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Old Feb 17, 2004 | 11:09 PM
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From http://uk.news.yahoo.com/040217/325/em96k.html:

Until now, Britain and Ireland were the only EU countries to say they would impose no restrictions on their labour markets on citizens from the mostly ex-communist accession states.
So, Britain would be (and probably still is) the only EU country who will welcome the influx of cheap labour. How completely stupid.

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Old Feb 17, 2004 | 11:21 PM
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Why on earth we can't devise a system similar to Oz is beyond me!

It's not like they are even over crowed in a country that size, yet they still regulate intake of people.

For instance: if you have a skill that Britain needs then you are in, if not then tough!

PS Don't get me started on asylum!
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 06:24 AM
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Don't you read the newspapers? Summit today between Germany, France and UKto discuss precisely this issue. UK measures to be announced to MPs on Monday.
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 06:26 AM
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Its because we are carrying a lot of thick lazy people in this country who vote for the party they perceive as most likely to give them freebies and handouts. Invariably this means that said party will also be in favour of nanny state policies aswell as making no distinction between our own countrymen and illegal immigrant bludgers when it comes to giving out those handouts.
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 09:26 AM
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According to the Sunday Times, the population growth is slowing down so rapidly here that we will need to proactively encourage immigration in order to keep the economy going, if not there may not be enough taxes to pay out state pensions in a few generations.

This is all open to perception, but it did say that Scotland currently encourages immigration.
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 09:41 AM
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Officials are/ have been stating there is a labour shortage in this country- its when u start to look at where these shortages are and in what sectors it gets scary- u could argue effectively that the Uk is a true european/ global free market labour economy where our wage levels/skill levels etc attract peoples from lesser economies to wk here in skilled jobs for less pay and unskilled jobs for pay UK citizens wouldnt get out of bed for..... add to that the reduction in children born per couple & the huge increase in weath needed to support old people, it stacks up nicely for the Govnt.

I do hope that there will be a positive backlash against the shortsighted/ I want everything now sector of 18yr old+ english people who one day may wk out that u do need to get an education then wk your way up through the job mkt- not expect to earn 25K for turning up in the morning with a bull**** degree/ or some other phoney qualification.

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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 10:15 AM
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According to the Sunday Times, the population growth is slowing down so rapidly here that we will need to proactively encourage immigration in order to keep the economy going, if not there may not be enough taxes to pay out state pensions in a few generations.
This is not a sustainable solution though. More people will indeed raise more tax, but there will be more people demanding services provided by that tax, hence no overall gain. The ONLY sustainable way to increase the economy is for the government to work efficiently, for wasted handouts to be eliminated, for freeloaders to get off their backsides and start working, the country to actually start producing and exporting again and to start looking after its own affairs before those of other countries.

We managed to have a strong economy with less people in the past. Why must we now pack our little island to plague proportions in order to remain economincally viable?

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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 12:44 PM
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Of course the Poles will suffer if they lose all their doctors etc. If we are short then make sure that more Brits find it worthwhile to enter the medical profession. Just moving problems from one country to another unfairly.

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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 03:17 PM
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B2Z:

My wife is Polish, she can explain it to you in great detail what is wrong with the English school system!!

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