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Old 05 February 2003, 12:06 PM
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Anyone have any details of what it entails?

I need to get out of this country, I'm sick to death of giving out 70% of my wages to look after other people...this country is sinking fast.

Why spend £150,000 on a 2 bedroomed semi when for the same money you can have a 5 bedroomed detached house with a double garage and a swiming pool. You don't have to give all your money to the government so they can pass it on to imigrants in 5 star hotels and lazy buggers who don't want to work and keep having more kids to get more money out of us.

Plus, you can fill your scooby up for about a tenner

Thats enough ranting, I'm winding myself up now...hehehe

So back to the question.......anyone know what I need.
I have money in the bank and a degree behind me for work prospects.

Thanks...

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Old 05 February 2003, 12:07 PM
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If you're looking for IT work in the US, forget it, the market is flatter than a witches tit.
Old 05 February 2003, 12:20 PM
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1. Marry an American
2. I think the US Imigration do a lottery each year however the number of people they take is very small compared to the number of applicants.
Old 05 February 2003, 12:22 PM
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Even with a CISSP, CISA and CCNA?

I was chatting some some American mates from an online security community we run and they advised that although general IT work had died, security was still booming. Although this is not a certainty, it did raise my hopes.
Old 05 February 2003, 12:24 PM
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Kiwi...yeah the lottery thing is true, but they are not accepting applicants from the UK at present. They say there are too many there fomr the UK already
Old 05 February 2003, 12:30 PM
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hey dont the government run a lottery for asylum seekers over here?
and every ticket is a winner..... and those that dont buy a ticket win too!

Old 05 February 2003, 01:06 PM
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How about Canada?

I think it might be easier, standards of living similar, and they get snow which means more fun in a scoob! Big houses, cheap food, decaffinated Americans. Not bad.

Oh, and I think you can apply online and get an accurate response on whether or not you qualify just by filling in a form. Sounds easy.
Old 05 February 2003, 01:14 PM
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I'm doing some thinking too Gedi. Totally agree with you're views on this country.

Australia? Heard Canada is a great place to live.
Old 05 February 2003, 01:14 PM
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i know what you mean Gedi!

Get out while the going is good!

My uncle married an american and then got divorced a year later to get his green card.

So find a yankee **** star who wont be flatter than a 'witches tit' and be her co-star!
Old 05 February 2003, 01:17 PM
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I don't know if its true but i've had it suggested to me to go to Canada first. Its then allegedly easier to get into the US from there.
Old 05 February 2003, 01:20 PM
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Talk about economic migrants...

Isn't this the ULTIMATE in hypocrisy?
Old 05 February 2003, 01:27 PM
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'Isn't this the ULTIMATE in hypocrisy?'

Don't u live in portugal now?
Old 05 February 2003, 01:30 PM
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yeah, I already have all the details for Australia. I have done the test and passed. Its deffinetly an option. Sydney is an amazing place. A much better quality of life than the UK.
Old 05 February 2003, 01:51 PM
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Hey guys.... the grass ain't that much greener.... believe me.

I grew up in Canada and it would be my worst nightmare to go back there now....but that is only my opinion..... before making such a life changing decision then do some investigating before hand... being British you would probably have a better chance of getting into Canada than the US... the Yanks are still very 'Reds under the Beds'.

And don't think for one minute there isn't an immigration problem in Canada, difference is there's just a bit more space for them to spread out in ...


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Old 05 February 2003, 02:00 PM
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There are ways around the Green Card Lottery for UK residents apparently.
If any of your parents aren't UK nationals by birth, then you could qualify. Still a small chance though.

Why the US, and not Oz which could be easier to get into ?
Old 05 February 2003, 02:09 PM
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I already have all the details I need for Oz.
I don't have any questions about that. My choice will proably be either Oz or US, I was just looking for more info and opinions on the US because I don't have much as yet
Old 05 February 2003, 02:54 PM
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If you want to live in a place with low taxes, Canada is NOT the place to be.

Move to the US and get a "Green Card." That will let you stay up to 5 years (I think).

The job market here isn't that bad, it just isn't as good as it was. When unemployment gets over 5%, people here tend to freak out.

Since you're moving here, you do have an advantage. You are not tied down to a certain area. That means you can search the entire country for employment, not just 1 city.
Old 05 February 2003, 03:17 PM
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The only thing is, they won't accept thickos like Popeye P1 and Shrek there in the US. I can guarantee that..
Old 05 February 2003, 03:28 PM
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You're wrong AGAIN, K. They just voted one in as President...
Old 05 February 2003, 03:34 PM
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No thats not entirely true. Bush for all his faults is not a racist. He's human. His reponse to Iraq is more out of emotional context than anything. If I were in his shoes, I'd do the exact same thing. Punishing my enemies more than what was dished out to me in the first place (as what I did in the incident a year ago ). I mean, they did try to kill his daddy..
Old 05 February 2003, 04:12 PM
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Don't go to the USA, go to Canada instead.

We've had a US office for a while now, which I visit from time to time. I like America, but would not move there.

Now Canada, well, different prospect, basically 2.5 times cheaper to live out there. Mate was just looking at a very nice huge 2 bedroom house, was $169,000, which works out about £68,000 now, dunno about where you live, but I can't even get a 1 bed studio flat for that!
Old 05 February 2003, 04:23 PM
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thanks Markus,

You have just turned Canada into a possibility.
Are the jobs and lifestyle out there similar to the US?

e.g. us brits allways go out drinking friday, saturday and sunday.
Most other coutries find this very strange and look at us as alkies.
I don't wanna move somewhere what I consider boring. The great outdoors is not my idea of fun. I like fast cars, fast women and fast money and plenty of beer
Old 05 February 2003, 04:27 PM
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you dont half talk drivel Katana.

keep digging.

oh and get that help LMAO
Old 05 February 2003, 04:34 PM
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Now Canada, well, different prospect, basically 2.5 times cheaper to live out there.
Not true...

I have two Canadian cousins. They have lived in British Columbia, Ottawa, Montreal, and Toronto. They have both left Canada. One moved to the US (Dallas) and one moved to Australia. Why? High cost of living (ie, taxes), and a general lack of jobs.

Here's a house in my town that just sold for a little under $200,000:
Old 05 February 2003, 04:52 PM
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OMG a house like that in the UK would cost around $1,000,000 US
Old 05 February 2003, 04:54 PM
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And notice the three car garage!
Old 05 February 2003, 04:58 PM
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you dont half talk drivel Katana.
Wow thanks for the input..[/quote]

Just to give you a heads up, I spent half my childhood in the US. You? Probably never even been further than the dole office lol..
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actually, I think it would cost more that $1,000,000 US

If that house was bought in the south of the UK, your probably looking at closer to $2,000,000 US

Thats the kinda thing were dealing with day to day.
Old 05 February 2003, 05:25 PM
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Where I live in the Highlands a house like that is about £300,000 -dunno what that is in $'s but its way more than $200,000
Old 05 February 2003, 05:27 PM
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hotsam,
What did your cousins do? Bear in mind I'm in IT, and would be qualified as 'highly skilled' (am about 1 of about 10 people in the world with my level of experience) plus as it's an inter-company transfer I'd be guarenteed a job, so that's not a problem for me.

I must say that the house looks lovely and as said, it'd be at least £500,000 quid over here, so Can$200,000 would be about oooh, £80 - 100,000 which is fecking amazing value.

As for what Canada is like, well, never been there, yet! but Toronto has got to be more lively than St Louis, and certainly more lively than the little ol town of Columbia, IL. Have been told by a few people it's a great place to live, more friendly than America.

Just have to watch out for people saying 'aboot' and ending sentances with 'a'


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