NeilT

Hi

my new Kona has the Shimano SPD pedals and I'm trying to find some decent shoes for them, as Ive always ridden with toeclips (the stap type) and cant get on without anything securing my foot to the pedals.

I always assumed that half of the SPD clip was on the pedal and the other half on the shoe - however after emailing Wiggle for confirmation, they've replied saying that "Shoes are not supplied with cleats, only pedals are."

Can someone explain this whole SPD set up?

I was looking at the Shimano MT30 Shoe.

cheers

Neil
www.scoobyworld.co.uk

ChrisB

Different pedals need different sort of cleats for the shoes (especially if a shoe that will work with Shimano, Time etc pedals). For instance, my Shimano SPD 520 (IIRC) pedals say to use a specific Shimano model number of cleat. Wiggle have a "Pedal Cleat" section, so you'd need to order the relevant cleat to match your pedals.

FWIW, I found the Shimano shoes quite narrow in fitting for my barge sized feet. Trying a selection on in person at a local shop might save hassle of returning shoes mail-order (unless you've already tried some on to get the fit).

Chris.
{Waits to be corrected }

NeilT

cheers Chris - I assume that the cleats just slot into the bottom of the shoes?

Can t find the cleat section on the Wiggle website - any ideas?

ta

Neil

Big a1

Yep cleats come with the pedals as different pedals require different cleats.

If you bought the bike recently give the shop a bell as they should supply the cleats with the bike.

As far as shoes go, I find that shimano shoes are top notch and last really well.

Go for a shoe with three straps as opposed to two as it gives a more secure fit. Also bear in mind the majority of race shoes are not very well insulated and are not the best for winter riding.

Hope this helps...

Oh and chain reaction cycles had a few shoes in the sale not long ago, so might be worth a look.

Big a1

Depending on shoe you will have to take an insert out of the sole for the cleat to screw into.

As said earlier try where u bought it from for cleats if not I know tha chain reaction sell cleats on there own.

ChrisB

As Big a1 says, the cleats will 'screw' into the bottom of the shoe.

When I look at Wiggle's home page, I see "Pedal Cleats" just below Pedals

Big a1

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/c...+spares_Spares

Thats the page with cleats on...

NeilT

ok - cheers for that

the pedals are PDM505 's - just found this link - http://www.orangebikes.com/technical...LS/PD_M505.PDF which seems to explain it all

Surely the cleat should have come with the pedals?

Last question - are these SPD jobs easy to release your feet from - got visions of me toppling over at the first road juntion!

cheers

Neil

anc-sti

There a lot easier than straps you'll be fine. There are three different types of shimano mtb cleats make sure you get the correct ones for your pedals, there not all cross compatable.

andrewdelvard

You will topple over I think everyone does initially. After a few goes they get dead easy. Imagine you want to disengage your left foot. You just twist out your heel to the left, horizontally. Couldn't be easier. Things can get a little nervous in heavy road traffic though. Again you'll get used to that. For me I'd never ride any other way, made my movement really efficient.

ChrisB

The embarrassment of falling over is worse than the pain of hitting the ground

Maybe try a few clips / un-clips on a field or something first.

NeilT

ok - cheers for that - better find a muddy field somewhere remote to save the pain and embarrasment

found the cleats page on the Wiggle site but cant establish which ones I need for the PDM505 pedals - anyone know?

ta

Neil

Big a1

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/viewproduct.asp?category=Pedals+Clipless+Spares&Mo delID=110

OR


http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/v...es&ModelID=167


Either of these will work

NeilT

cheers - I assume that Multi release means you can unclip your fit from various angles and standard just one? therefore multi better?

cheers

Neil

AvalancheS8

Multi release you can pull your foot out up the way if you pull hard enough, standard you can only get out by turning it sideways. Standard is better because in the situations where you do fall over it's either because you suffer brain lock and forget what to do or because it happens too fast, not because you couldn't twist out, and with the multi's you get unwanted accidental releases, like on very bumpy downhills.

andrewdelvard

I don't think you could ever trust multi angle. You don't need the '?' of whether or not it might come out accidentally. I'm only speculating though. It just doesn't sound right...

scoobypreza

I know they are not shimano but I've got LOOK pedals and shoes for my road bike, only fitted them last weekend for a charity ride and never had any trouble getting clipped in or unclipping (haven't fallen over yet), the pedals are great as you can adjust the tension for clipping in and out plus the difference in power for going uphill is amazing as you can easily pull up the pedal as well as push without worrying about your foot coming loose.
The other thing to do is get some body armour just incase you do go over!!!!

Dave

Iwan

They are easy with lots of practice, but you'll still probably have a "wheelying over backwards moment" with them, most people do.

I was doing a really gnarly downhill in Wales once, my legs were killing me when i got to the bottom (no suspension) and when i stopped to rest i didn't have the energy/coordination to unclip my feet. I couldn't stop myself slowly toppling over sideways as i was also in the wrong gear to cycle away, fortunately the big gorse bush next to me gave me a lovely soft landing on thousands of sharp thorns.

NeilT

thorn bushes bring back bad memories for me - years back on a steep downhill, i stupidly tapped the front brake, flipped the bike and took out a large thorn bush - in the middle of summer with no helmet and not shirt - my back and neck were peppered with hundreds of tiny thorns, plus a wack on the head from hitting the ground - cue a trip to casualty my other half spent the eve plucking them out!

Maybe we need a "whats the worst accident you've ever had on a mountain bike" thread...?

Anyhow - thanks for all the info - ordered some cleats, shoes and cats eye lights from Wiggle - should be with me today

cheers

Neil