DazV

There's a rumour going around they've cut the F1 cars from the European release version.

I seriously hope this isn't true, just so they can hit their deadlines (July 20th)

-DV

PS: In case anyone didn't know, GT3 in Japan includes some hidden F1 replicas of all Senna's cars, but without livery as they don't have the licences for them.

DavidBrown

Doesn't bother me, there are plenty of F1 sims out there.

I'd rather have it on the 20th without them, than wait any longer.

DazV

Just seems a shame - the UK market is bigger than Jap an US market, yet we get screwed with delayed release dates and 'letter box' size screens, to compensate for the UK machine running slower than the US one.

Don't know why I'm complaining - I bought a US machine to overcome the above.

-DV

Markus

This is interesting as I thought the F1 cars were a 'prize' of sorts for wining certain things. Pretty sure that the faq on granturismo.com mentioned this.

Dario

DazV,

F1 cars are in Euro release!

Regards

Dario

DazV

Dario - EXCELLENT!

Markus - yeah you have to 'win' them, but I was told they may be dropped for the Euro release. Thankfully Dario knows different.

Picked up the GT3 A-Spec box in Electronic Boutique yesterday, mmmmmmm, nice...

TRIGGER

Can somebody explain these comments about the ps2 in the US being faster than ours ?

DazV

Trigger...

Basically, US & Japanese consoles draw the screen 60 times a second and that screen is smaller and therefore quicker to draw compared to the larger dimensions of the European TV screen (PAL)

The result is that the US and JAP versions of games run smoothly at full screen, but when they do the conversion to the European version (PAL), the quality suffers and we end up with a slightly slower (jerkier) version when compared to the US version. Some poor conversion even reduce the size of the PAL screen (letterbox effect) in an effort to draw less information and keep the game speed up.

Hopefully the programmers who've done GT3 A SPec will do a top notch conversion to the PAL version and there'll be very little difference.

-DV


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kryten

NTSC uses 525 lines, 60fps (interlaced)
PAL uses 625 lines, 50fps (interlaced)

The letterboxing is normally due to not increasing the screen size (ie drawing 525 lines on a 625 line screen), plus laziness!

However, MOST TVs build recently are perfectly capable of dealing with an NTSC/PAL60 signal, hence the '60hz' test on dreamcast games...

RonaldoH

Popped into my local Electronic Boutique this morning to reserve my copy. Spoke to the manager who thought he was officially 'the' dogs bollocks and he smirked and said "I've been playing it for a while" in a kind of ner ner ne ner ner voice. I had to leave my number, so got my card out and said "If you ever want to drive a real one of the cars, come and see me"....

I laughed like a kid when I walked out of the shop as clearly he was bemused. A woman looked at me in a weird way as I was practically crying.

lol

Should be ready on the 20th, if not I will post the store I went into and we can go and Mug Trevor, my local store manager.

Rock On
Ron

DazV

Incidentally here's the music tracks that are in the US version:

Again - Lenny Kravitz
Are You Gonna Go My Way? - Lenny Kravitz
Satisfied - 8 Stops 7
Stop the Rock (Mint Royale Mix) - Apollo Four Forty
Mad Skillz – Mic Chekka - BT
Break In - CiRRUS
Glowl - daiki kasho
Mirage - daiki kasho
Obscure - daiki kasho
Sky scraper - daiki kasho
Strike breaker - daiki kasho
Go Gran Turismo - Dave Aude
Call It Brisco (And Why Not?) - Elite Force
99 Red Balloons (Adapted from ’99 Luftballons) - Goldfinger
As Good as it Gets - Grand Theft Audio
Champion - Grinspoon
Stone Free - Jimi Hendrix
Turbo Lover - Judas Priest
Def Beat - Junkie XL
Crash - Methods of Mayhem
Kickstart My Heart - Motley Crue
Never Enough - Papa Roach
Super Nova Goes Pop - Powerman 5000
Determination - Raekwon
Dogg's Turismo 3 - Snoop Dogg
She Sells Sanctuary - The Cult

Mr.Cookie

Been playing it in Game today and also reserved now i've just got to skive of on that friday

Daz i hope that Cult song is in uk release

Ronnie LOL

Si

roadrunner

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by RonaldoH:
<B>
Should be ready on the 20th, if not I will post the store I went into and we can go and Mug Trevor, my local store manager.
[/quote]

Ron, Let me know the time and place and I'll give you a hand. Just as long as you know he'll have more than one copy on him .......I hate waiting, epecially when the date for what you are waiting for is so close...Haha

DazV

Mr Cookie, yeah that track is great!

On another note, just checked FedEx Tracking - my copy of Gran Turismo 3 A Spec (US version) is flying over the Atlantic right now!!!

Whoopppeeee!!

Adam M

how does dario know for definite? Is he the guy that works in the industry?


Also, ronnie, well done mate, I love doing that! May give it a try myself tonight!

The Secam version available in japan uses a screen refresh rate of 70Hz so is even faster which is cool.

All my previous consoles have been jap, but I finally got sick of not knowing where to get games from and japanese instructions, I plumped for a ps2 from the uk, but am beginning to regret it as I could have had the games ages ago.

Incidentally, someone has offered me a all regions all discs adaptor for the ps2 for £20.

Anyone know how and if these work?

Dario?

DazV

Adam, you can get region free in 2 ways for the PS2:

1. Region free chip - needs soldering into PS2
2. Boot disk and region free memory card

More info:

Adam M

Daz, that is great.

Can anyone comment on which is the best way to go in terms of setting up the dvd player for mutli regional access?

I already have a top line sony multi regional player, but cant watch the new enhanced regional block discs such as charlies angels.

Dont know which thing to choose for ps2, and dont want to have to send it away for chipping.

Perhaps this disc and memory card thing?

DazV

Sorry Adam, I've tried neither yet.

I'm sure if you email madeira at that url I posted, they'd give you an honest answer - they're excellent for that.

-DV

gregh

Datel Region X for £15.99 seems to be the business for multi-region, doesn't invalidate the warranty at all, also fixed the green scrfen issue.!

greg

RB5SCOTT

Pre-ordered my copy today from Game
£110 for GT3 & GT steering wheel

DazV

There's good news for owners of the Guillemot Force Feedback Steering Wheel, the PAL version of Gran Turismo 3 is compatible with the wheel. So no need to splash out on the new Logitech wheel. According to a post at GranTurismo.com the wheel works fine with the only problem being that there is no button to change the camera, but as there's an option to set the default view in the menu it shouldn't be an issue.

RB5SCOTT

Daz

Do you know if the GT3 wheel is force feedback and if it works with other titles?

cheers
Scott

DazV

GT3 wheel = Logitech Force Feedback wheel, with a few tweeks here and there.

If you already have the Logitech Force Feedback wheel (usb) for your PC, it *ALLEGEDLY* works with GT3, as some of the guys who had the Japanese version have confirmed this.

DavidBrown

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by kryten:
<B>NTSC uses 525 lines, 60fps (interlaced)
PAL uses 625 lines, 50fps (interlaced)

The letterboxing is normally due to not increasing the screen size (ie drawing 525 lines on a 625 line screen), plus laziness!

However, MOST TVs build recently are perfectly capable of dealing with an NTSC/PAL60 signal, hence the '60hz' test on dreamcast games...[/quote]

Even some PS2 games allow you to run in 60Hz
so we MAY have the option of a full speed version.

AndrewW

And for anyone who hasn't preordered yet, tesco.com have it on sale at the moment for 31 quid delivered.

Not bad at 15 quid of the high street price.

They tend to ship preorders before the release date too

Andrew.

The_Gza

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by gregh:
<B>Datel Region X for £15.99 seems to be the business for multi-region, doesn't invalidate the warranty at all, also fixed the green scrfen issue.!

greg[/quote]

Greg - any idea where I can buy this from? It it available in the shops (Electronics Boutique etc?)

Thanks

gregh

re Region X, best price seems to be:

Adam M

Excellent andrew, just ordered mine from there.

Thanks for the tip.

Been reading up on this region x, region free playstation mod.

It seems a bit convoluted to get it to play.

Basically I want it set up to be region 1 all the time. Does anyone know if, once enetered, the machine will saty like this, or does it need to be switched over everytime I switch it on.

I just cant seem to get a response from it!

The_Gza

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by AndrewW:
<B>And for anyone who hasn't preordered yet, tesco.com have it on sale at the moment for 31 quid delivered.[/quote]

Shiny gold star for Andrew for that one - I've pre-ordered mine as well.

Muchos gracias

TRIGGER

Just changed my order from elsewhere to Tesco's - thanks Andrew