Bailiffs??? WTF???
04 February 2003, 07:49 PM
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Get home tonight and there is a Notice of Bailiff's Attendance put thorough my door claiming a magistrates Liability Order for unpaid Council Tax on a property I sold six months ago??
It says they (three of them) attended with the intention of seizing goods as are necessary to discharge the debt of 389 quid??
WTF - can they do that? Can I just refuse them entry? What is the position I need advise quick please, as they may come back this evening
It says they (three of them) attended with the intention of seizing goods as are necessary to discharge the debt of 389 quid??
WTF - can they do that? Can I just refuse them entry? What is the position I need advise quick please, as they may come back this evening
04 February 2003, 07:58 PM
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They canny do it in Scotland, I know that much, the Scots though had the sense to tell them to get stuffed legally 
No consolation though, but hey, why not tell them you just 'dont agree' with 'their' opinion, see how far that gets ye
No consolation though, but hey, why not tell them you just 'dont agree' with 'their' opinion, see how far that gets ye
04 February 2003, 08:08 PM
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Firstly, get on to the Council ASAP and speak to them. They should be able to call the heavies off straight away if it's just a mix up.
Secondly, if you are in when they next turn up (and it hasn't been sorted with the council), give them the money (cash obviously). You should be able to reclaim this money later. If you don't have the cash, they are able to take enough property up to and exceeding the amount of the debt. They can take a £1000 TV to pay off your debt. They often look through the windows and earmark a particular item for removal the next time they visit. Obviously they don't accept cheques.
I think the bailiffs can eventually force entry after a certain number of unsuccessful visits.
Secondly, if you are in when they next turn up (and it hasn't been sorted with the council), give them the money (cash obviously). You should be able to reclaim this money later. If you don't have the cash, they are able to take enough property up to and exceeding the amount of the debt. They can take a £1000 TV to pay off your debt. They often look through the windows and earmark a particular item for removal the next time they visit. Obviously they don't accept cheques.
I think the bailiffs can eventually force entry after a certain number of unsuccessful visits.
04 February 2003, 08:11 PM
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Well, it does say at the bottom that there is still time to arrange to pay by installments [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] Plus their smelly expenses of course[img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
suppose I'll have to cough up [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] Of course the **** ain't answering his phone
Probably sat in some grubby pub somewhere with his mates eating chips
suppose I'll have to cough up [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] Of course the **** ain't answering his phone
Probably sat in some grubby pub somewhere with his mates eating chips
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04 February 2003, 08:29 PM
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They've probably seen and heard it all. Baseball bat would be nice, but would land me up in court. Basically I do actually owe these arrears, but the reason I didn't pay is because the property in Bristol was unoccupied, being done up ready to be sold and I am already paying heafy council tax here where I live. So it was money going to the council for nothing in return. Why didn't the b@stards give me a warning first? [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
**** it[img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] it's ruined my evening for sure [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
**** it[img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] it's ruined my evening for sure [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
04 February 2003, 08:45 PM
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Well if the Bailiffs turn up you have to pay them, and they will only accept cash.
You may want to check the DETR website to see if you have had all the exemptions you are entitled too. I found information on exemptions at http://www.local.dtlr.gov.uk/finance/ct.htm (really must learn how to make it clickable!)
I am not sure if that is the latest document on exemtions but its a start!
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You may want to check the DETR website to see if you have had all the exemptions you are entitled too. I found information on exemptions at http://www.local.dtlr.gov.uk/finance/ct.htm (really must learn how to make it clickable!)
I am not sure if that is the latest document on exemtions but its a start!
Chris
04 February 2003, 09:10 PM
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You do NOT have to let bailiffs in. If you do, though, they can seize items!
You need to get in touch with the council and with the Citizen's Advice Bureau.
Some of the advice on here is just utter crap.
You need to get in touch with the council and with the Citizen's Advice Bureau.
Some of the advice on here is just utter crap.
04 February 2003, 09:19 PM
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Once they have entered your property thay can take CERTAIN possesions of yours. But if you can show it does not belong to you.........Ie credit/rental agreements documents .They cannot touch them. The items do not belong to you.So they can make no claim to them.
04 February 2003, 09:27 PM
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Interesting that you don't need to let them in, though the police tell me that they will have a warrent of some kind[img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
cjones, please tell me more...
Everything I own is fully paid for so no leeway there. Think I'll have to take up thier offer of paying installments, jeez what a nightmare
cjones, please tell me more...
Everything I own is fully paid for so no leeway there. Think I'll have to take up thier offer of paying installments, jeez what a nightmare
04 February 2003, 09:31 PM
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Just going through this a.t.m. with the girlfriend.She was on the dole, yet the council have not record of it.
Fistly, ring the debt company, speak to them pleasantly and give your side of the story, they will then most likely give you two weeks to get your act together re: the council.
Ring the council, explain the situation, and ask them for time to get evidence to them that your not repsonsible for the costs.Evidence in this case wil be the agreement that your tenant signed when he let the property.
If everything else fails, pay the council driect, NOT the debt company, as they will add their bit onto the bill too.
Good Luck
Fistly, ring the debt company, speak to them pleasantly and give your side of the story, they will then most likely give you two weeks to get your act together re: the council.
Ring the council, explain the situation, and ask them for time to get evidence to them that your not repsonsible for the costs.Evidence in this case wil be the agreement that your tenant signed when he let the property.
If everything else fails, pay the council driect, NOT the debt company, as they will add their bit onto the bill too.
Good Luck
04 February 2003, 09:34 PM
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oops, see you sold the property, no difference though, get in touch with your solicitor for the appropriate paper work showing the date at which you sold the property on.
The council will take instalments too you know
The council will take instalments too you know
04 February 2003, 09:49 PM
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Rich, yes I sold after it was empty (gutted and referbished) for about 18 months. The amounts quoted I don't what periods these cover (ie since I sold it or before), so I need clarification. Before that I had a tennant for about 2 years. They were chasing me for that priod too, though I told them it was rented (I have a signed Landlord / Tenant agreement to this effect). I suspect they will try for that after this [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
04 February 2003, 09:59 PM
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AFAIK as previously mentioned do not let them into your house, if you do, they then have a right of entry to it (forcibly), even when you're not there. Get CAB help & fast.
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04 February 2003, 10:16 PM
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Uncle Buck...I'm trying to understand the situation you are in as all the above posts have been full of the ******* bailiffs and I'm so sorry for you/go get a baseball bat.BUT you have admited that you havn't paid what is due to the local council, if you disagreed with the amount then why wait for the bailiffs to turn up..........................................
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04 February 2003, 11:25 PM
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Well (kiss of death) nobody has turned up yet or returned my call so I guess I'm safe for tonight Time for a drink and a think...
UB
) nobody has turned up yet or returned my call so I guess I'm safe for tonight Time for a drink and a think...UB
05 February 2003, 03:24 AM
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Personally mate i would get a few of my mates to stay for a few days until its all sorted. Would love to see the baliffs try and take something with them behind me. Actually i would pay to see it.
Best of luck and dont forget to let us know how you get on.
Best of luck and dont forget to let us know how you get on.
05 February 2003, 08:36 AM
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Don't let them in, call the council and if they do get in say is all on HP, that way its not rightly yours till he end of the contracted period which is errr in 4 years time!!
05 February 2003, 11:06 AM
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Move all possesions into the loft. Take up the carpet and leave only a sofa in the living room. Get a blanket and cover it is the following substances:
Tea,
*** burns,
matches,
bits of tin foil,
pot noodle stains.
Once this has dried then throw it over the sofa.
Invite afew mates to live round your place for a few weeks. Brief them that the only condition is that they must lay on the floor when you tell them to.
Now.
get a box and fill it with the following:
Syringes (take the needles off though)
More bits of tin foil
dirty teaspoons
loads of spent matches
several belts
empty pot noodle cups.
Put a blanket next to it the box ready for use.
When the bailiffs come round, do the following.
Put the blanket on the bare floor,
Scatter the contents of the aforementioned box over the blanket.
tell your mates to lay on the blanket and on the sofa.
Loop the belts round your mates right arms.
Tell them to act like they have all passed out.
Then open the door.
When the baliffs come in, tell them the only thing of value is the sofa.
Then say "Its in the Brown room, come on in"
As they enter the "brown room" your friends should be doing good impressions of a bunch of skag heads, smacked to the eyeballs.
Ensure quite a few of them are on the sofa in question and ask them if they want to take it.
The answer should be no and your problems should be solved.
astraboy.
Tea,
*** burns,
matches,
bits of tin foil,
pot noodle stains.
Once this has dried then throw it over the sofa.
Invite afew mates to live round your place for a few weeks. Brief them that the only condition is that they must lay on the floor when you tell them to.
Now.
get a box and fill it with the following:
Syringes (take the needles off though)
More bits of tin foil
dirty teaspoons
loads of spent matches
several belts
empty pot noodle cups.
Put a blanket next to it the box ready for use.
When the bailiffs come round, do the following.
Put the blanket on the bare floor,
Scatter the contents of the aforementioned box over the blanket.
tell your mates to lay on the blanket and on the sofa.
Loop the belts round your mates right arms.
Tell them to act like they have all passed out.
Then open the door.
When the baliffs come in, tell them the only thing of value is the sofa.
Then say "Its in the Brown room, come on in"
As they enter the "brown room" your friends should be doing good impressions of a bunch of skag heads, smacked to the eyeballs.
Ensure quite a few of them are on the sofa in question and ask them if they want to take it.
The answer should be no and your problems should be solved.
astraboy.
05 February 2003, 11:24 AM
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[img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img][img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]Effing tax dodgers like you make it cost way more for the rest of us[img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img][img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] Stop crying and pay up IMHO
05 February 2003, 12:06 PM
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I should have paid it, but I didn't. I suppose that I was hoping they would right it off once I sold it
Have the rest of us who pay what is due and owing subsidise those who don't.[img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
This debt is from a considerable time ago. Why waste time on demand letters and protracted debate with you over the debt?
You've had plenty of time to pay it. Councils have to take this action because of non payers.
Don't expect any sympathy [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
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