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Old 07 December 2004, 11:26 AM
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I would be interested in the Scoobynet think tank's view on this one. Bear with me .........

Inbetween mine and my neighbours house is quite a wide entrance, it is probably about 10 foot wide. It actually belongs to the neighbour, but the deeds say that it has to be kept clear for access for both houses.

All across the front of my house is a printed conctere driveay, this is wide enough for 2 cars, this printed conrete then carries on up the gap between the houses and into our "shared area" at the back of the house. I would say that if you looked at the house you would think that the gap up the side is mine as there is no break between my frontage and the passageway.

Now then, the neighbour is a builder, and he normally parks his battered old transit on the shared bit of the drive. I tend not to see this as a problem, as I am quite an affable chap, the transit also serve as a barrier as such, it kind of screens off the back gardens, not really a bad thing. This has gone on for 18 months since we moveed in. I would be within my rights to get him to shift it , but I don't see any point.

The neighbours son has just bought himself an Audi TT. This has now taken the place of the van on the shared passageway, the van is moved round the corner to a side road of an evening.

2 weeks ago, my next door but 2 neighbours on the other side had their house broken into and the keys stolen for thier ford Focus - nothing special, just a 1.6.


My worry is that somebody might think the TT belongs to me. There are 2 issues here, one is that people may think I am a raging homosexual, the other is that a car thief may break into my house to steal a car that I don't have the keys for. If burglars come in the hose and find keys there is no problem, they take the keys and bugger off in the car.

What happens when they break in and find no keys


Am I being over cautious, and worrying over nothing??
Old 07 December 2004, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by mj

Am I being over cautious, and worrying over nothing??
Yes.
Old 07 December 2004, 11:29 AM
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Leave a sign inside your house in your hallway (or whatever your front door leads into) saying the hairdresser lives next door. Simple.
Old 07 December 2004, 11:36 AM
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Buy it off him and then your worries are over


"printed conctere driveay" ? ?
Old 07 December 2004, 11:40 AM
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Im stuggling here, you say the land is HIS yet there is a passage way/path area next to HIS land thats yours, but if the land is his he can park there all he wants, so how are you within your rights to move him? not being akward just curious.

p.s. yes your being over cautious, when the neigbours got broken into was owt else took or did they break in for just the car keys?
Old 07 December 2004, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by darts_aint_sport
Leave a sign inside your house in your hallway (or whatever your front door leads into) saying the hairdresser lives next door. Simple.
Was going to say the same
Old 07 December 2004, 11:46 AM
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maybe a little paintbrush diagram would help. well me at least
Old 07 December 2004, 11:48 AM
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Put (solid) gates across the entrance?
Old 07 December 2004, 11:52 AM
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Thing is, after a certain length of time they might start to claim squatter's rights!

You never did answer that question I asked in another thread.

Les
Old 07 December 2004, 12:13 PM
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Les, the coke question?

Apologies, I will nip over and do it directly.


any way, the TT..

does this explain better? I agree the land is his, however it is in the deeds it needs to be clear for access. The van is not a problem as already stated, so I let it go that he is not leaving access. The TT is a different story, it is a thief magnet, and the layout of the buildings make it look like it belongs to me, note the neighbours garden wall...

Old 07 December 2004, 12:15 PM
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yeah but the van was probably as much of a threat because they are high targets for people after tools. didnt answer the question I asked about your neighbours who was broke into, anything else taken?
Old 07 December 2004, 12:22 PM
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is this a serious question????

get a grip!
Old 07 December 2004, 12:26 PM
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sorry dave, I didn't - only the car keys were taken, nothing else.

I have considered the van , and that is a valid point, but from experience with our own vans at work, thieves tend to just bust the doors open for tools, not break into a house to get keys.

As I see it, people breaking into houses for keys is becoming commonplace, I don't want to be burgled for something I don't own.
Old 07 December 2004, 12:27 PM
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yes , serious question, your point??
Old 07 December 2004, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiggs
is this a serious question????

get a grip!
agree.
Old 07 December 2004, 12:30 PM
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Tell your neighbour you thought you saw someone sniffing around the TT and that it would probably be a good idea to park it in the space closer to his house where he can keep a better eye on it!
Old 07 December 2004, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by mj
yes , serious question, your point??
1. chance of being broken into for keys...unlikely

2. chance of being broken into for keys....by MISTAKE!!!.....unlikely

3. chance of someone seeing a scabby old pile of crap van on "your" drive and thinking you are a common builder type......high!


therefore be glad the ****e heap is parked elsewhere and stop being so overdramatic.

T
Old 07 December 2004, 12:44 PM
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1. chance of being broken into for keys...unlikely

yes, thats why 2 weeks ago some other neighbours were broken into for car keys, that's really unlikeley Another lad i know not too far away had his S3 taken recently.

2. chance of being broken into for keys....by MISTAKE!!!.....unlikely

not if the car looks like it is on your property.

3. chance of someone seeing a scabby old pile of crap van on "your" drive and thinking you are a common builder type......high!

I'll go with that, not too bothered


as for overdramatics, well thats your opinion, personally I don't want to increase the risk of being burgled.
Old 07 December 2004, 12:46 PM
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Sine when are TT's thief magnets? There's millions of them out there, why would they come to your house for a Golf-In-A-Frock (TM)?
Old 07 December 2004, 12:46 PM
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I don't expect you get these sorts of problems in your "Ivory Towers" do you Tiggs? I suppose that, even if you did, you couldn't ask for advice on here because I doubt your curt and unhelpful responses have left you with many sympathetic ears!
Old 07 December 2004, 12:53 PM
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mj, what car do you and you g/f drive, BTW?
Old 07 December 2004, 12:53 PM
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REV - if they will nick a poxy 1.6 focus, that will have a TT.
Old 07 December 2004, 12:54 PM
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me - crappy old VW caddy.

GF - crappy old VW golf.
Old 07 December 2004, 12:56 PM
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The government reckon that Focus's (Focii?) are in the same risk category as the TT (medium), which is a lower risk than, for example, a classic Impreza.
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Mk2 Golf's are classed as high risk

Vehicle related theft has fallen by 31 per cent since 1997 according to
the authoritative British Crime S urvey 2002/03. The risk of having your
vehicle stolen is very low – about once every 70 years.
This Car Theft Index shows that older cars (those aged 12-14 years old)
are at the highest risk of being stolen. Cars aged between 11-15 years
account for 41 per cent of all cars stolen.
New cars are at least risk of being stolen – those aged 0-3 years old
account for only 13 per cent of stolen cars. Sophisticated security
measures now fitted as standard to new cars mean some criminals are
turning to other methods to steal vehicles (for example taking the keys).

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Old 07 December 2004, 01:22 PM
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My first Clio Cup was nicked and 1.5 months ago, some ******* came back to try for my new one. I now have security measure in place so they will never get in again.

Best way to avoid being burguled is to make it as difficult as possible for them to gain access.

My advice to you would be to install a light at the front of your house which is triggered by movement facing the car, plus have a wall light on all the time perhaps near your front door. Keep the front of your house lit up like a Christmas tree and the rear as dark as possible. Burgulars don't like being seen and hate using torches as it draws attention.

Also, if you have a burgular alarm, use it.
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your neighbour getting done over doesnt make it a likely event that someone will break into your house for your keys!!!!

it happens very rarely and when it does its not for a TT!

get an alarm, get a light and stop worrying.

T
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Originally Posted by Tiggs
your neighbour getting done over doesnt make it a likely event that someone will break into your house for your keys!!!!

it happens very rarely and when it does its not for a TT!

get an alarm, get a light and stop worrying.

T
If someone "orders" a TT through criminal connections, how do you know they won't come looking for one at his house?
Old 07 December 2004, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Clarebabes
If someone "orders" a TT through criminal connections, how do you know they won't come looking for one at his house?
How many TT's are there in the UK???? How many will be stolen by forced entry????

the risk is tiny...forget it beyond a decent alarm.

T
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tiggs - you are missing the point. Anyone standing looking at the two houses would think the car belongs to me, if they are inclined to break into a house to obtain keys then they will break into my house.

I think I'll just tell the neighbour to **** it off the drive and be done with it.



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