Why is this bloke and his associates still in our country??? :mad:
14 October 2002, 01:41 PM
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http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...142731,00.html
The bloke in the first picture with the hook hand runs the Finsbury Park Mosque in London and has links to Bin Laden. He freely speaks at rallies denouncing this country and the West and backs the terrorist actions all the way. [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
What the **** is he still doing in this country free to rome about and claiming disability allowance when he is part of Bin Laden's intelligence in this country? [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
He hates this country so why isn't he deported at the very least? I think he should be arrested under the prevention of terrorism act among other acts he could be arrested under. [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
I just can not understand why these scum are allowed to reside in this country and be so blatantly associated with terrorism. [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
Surely there will come a time if he is not got rid of officially someone will pay him a visit and do the country a favour [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
The bloke in the first picture with the hook hand runs the Finsbury Park Mosque in London and has links to Bin Laden. He freely speaks at rallies denouncing this country and the West and backs the terrorist actions all the way. [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
What the **** is he still doing in this country free to rome about and claiming disability allowance when he is part of Bin Laden's intelligence in this country? [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
He hates this country so why isn't he deported at the very least? I think he should be arrested under the prevention of terrorism act among other acts he could be arrested under. [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
I just can not understand why these scum are allowed to reside in this country and be so blatantly associated with terrorism. [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
Surely there will come a time if he is not got rid of officially someone will pay him a visit and do the country a favour [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
14 October 2002, 01:50 PM
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Probably just wants the attention gained from spouting a lot of hot air. We've let them have decent lives over here and racism has only just died out on the whole. I can't see them biting the hand that fed them so to speak - if there is any serious terrorism threat over here then there'll be plenty of nutters queing up to burn down their mosques and our society will change beyond all recoginition. Its the buggers out in the caves which are more dangerous - they don't have any nice comfortable lives to lose.
14 October 2002, 02:06 PM
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I can't see them biting the hand that fed them so to speak
They would f**k us over the first chance they get[img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] They are laughing in our faces IMHO
14 October 2002, 02:18 PM
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Because they are gob$hites they can be relied upon to be careless idiots. Thus our own intelligence community can keep tabs on who they deal with. If we send 'em underground we lose the contact. Geddit?
As the ministry of propoganda in London will tell you, "a couple of pints of Fullers and they're grassing up the mullahs".
As the ministry of propoganda in London will tell you, "a couple of pints of Fullers and they're grassing up the mullahs".
14 October 2002, 02:22 PM
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They are already ******* us over thats the whole point!!!! [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
Wonder what sort of reception i would get if I went to his Mosque and told him what I thought of his beliefs and Al Quaeda and that he should get the **** out of our country. And then held an anti Al Quaeda rally outside the front door of his Mosque? I bet the police would be round faster than u could say 'Bin Laden is a ****' and remove everyone! Yet they get to hold their rallies and slag this country off and admit terrorism and the police don't even batter an eyelid about it [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
In fact might have to try that one and see what ol' hook hand himself has to say! Bet if you are white you can't get within 100 yds of the Mosque
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Wonder what sort of reception i would get if I went to his Mosque and told him what I thought of his beliefs and Al Quaeda and that he should get the **** out of our country. And then held an anti Al Quaeda rally outside the front door of his Mosque? I bet the police would be round faster than u could say 'Bin Laden is a ****' and remove everyone! Yet they get to hold their rallies and slag this country off and admit terrorism and the police don't even batter an eyelid about it [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
In fact might have to try that one and see what ol' hook hand himself has to say! Bet if you are white you can't get within 100 yds of the Mosque
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14 October 2002, 02:28 PM
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I'm white and I was in a mosque on Saturday. Not the Finsbury Park one, fortunately. I believe the Muslim council or whatever they have are trying to get him evicted because he's bringing their religion into disrepute.
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14 October 2002, 02:46 PM
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Alcazar I totally agree with you unfortunately, the place will be protected big time. And to make things clear in no way am I anti Muslim, I am anti fooking terrorist scum bags, and understand that this bloke and his Mosque are an embarrasment to say the very least to the true Muslim community. I said no white person will get close on the basis that they will be protecting Hook Hand from any confrontation
The government are ******* spineless because they are **** scared of doing anything to remove this bloke from the country. And as far as leaving him there for intelligence purposes, they wont find out diddly squat as MI5/MI6 couldn't follow a James Bond plot, let alone intercept communications and gather intelligence on this lot.
The government are ******* spineless because they are **** scared of doing anything to remove this bloke from the country. And as far as leaving him there for intelligence purposes, they wont find out diddly squat as MI5/MI6 couldn't follow a James Bond plot, let alone intercept communications and gather intelligence on this lot.
14 October 2002, 03:12 PM
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I'm not a bad shot
Don't think I'm quite upto the standards of Leon tho and unfortunately don't own any high velocity sniper rifles!
I'll have to keep an eye on the for sale section for any Barrett's going cheap
In case any one finds one of these in their loft please let me know
Don't think I'm quite upto the standards of Leon tho and unfortunately don't own any high velocity sniper rifles!
I'll have to keep an eye on the for sale section for any Barrett's going cheap
In case any one finds one of these in their loft please let me know
14 October 2002, 05:19 PM
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thats the price you pay for living somewhere with free speech.
The alternative is a country where people who say things that someone doesnt like (the government, for example) are executed, deported or imprisoned. Anyway - the "bloody government" comments are misguided, if the guy hasnt done anything outside the law he can say what he likes.
Would you really want the situation to be different ? Do you think anyone who speaks out against the government or western culture should be deported ?
14 October 2002, 05:36 PM
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Cookiemonster no I don't want that at all, what I want is someone who denounces and threatens this country, denounces and threatens the West and everything to do with it and blatantly praises Sept 11th and all other terrorist attacks and urges for more to be carried out to be removed from this country. That is not about freedom of speech, its called being an enememy of the state who is a risk to national security and therefore should not have the freedom to walk around this country as he pleases claiming benefits such as disability allowance and leading the life of riley. He is taking the bloody p!ss and loving every minute of it. [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
What reason do you believe he is entitled to live in this country? Do some research into this blokes activities and then tell me he is no threat and full of hot air. His beliefs have no part to play in society other than to murder and mame innocent people. He is hiding under the umbrella of islam by running a mosque to legitamately reside in this country when his only reason for being here is to be part of the Al Quaeda network and to drum up support and recruit more members as well as having dealings with active terrorist cells in this country. [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
He is bad news and its time the Government did something about the way terrorists are allowed to enter this country and live here off of benefits. As I put in another post sometime ago, Tony Blair was handed a list of residents of this country some weeks ago who had been tracked to have links with terrorism and in particular Al Quaeda. His response was it was sensationalism and that he wasn't going to do anything about it. It is a total joke he can run this country and kiss Bush's **** and denounce terrorism when he wont do anything about the terrorists who already are right under his nose. [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
What reason do you believe he is entitled to live in this country? Do some research into this blokes activities and then tell me he is no threat and full of hot air. His beliefs have no part to play in society other than to murder and mame innocent people. He is hiding under the umbrella of islam by running a mosque to legitamately reside in this country when his only reason for being here is to be part of the Al Quaeda network and to drum up support and recruit more members as well as having dealings with active terrorist cells in this country. [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
He is bad news and its time the Government did something about the way terrorists are allowed to enter this country and live here off of benefits. As I put in another post sometime ago, Tony Blair was handed a list of residents of this country some weeks ago who had been tracked to have links with terrorism and in particular Al Quaeda. His response was it was sensationalism and that he wasn't going to do anything about it. It is a total joke he can run this country and kiss Bush's **** and denounce terrorism when he wont do anything about the terrorists who already are right under his nose. [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
14 October 2002, 05:58 PM
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you have to distinguish between acts of terrorism and people stating their views (no matter how twisted these views are)
Again - what's it got to do with the government ? he hasnt broken any laws, do you want the government to have the powers to deport anyone they dont like ?
Again - what's it got to do with the government ? he hasnt broken any laws, do you want the government to have the powers to deport anyone they dont like ?
14 October 2002, 06:09 PM
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I think the fact he is part of Al Quaeda (and there is evidence to prove this currently held by MI5/MI6 and which is why he is under 'observation') means he can be arrested under the prevention of terrorism act. Thats what the Government can do about it. HE IS A TERRORIST!!!! Thats got nothing to do with freedom of speech or expressing twisted beliefs, its about being actively part of the Worlds current number one terrorist organisation but being able to walk the streets freely continuing his involvement!
14 October 2002, 06:17 PM
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barryk's got a point here but i share others' discomfort and anger that this fruitloop is in our country. it sticks in my craw that he's here and the man's disrespect is beyond belief. i'm even less happy about him being able to use our social security system, which he does, taking taxpayers money and laughing in our faces.
but my acceptance of his presence is entirely conditional upon him being surveilled to the eyeballs, his emails and phone calls intercepted by GCHQ etc etc.
i'd rather we could keep an eye on him rather than he disappear in the hindu kush. as it stands, we can "deal" with him if we need to, because we can find him. and who knows what valuable intelligence he might accidentally give away if he is free to move and talk?
(there is always the possibility that he is, in fact, a double-agent: one of our own intelligence assets, in place to flush out as yet unidentified fundamentalist muslims in our midst. it's not beyond the realms of possibility and this sort of thing was done regularly by both sides during the cold war. but let's not get too john le carre ...)
but, if he is *not* under surveillance and close monitoring then the government is clearly in breach of its responsibilities because this man is plainly contravening not only the anti-terrorism act but our race hatred laws as well. don't know about you lot but i'd really like to know whether or not our security services have been allowed to do their job on this one. but obviously that won't happen.
lyndon johnson once said "it's better to have your enemies inside the tent pi55ing out than outside pi55ing in." i sincerely hope that is the case with this (dangerous) nobber.
but my acceptance of his presence is entirely conditional upon him being surveilled to the eyeballs, his emails and phone calls intercepted by GCHQ etc etc.
i'd rather we could keep an eye on him rather than he disappear in the hindu kush. as it stands, we can "deal" with him if we need to, because we can find him. and who knows what valuable intelligence he might accidentally give away if he is free to move and talk?
(there is always the possibility that he is, in fact, a double-agent: one of our own intelligence assets, in place to flush out as yet unidentified fundamentalist muslims in our midst. it's not beyond the realms of possibility and this sort of thing was done regularly by both sides during the cold war. but let's not get too john le carre ...)
but, if he is *not* under surveillance and close monitoring then the government is clearly in breach of its responsibilities because this man is plainly contravening not only the anti-terrorism act but our race hatred laws as well. don't know about you lot but i'd really like to know whether or not our security services have been allowed to do their job on this one. but obviously that won't happen.
lyndon johnson once said "it's better to have your enemies inside the tent pi55ing out than outside pi55ing in." i sincerely hope that is the case with this (dangerous) nobber.
14 October 2002, 06:53 PM
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"thats the price you pay for living somewhere with free speech. "
Not in this Country...Go out and try it!!!!
Lets have a good riot.Tell them who's country it is.
Not in this Country...Go out and try it!!!!
Lets have a good riot.Tell them who's country it is.
14 October 2002, 07:04 PM
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Skipjack I agree with you on this, but I also fear that the security services arnt doing the job they are supposed to be doing on this bloke and his cronies. If they were then I think more would be seen in this country in terms of eliminating terrorist cells. Although I hope I am wrong on this and more is happening than we realise. However Bin Laden is a very clever man and I don't think communications between Finsbury Park Mosque and Al Quaeda wil be obvious and easy for interception.
I would prefer the man to be locked up under the prevention of terrorism act and stop him taking the bloody p!ss out of our country. He is getting away with far too much. [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
I would prefer the man to be locked up under the prevention of terrorism act and stop him taking the bloody p!ss out of our country. He is getting away with far too much. [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
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Well no way do I back BNP or their associates in any way as they are out and out racists but I am very surprised these organisations haven't made any contact with Finsbury Park Mosque and its leader. I thought they would have been jumping at the chance to rip him to shreds. I don't want that like I said, I want him locked up, but I certainly wouldnt be upset if I woke up one morning and saw on the news that he had been had by an organisation such as BNP. Hook Hand at rallies has been racist and promoted racism so in my view he is no better than BNP etc.
15 October 2002, 09:56 AM
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Hey Bravo, you forget, BNP can only take on 95yr old asian mothers and harmless 15yr old school kids.
Put a semi-automatic gun in front of them, and they will be crying all the way back to their mumsywumsies!!!
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Put a semi-automatic gun in front of them, and they will be crying all the way back to their mumsywumsies!!!
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15 October 2002, 01:14 PM
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beemer boy,
FYI
The BNP rarely do any action,they are trying to change their ways and peoples minds on the BNP.They are more into politics than "Action"
The NF,C18 and the B&H boys use a more "Direct"approach and on occasion use violence
I have never heard of a 95 year old women or 15 y/o schoolkids being attacked by the BNP,have you proof of this??
Oh what about that poor old 80y/o pensioner that was nearly beaten to death by a gang of Asians??
If you Know any people from these organisations i'm sure you wouldnt say what you typed to their faces,trust me
FYI
The BNP rarely do any action,they are trying to change their ways and peoples minds on the BNP.They are more into politics than "Action
"The NF,C18 and the B&H boys use a more "Direct"approach and on occasion use violence
I have never heard of a 95 year old women or 15 y/o schoolkids being attacked by the BNP,have you proof of this??
Oh what about that poor old 80y/o pensioner that was nearly beaten to death by a gang of Asians??
If you Know any people from these organisations i'm sure you wouldnt say what you typed to their faces,trust me
15 October 2002, 01:16 PM
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Here we go.
Beemerboy what has that immature drivel got to do with anything? If I put you unarmed in front of a semi automatic weapon you'd $hit youself too. It's easy to be brave cos you've played Counter Strike. Real life isn't like that.
If you read the news, BNP or rabid fscists or whatever term of abuse the establishment want to use, did turn up at the muslim hatred rallies. The metropolitan police threw a cordon around it so Hooky and chums could "express their views", the other folks evidently have no such rights.
Now I don't understand this. Whenever native "right wing" demonstrations are due, the "anti **** league" or whoever get the green light for a riot. However, foreign and openly anti UK "right wing" demonstrations will be FORCIBLY protected from anyone who doesn't agree with them.
I don't agree with BNP racist policies but it is easy to see where they are coming from and why their support can grow in this atmosphere of celebrating everybody else's culture, often in the most outrageously provocative manner, but when it comes down to celebrating that of the ethnic majority, scorn is poured upon it.
It surprises me that in our closed and secretive society how many people are experts on what might be going on in our equivalent of the CIA, whilst in reality their experience is limited to following a James Bond plot whilst driving their bus.
Beemerboy what has that immature drivel got to do with anything? If I put you unarmed in front of a semi automatic weapon you'd $hit youself too. It's easy to be brave cos you've played Counter Strike. Real life isn't like that.
If you read the news, BNP or rabid fscists or whatever term of abuse the establishment want to use, did turn up at the muslim hatred rallies. The metropolitan police threw a cordon around it so Hooky and chums could "express their views", the other folks evidently have no such rights.
Now I don't understand this. Whenever native "right wing" demonstrations are due, the "anti **** league" or whoever get the green light for a riot. However, foreign and openly anti UK "right wing" demonstrations will be FORCIBLY protected from anyone who doesn't agree with them.
I don't agree with BNP racist policies but it is easy to see where they are coming from and why their support can grow in this atmosphere of celebrating everybody else's culture, often in the most outrageously provocative manner, but when it comes down to celebrating that of the ethnic majority, scorn is poured upon it.
It surprises me that in our closed and secretive society how many people are experts on what might be going on in our equivalent of the CIA, whilst in reality their experience is limited to following a James Bond plot whilst driving their bus.
15 October 2002, 01:28 PM
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Whose an expert and drives a bus? 
I never claimed to be an expert on our secret service but when you read and hear of reports of the dummies working for them leaving/losing vital papers on buses or trains and losing their laptops then its hard to believe these people are skilled enough to infiltrate or intercept communications from the worlds worst terrorist organisations when they can't even do simple things correctly like look after thier possesions!
If they are so wonderful then how come no results are ever heard of in terms of major break throughs in terrorist cells being uncovered etc. Surely if they were producing the goods then we would hear about such important events through the media and the likes of Hook Hand wouldn't be leading such an easy life living off the state.
I never claimed to be an expert on our secret service but when you read and hear of reports of the dummies working for them leaving/losing vital papers on buses or trains and losing their laptops then its hard to believe these people are skilled enough to infiltrate or intercept communications from the worlds worst terrorist organisations when they can't even do simple things correctly like look after thier possesions!
If they are so wonderful then how come no results are ever heard of in terms of major break throughs in terrorist cells being uncovered etc. Surely if they were producing the goods then we would hear about such important events through the media and the likes of Hook Hand wouldn't be leading such an easy life living off the state.
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I think this is one step away from changing topic!!!
why do people have to "Belong"
oh yeah, some guy supports animal rights...why??
so he can go looting at the first chance during a march!!!
people should be happy with their 'lot'
yes, protests do work, but there are bad elements everywhere, counter-producing the honest campaigners.
i'm a strong believer in knowing right from wrong and treat people how i would like to be treated myself.
i dont need some scripted handbook to guide me!!!
if you can do a good deed, do it!!!
only sheep should be lead!!!
the old make battle plans....the young have to fight it.
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why do people have to "Belong"
oh yeah, some guy supports animal rights...why??
so he can go looting at the first chance during a march!!!
people should be happy with their 'lot'
yes, protests do work, but there are bad elements everywhere, counter-producing the honest campaigners.
i'm a strong believer in knowing right from wrong and treat people how i would like to be treated myself.
i dont need some scripted handbook to guide me!!!
if you can do a good deed, do it!!!
only sheep should be lead!!!
the old make battle plans....the young have to fight it.
BB
