ebay question - where do I stand legally (serious advice please)
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ebay question - where do I stand legally (serious advice please)
ok,
looks like i have been duped on ebay for £217.50
paid £7.50 postage for item I expected RMSD this was not stated , guy said he posted it 1st class and as I did not pay the extra £1 insurance. ( as far as i reckon he has scrimped on postage)
Now obviously his expectations on this and mine are totally different.
So basically royal mail say I am entitled to £28 compensation tops.
He has told me I am responsible for claim, I spoke to royal mail today and explained the situation that I only had a certificate of posting.
Was told I should report it to the police,
but all I want is my money back,
Any advise on the matter appreciated
PLEASE ONLY POST ABOUT THIS NOTHING ELSE
ps guy had feedback of around 200, has been in what you would call regular contact but really saying tough to me, said he posted around 100 items and 14 went missing ???
thanks
Jase
looks like i have been duped on ebay for £217.50
paid £7.50 postage for item I expected RMSD this was not stated , guy said he posted it 1st class and as I did not pay the extra £1 insurance. ( as far as i reckon he has scrimped on postage)
Now obviously his expectations on this and mine are totally different.
So basically royal mail say I am entitled to £28 compensation tops.
He has told me I am responsible for claim, I spoke to royal mail today and explained the situation that I only had a certificate of posting.
Was told I should report it to the police,
but all I want is my money back,
Any advise on the matter appreciated
PLEASE ONLY POST ABOUT THIS NOTHING ELSE
ps guy had feedback of around 200, has been in what you would call regular contact but really saying tough to me, said he posted around 100 items and 14 went missing ???
thanks
Jase
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For something of that value yes you would expect it to be sent recorded mail, at least 1st class with £200 max compensation! Have you seen his receipt for postage? How long have you waited on Item?
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Originally Posted by Colinj
For something of that value yes you would expect it to be sent recorded mail, at least 1st class with £200 max compensation! Have you seen his receipt for postage? How long have you waited on Item?
You have you use a different service for more cover
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i was not offered it via email, but he did say after you should have paid the extra,
maybe it was my naivety
but still RMSD up to 2kg is less than £7 so i thought it would not be an issue
I only have a certificate of postage,
jase
maybe it was my naivety
but still RMSD up to 2kg is less than £7 so i thought it would not be an issue
I only have a certificate of postage,
jase
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The problem here is that sellers are making more money by skimping on postage even though it may well have been requested by the buyer to use a more secure delivery option.
Something needs to be done about this in those cases because a buyer has paid and is taking the risk the item will turn up, when in actual fact they had paid for this not to be an issue.
I understand you only assumed it was offered which actually leaves you high and dry unfortunately.
eBay however do have a fair postage policy and if they figure £7.50 is too much for this item then something may be done for any future adverts. This however won't help you now.
Then there's the run up to Christmas and the temporary Postal thieves/staff which seems to be getting worse.
Something needs to be done about this in those cases because a buyer has paid and is taking the risk the item will turn up, when in actual fact they had paid for this not to be an issue.
I understand you only assumed it was offered which actually leaves you high and dry unfortunately.
eBay however do have a fair postage policy and if they figure £7.50 is too much for this item then something may be done for any future adverts. This however won't help you now.
Then there's the run up to Christmas and the temporary Postal thieves/staff which seems to be getting worse.
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do what I did, tell him you have his address, your going to round up a few mates and come for a drive down to sort it face to face in the next couple of weeks or so. leave it at that, and if he dosent come back do it.
I did, we drove to lincoln for a ps2 game, the kids dad ****e it as much as the kid, parantly his dad told him to ignore me. his dad paid up
jamo
I did, we drove to lincoln for a ps2 game, the kids dad ****e it as much as the kid, parantly his dad told him to ignore me. his dad paid up
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From what I understand, Jase, you had the option to pay the extra insurance via the 'checkout' but opted not to, right?
If that is the case there's not much you can do as far as know.
Sorry!
If that is the case there's not much you can do as far as know.
Sorry!
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Someone put me right on this. The seller enters into a contract to supply you with the goods. He hasn't supplied them. Tough for him if they get lost in the post. He can claim the £28 from PO but needs to re-supply you or refund in full. I supply goods and if they don't arrive then I stand the loss and refund. Why is e-bay different? DL
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Recorded is only for £28 comp
You have you use a different service for more cover
You have you use a different service for more cover
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David- In lots of cases on eBay, there isn't another item to be able to send one.
Yes businesses should have to do the chasing up and replace the goods but I think eBay punters as a whole aren't switched on enough to ask.
Yes businesses should have to do the chasing up and replace the goods but I think eBay punters as a whole aren't switched on enough to ask.
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Originally Posted by David Lock
Someone put me right on this. The seller enters into a contract to supply you with the goods. He hasn't supplied them. Tough for him if they get lost in the post. He can claim the £28 from PO but needs to re-supply you or refund in full. I supply goods and if they don't arrive then I stand the loss and refund. Why is e-bay different? DL
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Originally Posted by Colinj
No you can add up to £200 worth with 1st and Recorded....costs an extra 70p or something!
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We deliver most First Class Recorded items by the next working day, and within three working days if it's Second Class. Your Recorded items are covered for up to £28 compensation, in the unlikely event of loss or damage.
Recorded Signed for is not suitable for valuable items including jewellery and money or for very urgent mail. For these, use our Special Delivery 9.00am or Special Delivery Next Day services. Next day delivery is guaranteed, and you can arrange compensation for up to £2,500.
Recorded Signed for is not suitable for valuable items including jewellery and money or for very urgent mail. For these, use our Special Delivery 9.00am or Special Delivery Next Day services. Next day delivery is guaranteed, and you can arrange compensation for up to £2,500.
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Originally Posted by Spoon
Lets not lose sight here that the guy did post the item. It's the shíte Postal service that always gets away with it.
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my point is i reckon he screwed me on postage
if it had of turned up there would not be an issue but as it went pear shaped he is getting funny,
as i said i paid £7.50 to cover postage
royal mail special delivery up to 2kg is around £6.50 this is insured up to £250
for a sat nav system this should have covered it ,
I reckon he is to blame but what can I do, he is now suddenly a non-registered ebay user which makes me think he is doing one,
I cannot post bad feedback as he is now non-registered,
originall he said he posted 100 items and 14 have went missing , i doubt this but what can i do , if he is selling 100 items is it not classed as a business,
I do not want to post the link as i don't think it is needed,
I merely want to find out where I stand legally of course,
ebay has him listed as square trade, according to that I can get around £100 back i think but need to wait 30 days
thanks
jase
if it had of turned up there would not be an issue but as it went pear shaped he is getting funny,
as i said i paid £7.50 to cover postage
royal mail special delivery up to 2kg is around £6.50 this is insured up to £250
for a sat nav system this should have covered it ,
I reckon he is to blame but what can I do, he is now suddenly a non-registered ebay user which makes me think he is doing one,
I cannot post bad feedback as he is now non-registered,
originall he said he posted 100 items and 14 have went missing , i doubt this but what can i do , if he is selling 100 items is it not classed as a business,
I do not want to post the link as i don't think it is needed,
I merely want to find out where I stand legally of course,
ebay has him listed as square trade, according to that I can get around £100 back i think but need to wait 30 days
thanks
jase
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Originally Posted by jase555
I do not want to post the link as i don't think it is needed,
thanks
jase
thanks
jase
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Originally Posted by Colinj
No you can add up to £200 worth with 1st and Recorded....costs an extra 70p or something!
This is not the same as Recorded (Signed For) for which you pay £0.65 extra. DL
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Originally Posted by jase555
ok,
looks like i have been duped on ebay for £217.50
paid £7.50 postage for item I expected RMSD this was not stated , guy said he posted it 1st class and as I did not pay the extra £1 insurance. ( as far as i reckon he has scrimped on postage)
Now obviously his expectations on this and mine are totally different.
So basically royal mail say I am entitled to £28 compensation tops.
He has told me I am responsible for claim, I spoke to royal mail today and explained the situation that I only had a certificate of posting.
Was told I should report it to the police,
but all I want is my money back,
Any advise on the matter appreciated
PLEASE ONLY POST ABOUT THIS NOTHING ELSE
ps guy had feedback of around 200, has been in what you would call regular contact but really saying tough to me, said he posted around 100 items and 14 went missing ???
thanks
Jase
looks like i have been duped on ebay for £217.50
paid £7.50 postage for item I expected RMSD this was not stated , guy said he posted it 1st class and as I did not pay the extra £1 insurance. ( as far as i reckon he has scrimped on postage)
Now obviously his expectations on this and mine are totally different.
So basically royal mail say I am entitled to £28 compensation tops.
He has told me I am responsible for claim, I spoke to royal mail today and explained the situation that I only had a certificate of posting.
Was told I should report it to the police,
but all I want is my money back,
Any advise on the matter appreciated
PLEASE ONLY POST ABOUT THIS NOTHING ELSE
ps guy had feedback of around 200, has been in what you would call regular contact but really saying tough to me, said he posted around 100 items and 14 went missing ???
thanks
Jase
Until you really know where you stand you cant decide what to do can you?
Simon
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Exact same thing happened to me last month but I was the seller. In my case I did not offer an insurance option and stated I would post 1st class recorded. Item was worth £170. It got lost but I returned the guys cash and claimed the £28 myself. Reason I did this was I wanted to keep my feedback score. Sounds like this guy is not willing to take the hit of losing 14 x £200.
Speak to a lawyer, ebay will be no use.
Alas
PS Now I state items will be posted recorded delivery and I'm not liable if PO loses it. I also offer insurance and if taken post Special Delivery and will do refunds if they lose it then.
Speak to a lawyer, ebay will be no use.
Alas
PS Now I state items will be posted recorded delivery and I'm not liable if PO loses it. I also offer insurance and if taken post Special Delivery and will do refunds if they lose it then.
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This is very basic contract law and depends on exact terms of e-bay contract buyer to seller. Establishing who is in the right is one thing (and I strongly suspect you are) but then you have the next problem of recovering funds. Sounds like small claims court to me if you can be bothered although legal letter to seller might avoid this.
Do e-bay offer any advice in these instances which must happen all the time?
DL
Do e-bay offer any advice in these instances which must happen all the time?
DL