polarbearit

4 * Software testers required to start next week until 25th July.
Manual Testing for a financial - Nothing fancy.

£25/hour, Location Swindon

CV's to me by 3pm today - jon@nettery.com

(No agencies as we already have preferred supplier agreement)

Badger Stuffer

Then your PSL is sh1te if you have to advertise on here as they are clearly not supplying you with the right CV's.

IMHO.

polarbearit

Got to be onsite I'm afraid...

Badger - PSL is fine, just wanted to give Scoobynetters the chance

[Edited by polarbearit - 6/11/2003 10:26:50 AM]

MarkO

BS - you're forgetting two things. Firstly, he's being nice to let people on here have a chance at getting the jobs - there's a fair few IT types looking for work on SN.

Secondly, it's a software testers job. As anyone in the IT world knows, software testers rate somewhere below mealworms and estate agents in terms of popularity, skills and importance. So even the best agency in the world would have trouble finding decent CVs to submit for such a position.

(BTW, to anyone who reads this who currently works in QA or as a software tester, every offence intended ).

MarkO

Now there's a sentence you don't often hear.

sexy wrx69

I was dazzled by the wage and didnt know what i was saying!!!!


Honest guv!!!!

ptholt

'BTW, to anyone who reads this who currently works in QA or as a software tester, every offence intended'

there speaks a guy who writes bug ridden code to have such an attitude, must be sick of the bug reports heading his way

says the 15 year experienced qa/test manager

MarkO

My code's excellent. Never had a bad report from a QA department about it.

First company I worked for we fired the entire QA department 'cos they were totally useless. Ended up QAing the software ourselves.

Second company I worked for, we fired the entire QA department because (wait for it...) they were totally useless. We QA'd the software ourselves.

My last client had a slightly better QA team. We still had a couple of incidents where they had to be reprimanded after claiming that they couldn't test the software because (and I quote) "It had bugs in".

polarbearit

LMAO at the testing stereotypes...

Any testers I hire will of course be a valid member of the team!

Jon (Dev PM)

TopBanana

Ahem Mark, you're talking to someone who's actually seen your code, be careful what you say!

ptholt

youve never had a bad report as by the sound of it you've never worked with (thats a keyword here, dev and test should with each other not against) a decent qa, like me

MarkO

James - remember, the programmer's code says to never divulge a fellow developer's secrets.

TopBanana

polarbearit

Well thanks to those that sent CV's...

stevencotton

Actually the "Programmer's Code" is to share it with everyone that's interested, looks like you've been doctrined by MS, so have some of my pity

carl

Yep, that's the way to be sure that you've got a high quality product

polarbearit

The power of scoobynet -

We've hired someone who found out about the job here!

Got another job next week for another tester for a different team...

£22/hour/ISEB foundation required/Swindon Based/3 month contract.

jon@nettery.com if interested, and don't bother if your not available or intend to commute from Essex each day

met

ive been doing a load of QA Recruitment of late & really struggled to find good people, are people not bothering with QA thesedays then?

carl

Have they ever bothered?
Can you e-mail me with details of the sort of QA roles you've got? I'm looking for a new contract in the near future, and whilst QA isn't what I'm doing at the moment (I'm doing IP network design) it is something I've done in the past, and quite happy to return to if the circumstances are right.

IWatkins

Our QA is in house nowadays. We ship the software to the users and wait for the bug reports via the HelpDesk

Seriously, it does seem as testing seems to be that bit on the end of a project that the project managers believe can be dropped if the rest of the project overruns. Poor state of affairs.

Cheers

Ian

ptholt

Personally speaking as a contract qa manager the problem i find with qa/testing is that in a depressed market you get people who cannot get contracts in there normal field (networking, support, developing (below average ones normally) deciding they can easily become testers, this not only floods the market with lots of 'testers' but also dilutes the roles available or at worst makes testers who have done it for years somewhat devalued due to weight of numbers applying, my opinion on that is that those who do come in surely can't help with the image marko has of testing when the chances are they could have been staffed by people who are not strictly testers.

carl

Hey! I hope you're not referring to me. I spent three years working in an SQA department

MarkO

In my experience, most people who work in QA are people who couldn't cut the mustard as developers.

ptholt

well i did once have a look at going into dev about 12 years ago as a cobol developer (mainframe) and had to sit some strange 4 hour exam comprising 5 questions all of which were big flow charts and were of the 5*3 if answer less than 90 go back and repeat, if higher then divide by 2 till answer under 8 etc variety.

First two questions were fine, 3 was pretty hard but 4-5 were a mare tho and the numbers were into hundreds of thousands and fractions and i went into meltdown, that was the end of my interest in dev.

Any job were you had to have the brains to do all that in your head but not have the common sense to use a calculator was beyond me!

carl

Never had the inclination to go into dev. I'm pretty much out of the software caper altogether now (apart from when I castigate someone for their exceptionally poor release management procedures )

polarbearit

Top for anyone looking for an IT contract...

met

clients that i cam recruiting for are not interested in x developers (failed developers) they are genuily looking for career testers, or perhaps x support people who where tired of supporting applciations that kept going wrong & gained interest in testing form that respect, any testers looking? email metin@spring.com

polarbearit

hey met - thats cheeky

CV's by midday tomorrow please!

polarbearit

Last time to the top - email me this morning if your interested

Defiant STI

Any chance of a teleworker

[Edited by Defiant STI - 6/11/2003 10:16:21 AM]