For those of you that thought hunting with hounds was banned in Scotland...
19 September 2002, 10:33 AM
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don't really want to go into this again, but ...
Channel 4 News - 18/09/02, 7.50pm
hunting foxes with hounds remains legal in Scotland despite the ban passed by the scottish assembly. thanks to poorly-drafted and rushed legislation, hunting foxes with hounds in scotland remains legal and continues to take place.
hounds are permitted to flush out foxes provided that marksmen now accompanying each hunt finish the animal off. however, should the marksmen miss the animal and it falls victim to the hounds then that too is legal.
numbers of people wishing to hunt have dropped by approximately 40 per cent since the introduction. however, through the introduction of marksmen accompanying huntsmen, horses and hounds, the proportion of foxes killed per hunt has risen from 10% pre-legislation to a staggering 90% post-legislation.
huntsmen are now concerned that the legislation will serve only to decimate the fox population rather than control it and fear that the strongest foxes will be wiped out in short order, weakening the fox gene pool.
there is also the issue of foxes wounded by shooting escaping to die slowly.
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in effect, the scottish "ban" has hugely increased the numbers of foxes killed by indirectly making hunting with hounds now highly efficient.
as a member of the pro-hunt lobby, i think this is bad as it has removed the previously practical sustainable controls and replaced them with something that poses an ultimate threat to the species in scotland.
sorry to have to say it but the scottish assembly has once more demonstrated that it couldn't organise a pi55-up in a brewery and is more interested in useless gesture politics.
Channel 4 News - 18/09/02, 7.50pm
hunting foxes with hounds remains legal in Scotland despite the ban passed by the scottish assembly. thanks to poorly-drafted and rushed legislation, hunting foxes with hounds in scotland remains legal and continues to take place.
hounds are permitted to flush out foxes provided that marksmen now accompanying each hunt finish the animal off. however, should the marksmen miss the animal and it falls victim to the hounds then that too is legal.
numbers of people wishing to hunt have dropped by approximately 40 per cent since the introduction. however, through the introduction of marksmen accompanying huntsmen, horses and hounds, the proportion of foxes killed per hunt has risen from 10% pre-legislation to a staggering 90% post-legislation.
huntsmen are now concerned that the legislation will serve only to decimate the fox population rather than control it and fear that the strongest foxes will be wiped out in short order, weakening the fox gene pool.
there is also the issue of foxes wounded by shooting escaping to die slowly.
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in effect, the scottish "ban" has hugely increased the numbers of foxes killed by indirectly making hunting with hounds now highly efficient.
as a member of the pro-hunt lobby, i think this is bad as it has removed the previously practical sustainable controls and replaced them with something that poses an ultimate threat to the species in scotland.
sorry to have to say it but the scottish assembly has once more demonstrated that it couldn't organise a pi55-up in a brewery and is more interested in useless gesture politics.
19 September 2002, 11:21 AM
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Fair point, well made, but at least the the 80% increase in killing is likely to be a swifter death, which is something I suppose.
Bear in mind that the bill covered many other issues as well.
D
Bear in mind that the bill covered many other issues as well.
D
19 September 2002, 01:52 PM
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The Scottish Assembly parliment thing is a pile of pi$$ and i voted for it just to make it worse!! Less politicians is what we need not more. I laughed when i read about an English group thats started up to get their own parliment - you can have the scottish one and i'll thow in the "new" building FOC
Its not yet finnished but's probably more expensive than the Dome by now
Its not yet finnished but's probably more expensive than the Dome by now
19 September 2002, 05:52 PM
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Whatever your view on the intention of the legislation, I doubt many will argue that rushed hasty legislation passed quickly for public approval is ever proved in the long run to be good legislation. ("good" as in achieves its aims)
If its worth banning something, its worth spending the time to get the law right.
Deano
If its worth banning something, its worth spending the time to get the law right.
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