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Old 28 September 2004, 10:48 AM
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tiny.com offer

42" plasma + DVD Recorder + Dolby 5.1 Recever/Tuner + TV Tuner + Speakers + units and stands + and internet set top box and glass stand cabinet

£1299 inc vat

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Old 28 September 2004, 11:20 AM
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Old 28 September 2004, 11:23 AM
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wheres that credit card go again
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U sure it was tiny.com? Looked on the website and they only sell cheap PC's??

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Old 28 September 2004, 11:39 AM
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Ive just been looking too and found nowt
Old 28 September 2004, 11:39 AM
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****! shame my living room is too small for a 42" tv
Waiting for 30" LCD's to drop in price.
That sounds like a cracking deal though! Have they got a website?
Old 28 September 2004, 11:40 AM
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It depends on the make of the screen. Some of the cheap 42" plasmas have pretty dire picture quality....

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Old 28 September 2004, 11:45 AM
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Plasmas only have a 3-5 year life I think. LCD will be the way forward.
Old 28 September 2004, 12:01 PM
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the early plasma's failed in 3- 5 years guranteed we had 8 sony 42" and 2 pioneer 50" the pioneers cost 18k at the time. Within 18 months 3 Sonys had failed.

My office now has a Panansonic that has been going strong for 4 years.

I still wouldnt buy one the picture is to rigid and hard very difficult for the eys to relax on, awful at TV not to bad for DVD.

Wait for LCD, and definelty go and see one before buying that tiny one, it could make your eyes bleed !!!.
Old 28 September 2004, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by gsm1
Plasmas only have a 3-5 year life I think. LCD will be the way forward.
That's not true. The current screens usually boast at least a 10 year life expectancy, with the more expensive ones quoting 15-20 years.

LCD technology is not as good as Plasma yet. It will catch up, and probably overtake before too long, but I expect it to be a couple of years or so before it does. There's still too much lag / blurring on even the most expensive LCD screens at the moment to justify the cost....
Old 28 September 2004, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by pbee
I still wouldnt buy one the picture is to rigid and hard very difficult for the eys to relax on, awful at TV not to bad for DVD.
I personally find the plasma screens easier to look at than a crt. I've just got myself a 42" panny, (for only £1600 ). Looks fine with TV (via sky), and on dvd / xbox it is superb.

Not impressed at all with the current crop of LCD screens. Too blurry, especially with large / fast pans (like when watching a football match for example)...
Old 28 September 2004, 12:39 PM
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The make is samsung.

There is a full breakdown on the page of every component and manufacturer.

Its on the page after the center page section in todays sun.
Old 28 September 2004, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by lightning101
The make is samsung.
That'll be why it's cheap then. They're not the best screens out there tbh...
Old 28 September 2004, 12:54 PM
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Maybe not - but the Samsung model in currys is £1199 without any of the other stuff on offer. So maybe you do get what you pay for but it equates to about £600 for a 42" plasma, if you buy the rest individually, as the prices and manufacturers RRP's are shown in the advert.


And no its not on tiny.com website - its tiny direct.
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This would appear to be the equivalent, so not the latest model out there:


The Samsung PPM42S3 is the perfect choice for wall-mounted applications, as a single, double or multi-screen display. Lightweight, with sleek silver styling and delivering outstanding picture quality this display is ideal for any use whether home or office, point of sale and point of information spaces.


1)42" Screen Size 2)Silver Bezel 3)WVGA Resolution (852x480 pixels) 4)Digital Natural Image engine 5)3000:1 Contrast Ratio 6)1000 Candelas Brightness 7)2 Year On-site UK Mainland Warranty 8)31.0kg 9)3.1'' deep This is a fantastic offer. The price in High Street stores is over £2800, so you can make a great saving.

Also has an ebay electronics 5 star rating.
Old 28 September 2004, 05:44 PM
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I just read the advert - you don't get the DVD and 5.1 stuff, that bit is extra

You get the screen, detachable speakers, tuner and table mount stand. None of the other stuff.

Basically its the telly delivered for £1299

Edit to say you get the internet bit too.

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Old 28 September 2004, 05:56 PM
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for that price, it aint a very good plasma

I have the pioneer 43" - just gotta wait till I can afford the high-definiation dvd player!! drool
Old 28 September 2004, 06:02 PM
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Considering a Panasonic TH42PWD6 can now be had for only £300 more its probably not a very good deal at all for a screen of that quality.
Old 28 September 2004, 06:20 PM
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I am sorry - I never seen the little options text at the side. I though it was a good deal and rushed it onto scoobynet to give people a chance to have look, yep doesn't seem a very good deal now.
Old 28 September 2004, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by djuk
Considering a Panasonic TH42PWD6 can now be had for only £300 more its probably not a very good deal at all for a screen of that quality.
That's what I've got. For the price the panny is amazing, and even looks a lot better than some much more expensive models IMHO
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They say the plasma panel is made by samsung in Korea or by Matsu****a in japan, the motherboard's made in the far east, and the whole lot is assembled in Burnley!
Old 28 September 2004, 11:21 PM
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I've just ordered that panny myself - can't wait with what people have been saying about it

Panny screen, scart board and wall mount for 1890 delivered
Old 29 September 2004, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyJawa
I've just ordered that panny myself - can't wait with what people have been saying about it

Panny screen, scart board and wall mount for 1890 delivered
You won't regret it. Make sure when you set it up you run it in properly. For the first 100-200 hours turn the brightness and contrast right down, and try to avoid any static images for long periods of time. If you do this, then you should have no problems with burn in etc later in its life

Nearly got mine run in now, (got the scart and component video baords) and the picture looks even better than it did when I first plugged it in
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Originally Posted by Iain Young

Looks fine with TV (via sky), and on dvd / xbox it is superb.



On a seperate note mate, its generally advised not to play computer games on Plasmas due to the image potentialy being burned onto the screen, for example if you play Halo, the whole time you playing, your health bar and radar are in exactly the same place without changing for however long you play....sure someone a bit more technical can confirm...??


shame as X-box and DVD's is all i'd want one for!
Old 29 September 2004, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by wez_sti
On a seperate note mate, its generally advised not to play computer games on Plasmas due to the image potentialy being burned onto the screen, for example if you play Halo, the whole time you playing, your health bar and radar are in exactly the same place without changing for however long you play....sure someone a bit more technical can confirm...??

shame as X-box and DVD's is all i'd want one for!
Not exactly true.

With any plasma screen it is not advisable to keep any static images on the screen for long periods of time due to the image burn in problems. This not only affects console games, but also things like the sky logo display at the top of the sky one channel etc, (although this isn't a problem because they switch to adverts every 10 minutes during which they don't show the logo).

The burn in effect varies from screen to screen and of all the makes it is generally agreed that the panny is the least prone to these problems. I know of people who have had the same game running on the screen for 7-8 hours at a time with no problems with burn in what so ever.

Most games do have a health bar, rev counter etc, but also drop you back to a title screen, or cut-scenes through the game and so the burn in potential is greatly reduced. Basically, as long as you're sensible and don't play the same game non-stop for 5 hours (you shouldn't do this anyway for health reasons), then you'll have no problem at all.

Don't believe all the scare stories. As long as you run the screen in correctly, they're not as fragile as some people make them out to be (at least, the panny isn't)....

Iain
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Originally Posted by Iain Young
You won't regret it. Make sure when you set it up you run it in properly. For the first 100-200 hours turn the brightness and contrast right down, and try to avoid any static images for long periods of time. If you do this, then you should have no problems with burn in etc later in its life

Nearly got mine run in now, (got the scart and component video baords) and the picture looks even better than it did when I first plugged it in
Ah nice one - I didn't know that - I will indeed do that then thanks!

I need to order the component board too as I've just ordered a Denon 5.1 EX home cinema kit with built in DVD that supports progressive scan!!!
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Originally Posted by ScoobyJawa
Ah nice one - I didn't know that - I will indeed do that then thanks!

I need to order the component board too as I've just ordered a Denon 5.1 EX home cinema kit with built in DVD that supports progressive scan!!!
It's worth it. The progressive scan component input looks sooo much better than the scart input.
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Originally Posted by Iain Young

as long as you're sensible and don't play the same game non-stop for 5 hours (you shouldn't do this anyway for health reasons), then you'll have no problem at all.



Iain

have you never played Halo?? 5hr's is only a quick stint!!!!

been playing with mates via link up cable, SO good!!! if any of you havent tried it you wont regret! other than the fact you wont get anything else done! capture the flag on blood gultch is a personal fav....


how sure about the screen burn are you, i mean, a year or two with no prob is fine, but how do you know if there are any negatives 5/10 years down the line?? not arguing as i know little or nothing, just curious!

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Yep. Finished it as well

There's been a lot of discussion about this on AV Forums.

There's one chap on there who has played halo for 8+ hours at a stretch and not even had any after image effects, let alone burn in (this is on the panny pw6 screen - some lesser / cheaper screens are less sturdy).

I'm not the slightest bit worried about image burn in at all, and as for all the scare stories you read about lifespan of the screens, it's a load of rubbish. The average "full performance" life of a plasma screen is quoted as somewhere around 30,000 hours of use.

This works out somewhere around 12 years of use if you have the screen turned on for 7 hours a day, every day of the year. Even after that, the screen will still work fine, and you probably won't even notice any dropoff in performance for some time.

I'll be wanting a new telly by then anyway because technology will have moved on quite a lot by then

My last CRT (a Sony) only lasted 5 years....
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Originally Posted by Iain Young
It's worth it. The progressive scan component input looks sooo much better than the scart input.
Company I bought it from (AV Sales) has just saved me a packet! They said I don't need the board, all I need is cable converting the RCA component out into a VGA plug and that will do the same job - just can't watch DVD and PC at same time - like I would anyway!!!


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