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Old 05 January 2005, 08:32 AM
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Angry Iran should be next!

Check this out:

http://www.iranpressnews.com/english/source/001327.html

Truly appalling.... and in the name of guess who?......

Old 05 January 2005, 08:36 AM
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So I take it you suggest, as a response, a US led invasion?
Old 05 January 2005, 08:37 AM
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And this

http://www.iranpressnews.com/english/source/001988.html


A 19-year old girl, "Leyla M", who has a mental age of eight, reportedly faces imminent execution for "morality-related" offences after being forced into prostitution by her mother as a child.
Old 05 January 2005, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by andrewdelvard
So I take it you suggest, as a response, a US led invasion?

Absolutely!

It's high time these people had McDonalds and a bit of civility in their lives!
Old 05 January 2005, 09:14 AM
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Leyla was forced into prostitution by her mother when she was eight years old, according to the 28 November report, and was raped repeatedly thereafter. She gave birth to her first child when she was nine, and was sentenced to 100 lashes for prostitution at around the same time. At the age of 12, her family sold her to an Afghan man to become his "temporary wife". His mother became her new pimp, "selling her body without her consent".

At the age of 14 she became pregnant again, and received a further 100 lashes, after which she was moved to a maternity ward to give birth to twins. After this "temporary marriage", her family sold her again, to a 55-year-old man, married with two children, who had Leyla’s customers come to his house.

The newspaper report makes no mention of her family or the men to whom she was married. In Iranian law, in a case of "intercourse with a blood relative" both parties are considered culpable, but only Leyla M has been referred to in the reports of which Amnesty International is aware.
Nice people then
Old 05 January 2005, 10:26 AM
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scary to think such fanatics are rumoured to be developing nuclear weapons in thier 'atomic energy' research......BOOOOOM
Old 05 January 2005, 10:30 AM
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Iran Press news - Who the hell are they?

Some crappy site knocked up by those who miss the good ole days when the Shah's secret police were torturing people.

Oh..I'm not Iranian...I'm Persian

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Old 05 January 2005, 11:11 AM
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However due to the public´s realization of the events surrounding the boy´s circumstances the cemetery was stormed [in protest]
In protest of what? His death and punishment? Or that he skipped ramadam?
Old 05 January 2005, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by gsm1
Iran Press news - Who the hell are they?
Must admit I wondered this as well - truly horrendous if all true - and TBH it wouldn't surprise me but I do have my doubts about the website.

Despite this I think any US led invasion would be couter productive in the extreme.

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Old 05 January 2005, 04:36 PM
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BTTT

Intelligent, academic, well thought out, source checked posts like this deserve to be continued.

Hum.

PS: first time this hoax was posted on the internet, was in August. Well done ajm.
Old 05 January 2005, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RedFive
BTTT

Intelligent, academic, well thought out, source checked posts like this deserve to be continued.

Hum.

PS: first time this hoax was posted on the internet, was in August. Well done ajm.
Well if it's a hoax then post your sources/proof and we can drop the subject forthwith and dismount our soap boxes.

As it stands this thread has certainly become no more intelligent, academic or well thought out as a consequence of your contribution. Well done you!
Old 05 January 2005, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ajm
As it stands this thread has certainly become no more intelligent, academic or well thought out as a consequence of your contribution. Well done you!
It has!
Old 05 January 2005, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by gsm1
It has!
Why?
Old 05 January 2005, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ajm
Why?
You know...because of da ting an that...innit.
Old 05 January 2005, 04:59 PM
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I think you just brought down the thread's "intelligent, academic and well thought out" quotient by another point!
Old 05 January 2005, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ajm
I think you just brought down the thread's "intelligent, academic and well thought out" quotient by another point!
It never had a quotient to begin with!

Seriously though, I've yet to find those stories on any proper news site. Looks like the kind of made up crap the pro-US Iraqi groups were using to justify the invasion of Iraq - people being put through plastic shredders etc.
Old 05 January 2005, 05:13 PM
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The site may be fake, but I dont think anyones doubting that this sort of thing does happen in these countries.

As for 'invading Iran' I think we should sort out our 'rapidly becoming a major sh*t hole' country first (thats UK for any of you who have already jumped ship or live abroad anyway).
Old 05 January 2005, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by gsm1
It never had a quotient to begin with!

Seriously though, I've yet to find those stories on any proper news site. Looks like the kind of made up crap the pro-US Iraqi groups were using to justify the invasion of Iraq - people being put through plastic shredders etc.
It could be. But if this particular story isn't true then perhaps we need to look at why so many people find it believable?

I think the answer may lie in the fact that Iran has a recent and proven record of apalling cruelty to human beings, and that the structure by which this cruelty is administered is religious.

I suppose all the stoning stories were propaganda too?
Old 05 January 2005, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ajm
It could be. But if this particular story isn't true then perhaps we need to look at why so many people find it believable?
In the same way many Americans believe Saddam Hussein was behind 9/11 - ignorance!

Why the focus on Iran, why not the human rights abuses in Saudi Arabia (far worse than Iran) or Uzbekistan, for example? Because they're friends of our government.
Old 05 January 2005, 05:30 PM
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Dunno ajm, you are the expert on Iran. You read "Iranpressnews" every day I assume. It's not like you just got a link forwarded, that would be so not like you

Carry on, this thread will do just fine without me.
Old 05 January 2005, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by RedFive
PS: first time this hoax was posted on the internet, was in August. Well done ajm.
So have Amnesty International been duped by this as well?

While whoever is behind the website in ajm's original link might be in some doubt, Amnesty International and the Daily Telegraph are a bit more trustworthy and appear to have the same story.

Any proof that this is a hoax?
Old 05 January 2005, 05:38 PM
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Amnesty are more trustworthy but The Daily Telegraph??

Seems the story is genuine but even Amnesty have been duped in the past and have had to revise their statements regarding abuses in Iraq.
Old 05 January 2005, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by RedFive
Dunno ajm, you are the expert on Iran. You read "Iranpressnews" every day I assume. It's not like you just got a link forwarded, that would be so not like you
And you know all about me of course...

Carry on, this thread will do just fine without me.
Shame you weren't blessed with this information before chipping in then, eh?
Old 05 January 2005, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by gsm1
Amnesty are more trustworthy but The Daily Telegraph??

Seems the story is genuine but even Amnesty have been duped in the past and have had to revise their statements regarding abuses in Iraq.
My point was more that if the story is a well know hoax that was uncovered in August, then some pretty major news organizations are still reporting it as fact. The Guardian seem convinced. As do the BBC.
Old 05 January 2005, 09:58 PM
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It looks to be a US properganda website. Theres a link on that site to www.krsi.net which is another Iranian site hosted in America congratulating G W Bush on his re-election!
Old 06 January 2005, 12:55 AM
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they should flog/lash people in this country.....

i'd queue up on a sat afternoon to watch all the theiving scum etc get whipped.....

oh and stoning bring that back!
Old 06 January 2005, 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by RedFive
BTTT

Intelligent, academic, well thought out, source checked posts like this deserve to be continued.

Hum.

PS: first time this hoax was posted on the internet, was in August. Well done ajm.
Are you a retard,this has been going on for years ya daft fukwitt
Old 06 January 2005, 07:12 AM
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Who was it who said "There are none so blind as those that will not see" ?
Old 06 January 2005, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by r32
Who was it who said "There are none so blind as those that will not see" ?
You ! I just heard you say it
Old 06 January 2005, 07:49 AM
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All sounds pretty reasonable to me. I bet they don't have the same problems with chavs and kids trashing everything with impunity like here.

Imagine if a chav keyed your car, at the moment basically nothing would be done. But in Iran a group of religeous mullahs would turn up immediately, bury said chav in sand up to the neck, and stone him/her to death.

Sounds pretty good actually, what's their immigration policy like?


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