bing-bonger

.....please read:-

http://www.ttgapers.com/Article827.html

Opinions please..........


thanks

Bing

nuggs

Music is influencial to people so to some extent it has be censored, but to take them court over it a bit OTT

Senior_AP

Killing gays is a bit harsh though isn't it!!!

scoob_babe

Unfortunately there are too many people who won't take responsibility for their own actions and are stupid enough to act out what is said in a song.
Suprised Tipper Gore etc haven't complained in the US yet.

darts_aint_sport

Sounds fair enough to me. Don't see how it's any different to the Abu Hamza situation really.

Claudius

Never heard of that band, but searching for their lyrics on the internet, they seem to call for peace rather than murder?



Murderer
Buju Banton


Chorus:
Murderer !
Blood is on your shoulders
Kill I today you cannot kill I tomorrow
Murder !
Your insides must be hollow
How does it feel to take the life of another

Repeat

Verse 1:
Yes, you can hide from man but not your conscience
You eat the bread of sorrow drink the wine of violence
Allow yourself to be conquered by the serpent
Why did you disobey the first commandment
Walk through the valley I feel no pestilence
God is my witness and he is my evidence
Lift up mine eyes from whence cometh help
You coulda never escape this judgement

Chorus

Verse 2:
I tell you, all men are created equal
But behind the trigger it's a different sequel
Some are murdering people to collect medals
Stop committing dirty acts for the high officials
You could wash your hands until you can't wash them any more
It is like an epidemic and you won't find a cure
Upper class you could be rich, middle class wheter you are poor
Only the righteous won't feel insecure
Have you ever thought about your skill getting bored

Chorus

Verse 3:
Drinking sulphur bitters won't bitter like your end
Only God can help you, no family or friend
Don't let the curse be upon your children's children
Abdenigo, Shadreck, Meshek, Daniel in the eden
Jonah in the whale's belly, but he was never condemned
Job with the leprosy, and he still reached heaven
He will do for you everything He has done for them.

Chorus

Repeat from top This song can be found on Buju's album "Til Shiloh"

bing-bonger

that is such a top tune mate......well done Claudius

darts_aint_sport

Think these are more the kind of lyrics to which people refer.

http://www.allthelyrics.com/lyrics/b.../boom_bye_bye/

(If you can understand them)

ProperCharlie

"(Its like) Boom bye bye
Inna batty bwoy head
Rude bwoy no promote no nasty man
Dem haffi dead
Boom bye bye
Inna batty bwoy head
Rude bwoy no promote no nasty man
Dem haffi dead

(Two man) Hitch up on an rub up on
An lay down inna bed
Hug up on another
Anna feel up leg
Send fi di matic an
Di Uzi instead"


etc etc. nice, huh?

Dracoro

hmmm, guns don't kill people rappers do!.

OllyK

Personally I am more concerned about promoting poor English grammar and spelling

Claudius

Yes, I just found that, that's the one song that seems to be incriminated:

World is in trouble
Anytime Buju Banton come
Batty bwoy get up an run
At gunshot me head back
Hear I tell him now crew

(Its like) Boom bye bye
Inna batty bwoy head
Rude bwoy no promote no nasty man
Dem haffi dead
Boom bye bye
Inna batty bwoy head
Rude bwoy no promote no nasty man
Dem haffi dead

(Two man) Hitch up on an rub up on
An lay down inna bed
Hug up on another
Anna feel up leg
Send fi di matic an
Di Uzi instead
Shoot dem no come if we shot dem--
Don't want Jackie
Give dem Paul instead
Dem don't want di sweetness
Between di leg
Gal bend down backway
An accept di peg
An if it really hot
You know she still naw gon fled
A some man
Still don't want di
Panty raid
Pure batty business dem love

(Me say) Boom bye bye
Inna batty bwoy head
Rude bwoy no promote the nasty man
Dem haffi dead
Boom bye bye
Inna batty bwoy head
Rude bwoy no promote no nasty man
Dem haffi dead

(Woman is di) Greatest thing
God ever put pon di land
Buju lovin dem from head
Down to foot bottom
But some man a turn around
Where dem get that from
Peter is not for Janet
Peter is for John
Suzette is not for Paul
Suzette is for Ann
Where the bumbleclot
Dem get dat from
Here come the DJ
Name Buju Banton
(Come fi) ((Straighten yuh talk?))

(Boom boom boom) Boom bye bye
Inna batty bwoy head
Rude bwoy no promote the nasty man
Dem haffi dead
Boom bye bye
Inna batty bwoy head
Rude bwoy no promote no batty man
Dem haffi dead

(Caw me say) Dis is not an bargain (Me say)
Dis is not a deal
Guy come near we
Then his skin must peel
Burn him up bad like an old tire wheel
((Wild? Wow?)) Buju Banton yuh ((tough?))

(Me say) Boom bye bye
Inna batty bwoy head
Rude bwoy no promote the batty man
Dem haffi dead
Boom bye bye
Inna batty bwoy head
Rude bwoy no promote no batty man
(Hear what now!)

(Two man) A hug up on an kiss up on
An lay down inna bed
Hug up on another
Anna rub dung leg
Send fi di matic an
Di Uzi instead
Shoot di batty boy come if we shot dem--
Dem don't want Jackie
Give dem Paul instead
Don't want di poom poom
Between Patsy leg
All dem want
Is the body from Fred
But dis is Buju Banton
Me say

(Me say) Boom bye bye
Inna batty bwoy head
Rude bwoy no promote no nasty man
Dem haffi dead
Boom bye bye
Inna batty bwoy head
Rude bwoy no promote no nasty man
Dem haffi dead

Caw woman is the prettiest thing
God ever put pon di land
Put pon di land (Pu-pu-put pon di land)
But some man a turn around
Where dem get dat from
Peter is not for Janet
Peter is for John
Suzette is not for Paul
Suzette is for Ann
Here come di DJ name Buju Banton (Come fi)
Give di massive
Satisfaction
Happy how yuh lovin (Ju fi)

(So just) Boom bye bye
Inna batty bwoy head
Rude bwoy no promote no batty man
Dem haffi dead
Boom bye bye
Inna batty bwoy head
Rude bwoy no promote no batty man
Dem haffi dead

All a di New York crew
Dem no promote Batty man
Jump an dance
Unno push up unno hand
All di Brooklyn girl
Dem no promote batty man
Jump an bogle
Anna wine yuh bottom
Canadian gals dem no like batty man
If yuh are not one
Yuh haffi push up

(Me say) Boom bye bye
Inna batty bwoy head
Rude bwoy no promote no batty man
Dem haffi dead
Boom bye bye
Inna batty bwoy head
Rude bwoy no promote no batty man
Dem haffi dead

Claudius

The one comment that I found on the internet that sums the situation up best is probably the following:


The English homosexual Organization Outrage has waged a war against Jamaica’s most popular entertainers. They have targeted Beenie Man, Bounty Killa, Elephant Man and now Buju Banton. Outrage labels Buju Banton as an entertainer who records songs that incites the killing of homosexual because Buju recorded the notorious song “Boom Bye Bye” in 1989 when he was 16 years old. Since then he has not recorded any songs that homosexuals object to.
Moreover, the song does not mean that people should literally kill homosexuals. Buju, “the Voice of Jamaica,” was merely echoing the sentiment of most Jamaicans. Homosexuality may be prevalent and accepted in many European cultures but that is not the case in Jamaican culture. Outrage is participating in cultural imperialism by dictating that reggae artists should not reflect their own culture.
Furthermore, Buju sings about the many injustices in the world. He addresses many issues like child abuse, imperialism, globalization and the suffering of the under-privileged. He has also worked to prevent the spread of HIV by dedicating a song to condom use and has formed an organization to assist people suffering from AIDS in Jamaica.
Buju Banton is being crucified by Outrage for reflecting his culture. Moreover, outrage is only increasing the tension between heterosexual and homosexual Jamaicans by instigating a fight with their attacks on Jamaican Reggae Artists. As a result the youth of Jamaica are now even more anti-homosexual after hearing about the war Outrage is waging against their cultural icons.

gsm1

That song has been controversial for some time. I remember Tim Westwood defending playing Buju's music because he was "keeping it real" or some such sh*te.

gsm1

Man, what a good defence.
Presumably that was also written on the CD cover.

darts_aint_sport

BTW I'm guessing guess Electric Six - Gay bar wouldn't go down too well in Kingston

Claudius

Europeans have not always been as "homo tolerant" as nowadays. It's been a recent evolution, and we should be tolerant enough to understand that not every single culture on the planet currently has the same views on homosexuality.

Germans are very hatred sensitive these days after having been enticed to hatred in the thirties, so the comments from their ministre are understandable, even if they seem a bit OTT. It's all about cultural differences.

ProperCharlie

so i suppose if your "culture" advocates rape of women, beating of children, enslaving of ethnic minorities or whatever then we shouldn't be "culturally imperialist" by criticising it?

what a load of bs.

gsm1

PC beat me to it. It's a very poor argument, Claudius.

unclebuck

Is it 'cos he is black? innit

STi wanna Subaru

iTrader: (1)

sounds cr@p anyway. ban it!

bing-bonger

If the stuff I used to come out with when I was 16 was representing me today I would have been banned from this site in my first few days.....

Claudius

I didnt write that, it's a comment I found on the internet, to broaden the discussion. I never said anybody should beat children, rape women or kill homosexuals! WTF did you get that from?

ProperCharlie

it was an analogy...

unclebuck

That's what muslims say isn't it? Perhaps they should be banned too?

gsm1

So do Christians and many others. I forgot, silly me, what one muslim says represents them all.

OllyK

I think we have our own cultural problems, we set ourselves up on the moral high ground and say the Muslims are wrong for opressing women, and the Jamacans are wrong for not accepting gays in to their culture and then wonder why we **** half the world off.

Claudius

At last someone who understands!

ProperCharlie

no-one said they were wrong not to accept homosexuals. the thing that is wrong is publically advocating killing people, particularly in a society as violent and gun ridden as Jamaica.

Claudius

I havent read the Coran, so I couldnt comment, but laws in Germany state that it is forbidden to entice people to hate other people because of their sexual orientation, religion, or physical appearance.