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Old 06 December 2004, 06:29 PM
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Got this sent to us today from head office

Please be aware of the current credit card scam reported by *****:

Just been warned about this, and could potentially be financially fatal so close to Christmas.

Please pass on to all people on your mailing list. I got this from a contact in the Halifax Visa team so it is happening!!

Visa and MasterCard Scam. A friend was called on the telephone this week
from 'VISA' and I was called on Thursday from 'MasterCard'.

It worked like this: Person calling says, 'this is **** *****(any name) and I'm calling from the Security and Fraud Department at VISA. My Badge number is 12460. Your card has been flagged for an unusual purchase pattern, and I'm calling to verify. Did you/company purchase a device/any expensive item, for £497.99 from a marketing company based in (any town?)

When you say 'No'. The caller continues with, 'Then we will be issuing a credit to your Account.
This is a company we have been watching and the charges range from £297 To £497, just under the £500 purchase pattern that flags most cards. Before your next statement, the credit will be sent to (they give you your address), is that correct?'

You say, 'Yes'. The caller continues. 'I will be starting a fraud investigation. If you have any questions, you should call the 0800 number listed on your card and ask for Security. You will need to refer to this Control number. They then give you a 6-digit number. 'Do you need me to read it again? Caller then says he 'needs to verify you are in possession of your card' (this is where the scam takes place as up until now they have requested nothing!). They then ask you to turn your card over.

There are 7 numbers; the first 4 are 1234 (or whatever, as they have your
number anyway). The next 3 are the security numbers that verify that you are in possession of the card' (these are the numbers they are really after
as these are the numbers you use to make internet purchases to prove you
have the card).

'Read me the 3 numbers.' When you do he says 'That is correct. I just
needed to verify that the card has not been lost or stolen, and that you still have your card. Do you have any other questions? Don't hesitate to call back if you do.'

You actually say very little, and they never ask for or tell you the Card
number. But after we were called on Wednesday, we telephoned back within 20 minutes to ask a question. Are we glad we did!

The REAL VISA security department told us it was a scam and in the last 15 minutes a new purchase of £497.99 WAS put on our card. Long story made short.


We made a real fraud report and closed the VISA card and they are reissuing us a new number. What the scam wants is the 3-digit number and that once the charge goes through, they keep changing every few days. By the time you get your statement, you think the credit is coming, and then it's harder to actually file a fraud report.

THE REAL VISA/MASTERCARD DEPARTMENT REINFORCED THE POINT THAT THEY WILL NEVER ASK FOR ANYTHING ABOUT THE CARD SINCE THEY ALREADY KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT IT!!!!.

What makes this even more remarkable is that a friend of mine
got a call from 'Jason Richardson of MasterCard'
with a word for word repeat of the VISA Scam. We filed a police report (as instructed by VISA), and they said they are taking several of these reports daily and to tell friends, relatives and co-workers.

so please pass this on to your friends................
Old 06 December 2004, 06:39 PM
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"so please pass this on to your friends................"

Never seen this one before....
Old 06 December 2004, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by zesty
Got this sent to us today from head office

Please be aware of the current credit card scam reported by *****:

Just been warned about this, and could potentially be financially fatal so close to Christmas.

Please pass on to all people on your mailing list. I got this from a contact in the Halifax Visa team so it is happening!!

Visa and MasterCard Scam. A friend was called on the telephone this week
from 'VISA' and I was called on Thursday from 'MasterCard'.

It worked like this: Person calling says, 'this is **** *****(any name) and I'm calling from the Security and Fraud Department at VISA. My Badge number is 12460. Your card has been flagged for an unusual purchase pattern, and I'm calling to verify. Did you/company purchase a device/any expensive item, for £497.99 from a marketing company based in (any town?)

When you say 'No'. The caller continues with, 'Then we will be issuing a credit to your Account.
This is a company we have been watching and the charges range from £297 To £497, just under the £500 purchase pattern that flags most cards. Before your next statement, the credit will be sent to (they give you your address), is that correct?'

You say, 'Yes'. The caller continues. 'I will be starting a fraud investigation. If you have any questions, you should call the 0800 number listed on your card and ask for Security. You will need to refer to this Control number. They then give you a 6-digit number. 'Do you need me to read it again? Caller then says he 'needs to verify you are in possession of your card' (this is where the scam takes place as up until now they have requested nothing!). They then ask you to turn your card over.

There are 7 numbers; the first 4 are 1234 (or whatever, as they have your
number anyway). The next 3 are the security numbers that verify that you are in possession of the card' (these are the numbers they are really after
as these are the numbers you use to make internet purchases to prove you
have the card).

'Read me the 3 numbers.' When you do he says 'That is correct. I just
needed to verify that the card has not been lost or stolen, and that you still have your card. Do you have any other questions? Don't hesitate to call back if you do.'

You actually say very little, and they never ask for or tell you the Card
number. But after we were called on Wednesday, we telephoned back within 20 minutes to ask a question. Are we glad we did!

The REAL VISA security department told us it was a scam and in the last 15 minutes a new purchase of £497.99 WAS put on our card. Long story made short.


We made a real fraud report and closed the VISA card and they are reissuing us a new number. What the scam wants is the 3-digit number and that once the charge goes through, they keep changing every few days. By the time you get your statement, you think the credit is coming, and then it's harder to actually file a fraud report.

THE REAL VISA/MASTERCARD DEPARTMENT REINFORCED THE POINT THAT THEY WILL NEVER ASK FOR ANYTHING ABOUT THE CARD SINCE THEY ALREADY KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT IT!!!!.

What makes this even more remarkable is that a friend of mine
got a call from 'Jason Richardson of MasterCard'
with a word for word repeat of the VISA Scam. We filed a police report (as instructed by VISA), and they said they are taking several of these reports daily and to tell friends, relatives and co-workers.

so please pass this on to your friends................
This one still doing the rounds then?

Have a look here - it may seem vaguely familiar:-

http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/creditcard.asp
Old 06 December 2004, 06:50 PM
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Not too sure how this would work. How could they make purchases with just the three digit security code?

I could understand if they had the other card details, but don't know how they'd get hold of them.
Old 06 December 2004, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by G-STAR
Not too sure how this would work. How could they make purchases with just the three digit security code?
see link on my previous post for explanation
Old 06 December 2004, 06:54 PM
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Will do.

Didn't see your post previously, as I guess we posted a reply at roughly the same time.
Old 06 December 2004, 07:40 PM
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Old 06 December 2004, 07:57 PM
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go easy on the bloke for crying out loud

fair enough the scams been doing the rounds for a while, but personally i don't mind having my memory jogged every now and again wising me up.

never hurts to have too much info relating to these things IMO.
Old 06 December 2004, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by hoskib
go easy on the bloke for crying out loud

fair enough the scams been doing the rounds for a while, but personally i don't mind having my memory jogged every now and again wising me up.

never hurts to have too much info relating to these things IMO.

Now please don't start bringing nicety and common sense onto SN. Whatever next! DL
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Originally Posted by David Lock
Now please don't start bringing nicety and common sense onto SN. Whatever next! DL
Old 06 December 2004, 08:39 PM
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ok ok so its a sial. I hadnt seen it before and nor had the people that were caught out by it.

looking at the link by tentenths it seems like bollox now, I originally read it as the people at head office had been caught out by it, obviously not.

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