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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 06:24 PM
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As above I've still not heard anything. Whats the law on this, have I got away with it...? Do they have to send something in the post in a certain time limit...?

55 mph in a 40 limit, not good

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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 06:29 PM
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was this a gatso or mobile ?

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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 06:36 PM
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Gatso in Bristol...it was a grey colour
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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 06:39 PM
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Scoobykev ,,,,,,, know Bristol very well , do you know the name of the road ?

also you are meant to recieve a notice letter within 2 weeks to notify you that you have been caught ,

so you may be lucky mate
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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 06:47 PM
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PCDude.

I was going down the road towards Sainsbury heading twards M32 junc 1. The camera was on nthe left going down the dual carridgeway where you have both Filton Ave on either side, do you know where I mean ....?

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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 06:55 PM
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scoobykev yip i know it ,, thats a bugger that 1 ,, and im quite sure its active too ,,,,,,,,,

just hope that your posty doesnt pop a surprise on you in the next day or so

Keep us posted mate ,,,,,,,,,

one thing i check out when im driving out of area mate is this site , very very usefull

http://www.ukgatsos.com/
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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 06:58 PM
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Is it grey colour or yellow Gatso...? Please don't tell me its active .....boooohoooooo

POINTS + POINTS + POINTS + POINTS = 4 of the *******
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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 07:03 PM
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so do they have to write to you in two weeks??

thought it could be up to six months!

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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 07:07 PM
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All I can suggest is to get a radar detector. I got a snooper S5 about 5 months ago. saved my license on many occasions. I do about 150 miles a day for work. Worth getting one. £300 or £60 a time each time you get caught.
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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 07:10 PM
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So is it 2 weeks or 6 months.....

Kev...
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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 07:13 PM
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Phil, yep 2 weeks to notify you of an offence (post depending, so in reality about 17 days in total), 6 months is how long they have (although they can extend this if they have unexepected problems) to prosecute you (ie you get pulled by a police car, shown vid... then they have 6 months to get you to court).
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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 07:14 PM
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As far as i know it's 2 weeks... plus a couple of days.

I do know they get longer to 'do you' if you're using the company car as they need more time to trace it to you... think this was about 6 weeks tho.

i think you've survived tho

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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 07:18 PM
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It happened on the 19/1/03 and now its 05/2/03. Thats 17 days....

Kev..
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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 07:20 PM
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How do you know its 14 days (2 weeks) that they must send a NIP...where is the evidence for this. I'm not saying I don't believe you, but I'd like to get some sleep tonight

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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 07:27 PM
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Here you go, check out this site:

http://www.speed-trap.co.uk/Accused_...ge/The_Law.htm

This is what they say

"This is that all important bit that people keep asking me about. It pertains to the 14 day rule that surrounds service of an NIP. As with all traffic offences in the UK, an NIP is required for prosecution to proceed. If you're stopped at the scene however (for example, by a radar-gun-toting traffic policeman), then a verbal NIP is sufficient. Otherwise it must be in writing. So theoretically, if you've not heard anything after 3 weeks, you got away with it. Not, of course, that the police don't get the calculations wrong from time to time - there's no better way to knock the smile off a prosecutors face than to ask if they can prove service of an NIP."
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Old Feb 6, 2003 | 02:41 PM
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Well its been 18 days since I last got flashed by a Gatso. I don't want to get my hopes up, but I may of got off with it from what people are saying

Bring on more days....

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Old Feb 6, 2003 | 02:47 PM
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Go into your local police station, with your hands up and plead guilty.

tell them all the details, and pay the fine.

chin one of the coppers if they tell you to get lost.

it is your right as a taxpayer to get locked up...

BB (Keep me posted)
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 11:02 AM
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Any news? No letter I take it?
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 11:27 AM
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If you need the evidence, here it is... :

Section 1(1) (c) of the Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988 states that before certain offences can be prosecuted:

**A notice setting out the possibility of a prosecution must have been sent to the driver or registered keeper of the vehicle within 14 days of the offence.

Section 1(a) of the same act states:

**An NIP required by this section to be served on any person may be served on that person as follows:
*1.By delivering it to him
*2.By addressing it to him and leaving it at his last known address or
*3.By sending it by registered post,recorded delivery service or first class post addressed to him at his last known address.

An NIP shall be deemed for the purposes of section 3 above to have been served on a person if it was sent by registered post or recorded delivery service addressed to him at his last known address,notwithstanding that the notice was returned as undelivered or was for any other reason not received by him.
The service of the NIP shall in every case deemed to have been complied with unless and until the contrary is proved.
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 02:39 PM
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No letter as yet

Get in there my son !
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 04:13 PM
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A Notice of Intended Prosecution (NIP) must be sent to the registered keepers last known address within 14 days of the commision of any offence. Whether or not the keeper or driver actually recieves a copy is irelevant, it must be sent within the 14 days.

The NIP tells the R/O that an offence was committed, and that "Consideration will be given to the question of prosecuting the driver for one or more of the listed offences" which include:

Dangerous Driving,
Careless Driving,
Excess Speed,
Failing to conform to an Automatic Traffic signal,
Careless and dangerous cycling.

So you could recieve the NIP in 3 months time, but provided it was posted within 14 days them it is still legal.

A summons for any offence or information to give it its correct title must be presented to Magistrates within 6 months of the commission of an offence. The case may not be heard for a year or more, but providing the information is laid before magistrates within the 6 months then no statute of limitation applies.

Hope this helps.
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 06:55 PM
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One of my mates got done for 34 in 30 zone recently in essex by a fixed Gatso at 9 am on a Sunday morning.
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 07:52 PM
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But if it was posted within 14 days and the registered owner is my wife, then why haven't I received it. I mean the address on the log book is where we are now, so we should of had it through the post by now. Not unless they just stamp it for a specific date and just leave it cus of backlog, that way it looks as though it was posted within 14 days.....

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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 06:15 PM
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Still not heard anything....
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Old May 2, 2003 | 06:46 PM
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If it was grey then it may be one of the cameras that has been abandoned because it doesn't meet the new siting/visibility criteria. All live cameras MUST now be yellow or have a fluorescent stripe on the back.
I got flashed in Tewksbury last September and I am still waiting for the NIP in the post lol and that was a yellow one !

Its 2 weeks from the date of the offence but allow 3-4 days for the postal system as that doesn't count in the time interval.

Blutes

Edited to say "relax" you have got away with it mate.

[Edited by bluto22b - 2/5/2003 6:47:44 PM]
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Old May 2, 2003 | 07:13 PM
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Must have been flashed at least 30 times now. Mainly going towards one, looks like they cant get them to work properly 100% of the time. Got flashed for 26 in a 30 the other week . They dont cut down the trees and that causes it sometimes so there must be a few puzzled photograph developers. I had one flash just before I approached one and nothing in front or on the other side of the road LOL. Round where I am I think about 1 in 7 have cameras (which they move round) but they all have flasher units (so they all look live) and counters so they know where to site in next week . Chances are you came across an empty box with a flasher unit and the camera was in another box or it had run out of film.

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Old May 2, 2003 | 08:35 PM
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If it was grey then it may be one of the cameras that has been abandoned because it doesn't meet the new siting/visibility criteria. All live cameras MUST now be yellow or have a fluorescent stripe on the back.
Only areas where the force has opted into the cash for cameras policy do the cameras need to be painted yellow or have the strip. If the area does not keep any of the money from the camera, then it does not need to be painted.

Hence the reason why some areas have even painted the cameras black to try and blend them in.

[Edited by Dave_A - 2/5/2003 8:36:08 PM]
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 07:57 PM
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Just got off the phone to a copper who is a friend of mine, and what he explained is if the log book has the upto date address, then I should of received it within 14 days. If not then I've nothing to worry about

Regards

Kev..


Edited cus I wanted to

[Edited by ScoobyKev - 2/7/2003 7:58:28 PM]
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