PMSL, FAO & BTTT ???
28 October 2004, 08:29 AM
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PMSL, FAO & BTTT ???
PMSL - **** Myself Laughing
FAO - For The Attention Of
BTTT - Back To The Top
So - Who Invented these, what was the logic behind them and why do we still ALL use them
FAO - For The Attention Of
BTTT - Back To The Top
So - Who Invented these, what was the logic behind them and why do we still ALL use them
28 October 2004, 08:42 AM
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We don't all use them. I have a real dislike of abbreviations, especially when used as a get-out clause; say something deeply offensive, but stick a LOL in the middle to show that really you were being ironic. No you weren't, you coward, you intended to be offensive, just didn't have the ***** to say it and mean it.
Same goes for smilies - can't stand the things.
Same goes for smilies - can't stand the things.
28 October 2004, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by the moose
We don't all use them. I have a real dislike of abbreviations, especially when used as a get-out clause; say something deeply offensive, but stick a LOL in the middle to show that really you were being ironic. No you weren't, you coward, you intended to be offensive, just didn't have the ***** to say it and mean it.
Same goes for smilies - can't stand the things.
Same goes for smilies - can't stand the things.
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28 October 2004, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by the moose
We don't all use them. I have a real dislike of abbreviations, especially when used as a get-out clause; say something deeply offensive, but stick a LOL in the middle to show that really you were being ironic. No you weren't, you coward, you intended to be offensive, just didn't have the ***** to say it and mean it.
Same goes for smilies - can't stand the things.
Same goes for smilies - can't stand the things.
Jasey, above, has very neatly demonstrated this, yet you will have interpreted that as a serious insult and will have taken it to heart which is a shame.
Poor old you!
28 October 2004, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ajm
Smilies and abbreviations are merely an additional method by which people can emote their text and give additional insight into what would otherwise be a sterile interface. It goes some way towards replacing facial expressions and body language which you would normally have the benefit of seeing. You must get regularly offended by all the banter on here if you choose to ignore them.
Jasey, above, has very neatly demonstrated this, yet you will have interpreted that as a serious insult and will have taken it to heart which is a shame.
Poor old you!
Jasey, above, has very neatly demonstrated this, yet you will have interpreted that as a serious insult and will have taken it to heart which is a shame.
Poor old you!
28 October 2004, 08:59 AM
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Some have come about because we're basically lazy, more modern ones from texting and a lot of the original ones came from early email systems. You see a lot of these in the airline industry where most people used to use things such as SITA text - an email type system that charged by the character, so abbrivations were a way of sending cheap messages 
28 October 2004, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ajm
You meant that! 
Still - Keep this on Topic - I am curious as the logic behind online abbreviations. Sometimes we drop certain words from some abbreviations (The is dropped from FAO but not from BTTT), sometimes we split one word in two etc etc.
28 October 2004, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ajm
Smilies and abbreviations are merely an additional method by which people can emote their text and give additional insight into what would otherwise be a sterile interface. It goes some way towards replacing facial expressions and body language which you would normally have the benefit of seeing. You must get regularly offended by all the banter on here if you choose to ignore them.
Jasey, above, has very neatly demonstrated this, yet you will have interpreted that as a serious insult and will have taken it to heart which is a shame.
Poor old you!
Jasey, above, has very neatly demonstrated this, yet you will have interpreted that as a serious insult and will have taken it to heart which is a shame.
Poor old you!
The use of smilies and trite abbreviations is at one level laziness, but at another an intentional obfucation - did he really mean I'm a ****** or was he just joking. LIGAS.
28 October 2004, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by the moose
Have you ever seen smilies in Goethe? Perhaps Shakespeare's sonnets would be improved with a LOL somewhere in the middle?
The use of smilies and trite abbreviations is at one level laziness, but at another an intentional obfucation - did he really mean I'm a ****** or was he just joking. LIGAS.
The use of smilies and trite abbreviations is at one level laziness, but at another an intentional obfucation - did he really mean I'm a ****** or was he just joking. LIGAS.
If you choose to ignore the icons and abbreviations then you will be missing the meaning of the text. You may also be interested to know that your words above come across as aloof and standoffish. Perhaps a cheeky little "
" would have helped to round off your sharp edges.
28 October 2004, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by the moose
Have you ever seen smilies in Goethe? Perhaps Shakespeare's sonnets would be improved with a LOL somewhere in the middle?
The use of smilies and trite abbreviations is at one level laziness, but at another an intentional obfucation - did he really mean I'm a ****** or was he just joking. LIGAS.
The use of smilies and trite abbreviations is at one level laziness, but at another an intentional obfucation - did he really mean I'm a ****** or was he just joking. LIGAS.
.You're not a w@nker (But ajm is a knobber
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28 October 2004, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by richard frost
I think he meant it
LOL
LOL
disclaimer1: This is an Ironic joke to indicate the futility and dangerous nature of smilies, on-line forums, abreviated names and over sensitive souls
disclaimer2: the
at the end of disclaimer1 means that disclaimer 1 is also contains some jokey partsdisclaimer3: The webmaster, moderating team & all Plus Member in no way share the view expressed by gobby jasey.
disclaimer4: Disclaimer 3 IS VERY SERIOUS AND ANYONE JOKING ABOUT THIS WILL BE BANNED.
28 October 2004, 09:26 AM
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I don't ignore the icons/abbreviations, and amazingly enough, I do understand what people are posting.*
My point is that these abbreviations and icons are massively overused. I take your point about comparing literature wiuth a bulleting board, but op-ed pieces in newspapers are, for the most part, conversational in style, yet manage - at least when well-written - to convey the fact that they're being serious/facetious/ironic (delete as appropriate) without resorting to oh-so-hilarious smilies, or bland abbreviations.
If my tone apprears aggressive, my apologies; clearly I'm not an especially good communicator. Regardless, you'll not see me using a "cheeky" smilie at any point in the near future, despite the fact that this clearly makes me a bleak, cold, heartless, aloof individual. With sharp edges.
* Clearly, this does not apply to Muppets!
My point is that these abbreviations and icons are massively overused. I take your point about comparing literature wiuth a bulleting board, but op-ed pieces in newspapers are, for the most part, conversational in style, yet manage - at least when well-written - to convey the fact that they're being serious/facetious/ironic (delete as appropriate) without resorting to oh-so-hilarious smilies, or bland abbreviations.
If my tone apprears aggressive, my apologies; clearly I'm not an especially good communicator. Regardless, you'll not see me using a "cheeky" smilie at any point in the near future, despite the fact that this clearly makes me a bleak, cold, heartless, aloof individual. With sharp edges.
* Clearly, this does not apply to Muppets!
28 October 2004, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by jasey
Hey DICK - **** OFF
disclaimer1: This is an Ironic joke to indicate the futility and dangerous nature of smilies, on-line forums, abreviated names and over sensitive souls
disclaimer2: the at the end of disclaimer1 means that disclaimer 1 is also contains some jokey parts
disclaimer3: The webmaster, moderating team & all Plus Member in no way share the view expressed by gobby jasey.
disclaimer4: Disclaimer 3 IS VERY SERIOUS AND ANYONE JOKING ABOUT THIS WILL BE BANNED.
disclaimer1: This is an Ironic joke to indicate the futility and dangerous nature of smilies, on-line forums, abreviated names and over sensitive souls
disclaimer2: the
at the end of disclaimer1 means that disclaimer 1 is also contains some jokey partsdisclaimer3: The webmaster, moderating team & all Plus Member in no way share the view expressed by gobby jasey.
disclaimer4: Disclaimer 3 IS VERY SERIOUS AND ANYONE JOKING ABOUT THIS WILL BE BANNED.
28 October 2004, 09:34 AM
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Communication takes many forms. Newspapers are TELLING you what THEY want YOU to hear. Online forums are a conversational media and require people to say what they feel at the time. If I was having a real conversation and someone said "stop talking out of your ****" I would probably just shrug it off and maybe follow the advice.
If however they said " STOP TALKING OUT OF YOUR **** " I would probably hit them !
If however they said "
STOP TALKING OUT OF YOUR **** " I would probably hit them !
28 October 2004, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by the moose
You really need to add disclaimer 5: Any apparent damage caused to defenceless words through the use of appalling misspelling was entirely ironic and achieved through special effects keyboards.. All wordplay was carried out in a controlled environment. No words were harmed in the making of this post.
