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Old 07 October 2004, 10:32 PM
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Red face Submarine: Sorry mate, sold as seen!!!

Anyone else following the submarine saga about the sub we just sold to Canada catching fire before they'd even got past Ireland?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3721476.stm
Old 07 October 2004, 10:34 PM
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LOL, yes, i am!

You've got to laugh though, haven't you?

As ever, you get what you pay for!

Why do the Canucks need nuclear subs though, that's what *i* want to know!!
Old 07 October 2004, 10:43 PM
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Er, it's not a nuclear sub. It's a diesel electric patrol boat (no nuclear missiles on board, either).
Old 07 October 2004, 10:44 PM
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Nope, not seen it at all, someone deemed it muppets only....

http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=368471
Old 07 October 2004, 10:46 PM
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Er, it's not a nuclear sub. It's a diesel electric patrol boat (no nuclear missiles on board, either).
You're right of course, sorry. Dunno why i typed "nuclear". Still seems strange though that the Canadians think they need an underwater deterrent. From whom? Whales??
Old 07 October 2004, 10:47 PM
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Bought unseen - hmmm

Ebay has a lot to answer for - wonder what the feedback will be like
Old 07 October 2004, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Still seems strange though that the Canadians think they need an underwater deterrent. From whom? Whales??
Well, IIRC, one of the Tom Clancy books (think it might have been an earlier, better one) mentioned that since the end of the cold war the sub crews were just monitoring whales...
Old 07 October 2004, 11:19 PM
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Less amusing now that one of the crew has died.


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Old 07 October 2004, 11:24 PM
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Yep, sad to hear one of the crew died from his injuries.

It's the 2nd one to be sold to them by the Navy. The first one had loads of trouble on the way back to Canada too

Anyone else want to buy some old WWII subs?
Old 08 October 2004, 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by tiggers
Bought unseen - hmmm

Ebay has a lot to answer for - wonder what the feedback will be like

LMAO
Old 08 October 2004, 06:11 AM
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Doesn't reflect well on the sellers, bit like a bomb site car dealer.

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Old 08 October 2004, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by tiggers
Bought unseen - hmmm

Ebay has a lot to answer for - wonder what the feedback will be like
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Oh good grief.... so the old adage about controlling troublemakers by promoting them is true!
Old 08 October 2004, 07:49 AM
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Hardly a victory for the Government/MOD either.

Built for 900,000,000 pounds, sold for 244,000,000

But hey, the tax payer will stump up!
Old 08 October 2004, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Simon S3
Hardly a victory for the Government/MOD either.

Built for 900,000,000 pounds, sold for 244,000,000

But hey, the tax payer will stump up!
I can see the complaints on "SubbyNet" - This POS has worse depreciation than a Scooby - The Dealers are $hit and the Breakdown cover sucks
Old 08 October 2004, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by jasey
I can see the complaints on "SubbyNet" - This POS has worse depreciation than a Scooby - The Dealers are $hit and the Breakdown cover sucks
LMFAO!!!!
Old 08 October 2004, 08:55 AM
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3723124.stm

The Ministry of Defence said the motorised Anglian Prince was towing the Chicoutimi through the Atlantic at a speed of about three knots towards the Clyde area.
Motorised? No, really? I'd thought they'd be rowing it back to port
Old 08 October 2004, 09:03 AM
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Not exactly Sold as Seen as they'd been doing trials on it for the last couple of weeks and it was ok then. It was decided (wrongly) that it was in ok condition for a trip across the pond before refitting rather than doing it here. Must get better job rates in America/canada than here. Watched it sail out as I live down the coast from Faslane.
Shame about the crewman. Submariners worst nightmare - fire.
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Old 08 October 2004, 09:10 AM
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It made me shudder watching it rolling violently about in the sea with crewmen still onboard, they must have very strong stomachs
Old 08 October 2004, 11:25 AM
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Oh good grief.... so the old adage about controlling troublemakers by promoting them is true!
There goes the neighbourhood.
Old 08 October 2004, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ajm
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Oh good grief.... so the old adage about controlling troublemakers by promoting them is true!
You applying then?
Old 08 October 2004, 12:08 PM
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Was it ever made clear why the helicopter wasn't dispatched to them somewhat earlier? The vessel got into trouble on Tuesday and it took until yesterday for them to lift people off it. I was guessing that it was weather related but even so the submarine was about 110 miles out and that is within the range of the helicopter even with a significant headwind. They also knew it's precise position so there was no "search" factor. I have also seen helicopters lift casulties off in bigger seas, though the fact that the sub has no power must add to the problems.

Either way I suspect there is a story there that someone doesn't want us to hear.
Old 08 October 2004, 12:44 PM
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I know the Irish navy sent a boat but it was badly damaged by 30' waves, Captain siad its was like hitting 30' of concrete?!?! they had to turn back...
Old 08 October 2004, 01:23 PM
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That's not why they turned back, they turned back because the two blokes rowing got tired and it was nearly their lunchtime.
Old 08 October 2004, 04:26 PM
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But they were headed in the wrong direction aswell.
Old 08 October 2004, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by hedgehog
That's not why they turned back, they turned back because the two blokes rowing got tired and it was nearly their lunchtime.

Originally Posted by Sith
But they were headed in the wrong direction aswell.
well it was British Built so I suppose we couldnt expect anything else but a wonky compass, at least it made it back though...
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