take the **** stains out the seats
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19 January 2005, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Alas
Spent the last 2 days fishtailing in the snow as I drive a BMW 328. RWD and too much power going to them. Easy enough controlled as long as you have forward movement, ready for it and a controllable speed. But if its sideways all you can do is think about what cleaner will take the **** stains out the seats
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