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Old 14 November 2004, 10:26 AM
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Default canada may be getting it right...

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...tory/National/

should be banned in the uk too imo and been saying that for ages.

i bet 90%+ of the people on this board consume a bunch of trans-fats a day without even realizing it.
Old 14 November 2004, 10:46 AM
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"without even realizing it."

maybe we dont care?
Old 14 November 2004, 11:36 AM
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Isn't one of the worst culprits margarine?
Dont buy the stuff myself but processed food is also high in TF as well as it gives the poroduct a longer shelf life.

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Go on then, what is a Transfat? I have not heard of them before.

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Old 14 November 2004, 01:26 PM
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Go on then, what is a Transfat? I have not heard of them before.

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....and what are they in?
Old 14 November 2004, 01:30 PM
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Quickly googled for time:

Trans fatty acids are found in numerous foods - commercially packaged goods such as cookies and crackers, commercially fried food such as French Fries from some fast food chains, other packaged snacks such as microwaved popcorn as well as in vegetable shortening and some margarine. Indeed, any packaged goods that contains "partially-hydrogenated vegetable oils" or "shortening" most likely contain trans fats.
Before the invention of trans fatty acids, we cooked food with lard, palm oil or butter etc which are high in saturated fats. Researchers found that saturated fats increase LDL cholesterol (the Bad cholesterol) which may increase the risk of heart disease.

Therefore, manufacturers started to use the healthier vegetable oils in their food production. As liquid vegetable oils are not stable to heat and can go rancid easily, scientists began to "hydrogenate" liquid oils so that they can withstand better in food production process and provide a better shelf life. As a result of hydrogenation, trans fatty acids are formed.

Similar to saturated fatty acids, trans fatty acids also increase LDL cholesterol (the Bad cholesterol) and lower HDL cholesterol (the Good cholesterol) therefore increasing the risk of heart disease. Some studies also showed that a diet high in trans fatty acids may be linked to a greater risk of Type 2 Diabetes.
Old 14 November 2004, 01:32 PM
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Minimize the intake of both saturated fats and trans fats by checking the food labels. Some labels, however, do not list the amount of trans fats present. Here is how you can figure it out on your own: add up the values for saturated, polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats. If the number is less than the "Total fats" shown on the label, the unaccounted is trans fat. In addition, eat less fat - less total fat in general means less trans and saturated fats!!!
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Last edited by r; 14 November 2004 at 01:34 PM. Reason: to say one size fits all!
Old 14 November 2004, 01:37 PM
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I thought that hydrogenated vegetable oils were actually a carb rather than a fat?

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just flicked on here!
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Originally Posted by Tiggs
"without even realizing it."

maybe we dont care?

sure, maybe some people dont care about their health. but i bet lots of people do.

the very fact that most of the products labelled "healthy living" in supermarkets are loaded with trans fats means that the layman looking for a healthy product is actually getting something FAR more unhealthy to them than had they bought the "full fat" version in the first place. THAT'S what's wrong and why they should be banned.
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Originally Posted by GC8
I thought that hydrogenated vegetable oils were actually a carb rather than a fat?

Simon (confused)
no.. they're a fat.
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Originally Posted by r
just flicked on here!
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simon
yes, thats a good site. one thing that i dont see mentioned on there that is vital to know, is that trans fats actually BLOCK the absorbtion of good fats.

so not only are you getting the negative of the trans fats when you consume them, but you're also not getting the benefits of good fats in the foods.
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I care about my health,its just so damm complicated.......

GRRRRRRRRRRRR............
Old 14 November 2004, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by milo
yes, thats a good site. one thing that i dont see mentioned on there that is vital to know, is that trans fats actually BLOCK the absorbtion of good fats.

so not only are you getting the negative of the trans fats when you consume them, but you're also not getting the benefits of good fats in the foods.
double wammy! then
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Originally Posted by paulr
I care about my health,its just so damm complicated.......

GRRRRRRRRRRRR............
it doesnt have to be complicated. just buy things with one ingredient listed and you know what you're getting. examples: oats, chicken, tuna, wholemeal rice, eggs etc. work out the ratios of carbs/proteins/fats you need, and adjust the quantities of the above foods accordingly.
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MMMMM, Trans Fats.....
Old 14 November 2004, 04:20 PM
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Can we ban fat trannies at the same time then ?
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Thanks for the information Lightning, worth looking out for and avoiding as you say.

Les
Old 17 November 2004, 02:15 AM
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does this mean i can't use jeasey milk in my coffee with suger anymore?

use "proper" or "best" butter on my toast

enjoy my thick steaks cooked in lard etc etc
Old 17 November 2004, 02:54 AM
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Hello

In America they are starting to list the Trans fat on the labels. I didn't even take any notice until I read this thread and went to the supermarket this evening!

Steve.
Old 17 November 2004, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by julian N/W wrx my93
does this mean i can't use jeasey milk in my coffee with suger anymore?

use "proper" or "best" butter on my toast

enjoy my thick steaks cooked in lard etc etc
none of those contain trans fats so you'll still be able to have them even IF they ban trans-fats in the UK. look on the labels... if it says "hydrogenated" anything, or "partially hydrogenated" anything, avoid it.
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Originally Posted by boxst
In America they are starting to list the Trans fat on the labels. I didn't even take any notice until I read this thread and went to the supermarket this evening!
im glad people are listening
Old 17 November 2004, 09:32 AM
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You seem to want everything banned Milo, dont forget we are not all the same.

The gov't can stop me having a smoke in the local bar, but I never want to be told what I can and cant eat thank you

Interesting though, will be looking out for them now on food labels just out of interest.

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Old 17 November 2004, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by milo
just buy things with one ingredient listed

like "cake" or "pudding"
Old 17 November 2004, 11:56 AM
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Managed to find Trans-fats admiitted to on a Benecol light box. 0.2/100gm so its looks pretty safe. Not the item to find much in anyway I should think.

Les
Old 17 November 2004, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Weaver
You seem to want everything banned Milo, dont forget we are not all the same.

The gov't can stop me having a smoke in the local bar, but I never want to be told what I can and cant eat thank you
tbh, i dont really care whether its banned or not - its more that i want food to be correctly labelled for the layperson (altho i dont see why it SHOULDNT be banned - theres no benefit to it). id be willing to bet that the majority of people who buy "healthy living" foods are TRYING to be healthy but are in actual fact buying products containing things that do FAR more damage to their body, simply because the product is not labelled fully and/or they're not informed.

as for being told what you can and cant eat... the government already tell you what you can't eat by not allowing certain products to be put into foods. this would just be one more added to that list. you're already subjected to this, altho you dont seem to realize it.

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Originally Posted by milo
tbh, i dont really care whether its banned or not - its more that i want food to be correctly labelled for the layperson (altho i dont see why it SHOULDNT be banned - theres no benefit to it). id be willing to bet that the majority of people who buy "healthy living" foods are TRYING to be healthy but are in actual fact buying products containing things that do FAR more damage to their body, simply because the product is not labelled fully and/or they're not informed.

as for being told what you can and cant eat... the government already tell you what you can't eat by not allowing certain products to be put into foods. this would just be one more added to that list. you're already subjected to this, altho you dont seem to realize it.
Fair and valid point
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