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Old 05 January 2005, 07:51 PM
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one of my mates is trying to tell me and five other mates you can get drunk on water!
what an **** he is really serious about it, any comments lol
Old 05 January 2005, 07:52 PM
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Stick some sugar and hops into it and I'm sure it's possible
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There is actually a condition called Water Intoxication. Look up hyponatremia. You can become very drowsy and even pass out or go into a coma if you drink too much because it dilutes the electolytes in your blood.
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when we were 14 we managed to get a friend drunk on lilt...
we then told him we had been lying about the alcoholic content and it was in fact 0%
Old 05 January 2005, 08:00 PM
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ajm is correct AFAIK
Old 05 January 2005, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ajm
There is actually a condition called Water Intoxication. Look up hyponatremia. You can become very drowsy and even pass out or go into a coma if you drink too much because it dilutes the electolytes in your blood.
yes i know all that about hyponatremia
definition of intoxication of water is poisoning
definition of drunk is intoxicated with alcohol
Old 05 January 2005, 08:02 PM
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One could argue that intoxication by alcohol is also poisoning. I'd apologise to your friend gracefully!

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Old 05 January 2005, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ajm
One could argue that intoxication by alcohol is also poisoning. I'd apologise to your friend gracefully!
no way he's wrong you cant get drunk on water
Old 05 January 2005, 08:05 PM
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I wouldn't have thought you could get drunk on water
Old 05 January 2005, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by farmerwrx
no way he's wrong you cant get drunk on water
Arguments with you must be fun then.....

Old 05 January 2005, 08:15 PM
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he was really pi55ed at the time but we have pulled his leg over it but he is being perdantic about it now, he won't back down over it
Old 05 January 2005, 08:17 PM
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Drunk on water must be good...even much cheaper than the ways I know.

But the thing about lieing to another (Freak) I do know also!
Old 05 January 2005, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by farmerwrx
no way he's wrong you cant get drunk on water
If you are using "drunk" in the literal sense then no.

If you are using "drunk" in the figurative sense then yes.

As you would be displaying drunk like symptoms.

Being as he was either really pi55ed at the time or hyponatremic when he made this sweeping statement you will never know which version of "drunk" he meant.

Hence his statement could still be right or possibly wrong.
Old 05 January 2005, 10:30 PM
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no way he's wrong you cant get drunk on water
There are so many ways that this sentence could be punctuated.

1. No way! He's wrong; you can't get drunk on water. (The intended meaning, I believe.)

2. No way he's wrong, you! -Can't get drunk on water.

3. No way he's wrong, you CANT! Get drunk on water.

There are others.
Old 05 January 2005, 11:11 PM
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I tried it as a kid, ended up pissing a lot.
Old 06 January 2005, 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
I tried it as a kid, ended up pissing a lot.
Ah, so you were drunk then. Did you try to phone your ex-girlfriend as well?

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Old 06 January 2005, 06:43 AM
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Water intoxication, following excessive ingestion leading to hyponatraemia is potentially lethal as the resultant cerebral oedema (swelling of the brain) leads to fitting, coma and death, if severe.

Don't try it at home, kids!
Old 06 January 2005, 09:11 AM
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anyone know how much water the average person would need to drink over a specific time period for it to be fatal?
Old 06 January 2005, 09:52 AM
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AFAIK, Hyponatraemia is defined as "deficiency of sodium in the blood; salt depletion"

The only cases of this I've ever heard of have always been elite endurance athletes or drug users. That is they've sweated heavily and not only lost loads of fluid, but loads of salt.

If you then just drink loads of water (coz you think you're dehydrated) then it would make matters worse as sodium levels get even more diluted.

The "intoxication" is the lack of sodium in the blood, leading to swelling of the brain and causing dizyness, confusion, etc..

How much depends on a number of things current blood sodium levels, bodyweight, your diet and how much food exists in your system. Can't find any figures searching the net, but one case suggested a girl taking LSD and drinking 7 litres in an hour.

I guess if you're not exercising heavily or sweating buckets at some club out of it on ectasy or LSD, then it would take huge volumes of water to dilute an average persons sodium levels.

So, can you get drunk on water? well I'd say no. what is possible is to drink too much, lower your electrolyte levels and then start to see symptons of swelling of the brain.

A severe blow to the head can induce the same symptoms as being drunk, but I wouldn't say you can get drunk by hitting someone on the back of the head with a baseball bat

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Old 06 January 2005, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by midget1500
anyone know how much water the average person would need to drink over a specific time period for it to be fatal?
It would vary from person to person, but I think it would need to be a LOT.

From http://my.webmd.com/content/article/36/1676_50497.htm

Researchers from New Zealand report one triathlete with hyponatremia had seizures for days after he drank about six gallons (23 liters) of water during competition.
Old 06 January 2005, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ozzy
A severe blow to the head can induce the same symptoms as being drunk, but I wouldn't say you can get drunk by hitting someone on the back of the head with a baseball bat

Stefan
You never heard the expression "punch drunk"?

I think what we are getting into here is an argument over the definition of drunk.... and if we are going to be picky about the words used in the "exam question" then I maintain that I "can get drunk on water" just as well as I can get drunk on land!
Old 06 January 2005, 10:46 AM
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think you've had one too many blows to the head after that joke
Old 06 January 2005, 12:08 PM
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yes you can(ish)

Spend a night drinking Pernod

The next day if you drink a large quantity of water it reacts and somehow gets you pissed again.

apparently
Old 06 January 2005, 12:42 PM
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Wasn't that what killed Leah Betts? It wasn't the ecstasy she'd taken that caused it but the fact she'd consumed gallons of water without actually doing anything energetic. I'm sure I heard that somewhere.
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