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Old 29 September 2004, 08:18 PM
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Question help. ive forgoten how to simplify fractions.

i need to know how to simplify fractions again.

4/9 x 5/8

what do i do?

convert to decimals?

help please
Old 29 September 2004, 08:20 PM
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20/72, or 10/36, or 5/18

Easy.
Old 29 September 2004, 08:23 PM
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Cancel top & bottom.

4/9 x 5/8
= 1/9 x 5/2
= 5/18
Old 29 September 2004, 08:27 PM
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To convert to decimals, divide the top by the bottom

5/18=0.27777777777777777777777777777778
=0.28

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Old 29 September 2004, 08:29 PM
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so 3/8 x 4/7 would be?
Old 29 September 2004, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
20/72, or 10/36, or 5/18

Easy.
3 marks out of 5 because you didn't show your working!

PG:

1) multiply the top numbers together: 4 x 5 =20
2) multiply the bottom numbers together 9 x 8 = 72
3) find a the largest whole number that will divide into both top and bottom (in this case 4)
4) divide both top and bottom by 4 -> 20/4 = 5 and 72 /4 = 18
5) reassemble: 5/18



so 3/8 x 4/7 would be?
3 x 4 = 12
8 x 7 = 56

12/56 (divide top and bottom by 4) = 3/14

"those who can..... teach!" (or not )
Old 29 September 2004, 10:58 PM
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what about dividing?

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Old 29 September 2004, 10:59 PM
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Old 29 September 2004, 11:02 PM
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Hello

Just for you: http://www.mathleague.com/help/fractions/fractions.htm

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I believe you turn one of the fractions upside down and proceed as for multiplication.
Old 29 September 2004, 11:06 PM
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ta sweethearts. i hath knowledge now.
Old 29 September 2004, 11:10 PM
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Makes you wonder what all those years fookin around with your mates at school were in aid of, doesn't it?
Old 29 September 2004, 11:49 PM
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omfg, makes me not want to have kids!

daddy, can you help me with my homework? arrghhhhh flashbacks, nooo the pain

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Old 29 September 2004, 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by judgejules
omfg, makes me not want to have kids!

daddy, can you help me with my homework? arrghhhhh flashbacks, nooo the pain

Jules
Hello

I'm just trying to teach my four year old about impersonal pronouns and why she shouldn't use them when referring to someone in the same room.

The nightmare of grammar school comes thudding back.

Steve.
Old 30 September 2004, 08:41 AM
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Old 30 September 2004, 09:19 AM
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Click on "Start"
Click on "Run"
Type "calc"
Press enter

Old 30 September 2004, 09:31 AM
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quote" "those who can..... teach!" (or not )"

In reality it is those that can - do, those that can't - teach
Old 30 September 2004, 10:55 AM
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Makes you wonder what all those years fookin around with your mates at school were in aid of, doesn't it?
been doing alevel maths for the last 2 years and used calculators. forgot the basic crap.
I remember it now though
Old 30 September 2004, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by judgejules
omfg, makes me not want to have kids!

daddy, can you help me with my homework? arrghhhhh flashbacks, nooo the pain

Jules

One of my neighbours kids is doing maths A level. At the minute they are doing calculus. His dad comes round every night with the son and his homework to get me to explain/do it. Last night was inverse trig differentiation. He says that the teacher doesn't even understand it
Old 30 September 2004, 11:30 AM
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For those that want a Thursday morning mental workout, the question was


A movie screen on the front wall in your classroom is 16 feet high and positioned 9 feet above your eye-level. How far away from the front of the room should you sit in order to have the ``best" view ?
Old 30 September 2004, 11:50 AM
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Depends on your eyesite:

20/20 vision etc, do you wear glasses, what light level in the room, reflectance, resolution of screen.
Old 30 September 2004, 11:53 AM
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But in the interest of mathmeatics:

screen - Distance
size
30"6.25 feet35"7.3 feet40"8.3 feet45"9.4 feet50"10.4 feet55"11.5 feet60"12.5 feet65"13.5 feet
Old 30 September 2004, 11:55 AM
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You never said whatsize the screen was
Old 30 September 2004, 11:59 AM
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Bloody big classroom
Old 30 September 2004, 12:06 PM
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Feet? Thought they worked in metric these days?

Homework - can't wait for daughter to come home with these type of questions!
Old 30 September 2004, 04:36 PM
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The screen is 16 ft high as per question.

If you imagine two triangles. The bottom of each one is x. The side of one is 9 and the side of the other is 25 (A side view cross section of the room.) Your viewing distance from the wall is x.
Let A be the angle between the floor and the hypotenuse of your view to the bottow of the screen.
Let B be the angle between the floor and the hypotenuse of your view to the top of the screen.

Let Z = B-A. Now work out the length of x that gives the largest possible value of Z.


from trig it follows (after about 3 pages) that

z=arctan(25/x)-arctan(9/x)

All you have to do now is differentiate the function of z and set the derivative to zero.
Old 30 September 2004, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by fast bloke
The screen is 16 ft high as per question.

If you imagine two triangles. The bottom of each one is x. The side of one is 9 and the side of the other is 25 (A side view cross section of the room.) Your viewing distance from the wall is x.
Let A be the angle between the floor and the hypotenuse of your view to the bottow of the screen.
Let B be the angle between the floor and the hypotenuse of your view to the top of the screen.

Let Z = B-A. Now work out the length of x that gives the largest possible value of Z.


from trig it follows (after about 3 pages) that

z=arctan(25/x)-arctan(9/x)

All you have to do now is differentiate the function of z and set the derivative to zero.

Oi, don't spoil it - I am half way through this, been doing it in my spare time today!!!
Old 30 September 2004, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyC_772
Cancel top & bottom.

4/9 x 5/8
= 1/9 x 5/2
= 5/18
Thats is one very simple way of working it out Andy, shame they don't teach us to spot techniques like that.

Am currently learning what a huge increase in ability is needed to jump from GCSE maths to A-Level Maths
Old 30 September 2004, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ajm
Oi, don't spoil it - I am half way through this, been doing it in my spare time today!!!

Thats the easy bit done for you - you can get straight on to the difficult bit
Old 30 September 2004, 05:04 PM
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I don't recall A-level maths requiring a huge increase in ability as such, but it sure as heck requires a huge increase in effort and number of hours put in. I did further maths too and still remember Sundays spent doing past exam papers *shudder*.

What was worst of all, was our maths teacher had a habit of setting us the paper one week, and then all the questions we'd opted out of doing (ie. couldn't do!!) the next week. The b*stard!

Scarier still was that when I went on to do my engineering degree, we covered the whole of the 2 yr further maths course in the first term and a half - and kept that pace up until the end of the course, by which time I was a gibbering wreck. I actually can't do much in the way of maths at all any more, it's fried that little part of my brain. Thankfully my job (electronic engineer) doesn't require any after all that


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