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Old 09 April 2004, 09:23 AM
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Is there an active Scoobynet Seti group?
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I'm sure there was, not sure if it's still going though
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http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/index.html
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The seti group has been replaced by the couch massive and the armchair posse
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There's a very active group on the United Devices Cancer Research project, if you want to do something that's actually useful with your spare CPU cycles. The team is called the Impreza WWW Owners Club and it's been going for years. The team currently ranks #45 out of 38,333 and sits ahead of teams such as 'France', 'Compaq', 'Australia' and 'Hewlett Packard'. The nearest car owners' group is the S2000 owners' club at #96.
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got a link andy
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http://www.grid.org/projects/cancer/
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That's the project

Link here
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Andy et al,

I have absolutely no idea what this is all about.

I know that I could probably take the links and read up on it but I'd be really grateful for a one or two line summary.

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N

BTW - how's the missus ?
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Hi Andy

I remember the IWOC from my previous Impreza ownership. The Grid site isn't very informative. Can it run on multiple processors? How does the workunit download work? Will it download over a proxy? Is there a facility like Setiqueue to control several workstations from a server? Are there any compatability issues? Does the software auto upgrade itself? How will the Grid system impact on the new Boinc (Seti2) software being designed now? Which drug company benefits from the work?
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Originally Posted by lightning101
The seti group has been replaced by the couch massive and the armchair posse
PMSL
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Yup. I'm doing my bid in the search for illegal aliens. Fight the good fight!
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Nick, there's a forum on the Grid site if you want that level of detail about how it works! But, from off the top of my head:

I remember the IWOC from my previous Impreza ownership. The Grid site isn't very informative. Can it run on multiple processors?
No.

How does the workunit download work?
In what sense 'work'? It downloads a block of data (via http, I think), chugs away for a few hours and then sends the results back. Repeat.

Will it download over a proxy?
Yes. HTTPS, Socks 4 or 5.

Is there a facility like Setiqueue to control several workstations from a server?
No.

Are there any compatability issues?
How long is a piece of string? If you really mean any issues, then of course there are - I don't know of any piece of software that doesn't. If you mean, are there any that have caused me any problems in clocking up over 5 years of CPU time across numerous PCs and Windows versions, then no.

Does the software auto upgrade itself?
Yes - although there hasn't been any upgrade necessary for some time.

How will the Grid system impact on the new Boinc (Seti2) software being designed now?
What?

Which drug company benefits from the work?
Oxford University chemistry dept. As to whom they might license any useful findings I've no idea, you'd better ask them directly. Frankly if I ever get cancer I doubt I'll very much care who makes the pills. I'll just be thankful that they exist and that the time wasn't wasted looking for little green men whom I'll never meet.
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Originally Posted by AndyC_772
... I'll just be thankful that they exist and that the time wasn't wasted looking for little green men whom I'll never meet.
WOW you're grumpy about Seti for some reason? It must have been something I said!

More info about BOINC is here: http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/ap/

BOINC expands on the distributed computing ideas behind Seti@Home. However BOINC allows users to use the same client running on their pc to run their choice of distributed computing workunit. It also allows several choices at once. So for instance, you could set your client to run 60% Cancer research & 40% DNA folding research.

BOINC is currently in beta testing.
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Sorry Nick, it's nothing personal. For me it's just a question of priorities.

There's a very good chance that one day I, or someone I care about, will get cancer. Therefore, I think that working towards a cure is a worthwhile use of my spare CPU cycles.

On the other hand, whilst the discovery of little green men might be a profound and life-changing experience for many, it wouldn't have anything like the same impact on me as being told I have cancer. I also believe that the latter is massively more likely to actually happen.

Think of it this way: the Earth is about four and a half billion years old. Humans have been transmitting radio signals for about a hundred years, or 1/45,000,000 of the time the Earth has been around. It's also not unlikely that humanity will wipe itself out in the next few thousand years - or at least, stop transmitting radio signals for some other reason. Assuming that aliens follow a similar evolutionary and technological path to ourselves, how many Earth-like planets do we have to scan to have a chance of picking up a signal?
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Is there an active Scoobynet Seti group?
Yup...

http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/s...am_169946.html

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