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Old 13 March 2004, 11:33 AM
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my mate was caught buying fake dvd's off a street trader and now he's been summoned to court. does anyone know what he's likely to get if he pleasds guilty?

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Old 13 March 2004, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by the chosen one
my mate was caught buying fake dvd's off a street trader and now he's been summoned to court. does anyone know what he's likely to get if he pleasds guilty?

thanks for advice.
**** all - I can't even believe they are taking him to court. Are you sure he's hasn't just been Summonsed as a witness? If the fake DVDs are available to buy in the shops go and buy them and say the copys were bought as back-ups because you're sick of your kids/nephews/whoever scratching the originals.
Old 13 March 2004, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by the chosen one
my mate was caught buying fake dvd's off a street trader and now he's been summoned to court. does anyone know what he's likely to get if he pleasds guilty?

thanks for advice.

Hes probably going to get a slap on the wrist. Presumably the trader was arrested too? If not then theres no case.

He could maybe argue he didnt know they were fake? Depends on what the titles were.


On a slightly different note. If HMV werent forced into selling DVDs for around £18-20 then maybe more people would buy legal ones. Especially now its getting harder to buy on VHS when they were only circa £13.And the trade for pirate ones only happens because the DVDs are availiable 6 months before the UK in the US. Which creates a demand.
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They will ask him if he can get any 'Bluey's', and then slip him 20 quid.
Old 13 March 2004, 08:24 PM
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Pretty sure it's not an offence to buy them.Only to sell/produce them.
Old 13 March 2004, 09:01 PM
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It's not an offence to download them either, uploading well thats a different matter.
Old 13 March 2004, 11:22 PM
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It is an offence to download films/music, because you are creating a copy....
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6points, £350 fine & 8 week ban

oh and 50hours community service
Old 14 March 2004, 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Reffro
It is an offence to download films/music, because you are creating a copy....
Your not, the uploader did that for you.

Subscribe to a good newserver and download all day long and you will never get prosecuted, try to upload anything and you will get a warning letter the next day.

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Old 14 March 2004, 10:51 AM
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the friend in question doesn't speak english very well and genuinely didn't realise they were fake. he had the police search his flat and evrything. should he plea guilty to get it over and done with or plead not guilty and go through a long court case>?
Old 14 March 2004, 10:53 AM
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A no-brainer.

All he has to say is he thought they were genuine and the trader was legal.
Old 14 March 2004, 11:07 AM
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Hello

Are you really sure about the facts? There is no way that the Police have rights to search a flat simply because your friend was buying a fake DVD on the street. Unless he was doing a deal to distribute and even then there would be no proof.

No drugs? They didn't find a weapon on him?

Steve.
Old 14 March 2004, 11:26 AM
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I wouldn't bother claiming that you bought them for 'back-ups' because the originals keep getting damaged as they'll demand to see the originals.

Just state the facts and that he genuinely thought they were OK and it's a matter of whether the courts believe him or not.
Old 14 March 2004, 12:08 PM
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he was definitely NOT distributing them. no drugs, no weapon. in fact in the flat they didn't find anything at all.
Old 14 March 2004, 02:19 PM
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Sounds like they're using your mate as a grass by proxy. If he pleads guilty to buying counterfeit DVDs then the case against the seller is stronger.
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Uh oh. Buying copied DVD/VHS/games etc, according to Mr Blunkett this is funding terrorism.

Could be held indefinately without trial!
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he will be charged with recieving stolen property, the cinemas can sue for the the infringement of their intelectual copyrights. he wont get done at all, slap on the wrists.

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Old 14 March 2004, 09:06 PM
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Wouldn't that be a case for the civil courts though,not the criminal ones?
Sounds to me like they think he's involved in selling them.
Old 15 March 2004, 01:45 AM
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You wouldnt have your house searched purely for buying a dodgy DVD...........

There must be more to it.
Old 15 March 2004, 08:10 AM
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Did they obtain a search warrant just because someone bought a dodgy DVD?
Old 15 March 2004, 12:08 PM
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All he needs to say is that he believed the discs were genuine and bona fide (ie. not copies, bought in good faith). There's no way that the courts can prove that he didn't.
Old 15 March 2004, 03:06 PM
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what was the "content" on these dvd's cant belive he would have his house searched for buying some dvd copies of normal films. The films taken from him yes, but house searced !!. they most of thought he was distributing them or making further copies.

all you can do is be truthful, if he bought the dvd's as he thought they were genuine articles, depends what the circumstances are i suppose, ie if it was blatantly obvious they were copies or he had a sign out or something :-)
Old 15 March 2004, 04:41 PM
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The police/courts aren't totally stupid - pleading that you thought they were genuine is about as likely to succeed as pleading against a speeding offence that you didn't realise you were going so fast.
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