Bloody Con Spam - Found Me Again!
14 July 2002, 01:50 PM
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I'm sure people are familliar with the type
"Sir, don't know you but I 'm sure you're of integrity but I have an Urgent business venture as I know of zillions in a bank account & need someone with a UK account to help me release it & I'll give you a percentage for your assistance"
& we all know its a complete & utter con & you'd get shafted if you even tried it 
Anyhow, it used to only affect my .com email addy with 1 or 2 a week. I just got one today on my SIDC.co.uk account [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
Aggh! I delete them as a matter of course but I try & keep that account spam free, but somehow the buggers have found it again
Anyone else had that problem or are they nicking addys from scoobynet?
Bah!
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"Sir, don't know you but I 'm sure you're of integrity but I have an Urgent business venture as I know of zillions in a bank account & need someone with a UK account to help me release it & I'll give you a percentage for your assistance"
& we all know its a complete & utter con & you'd get shafted if you even tried it
Anyhow, it used to only affect my .com email addy with 1 or 2 a week. I just got one today on my SIDC.co.uk account [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
Aggh! I delete them as a matter of course but I try & keep that account spam free, but somehow the buggers have found it again
Anyone else had that problem or are they nicking addys from scoobynet?
Bah!
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14 July 2002, 03:33 PM
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We get them at work, and we keep them as a laugh to read through. Its always better when its a letter, cos at least you get some interesting stamps, and some fof the guff they type is priceless
Oh, and Ive got $340000000 lying about in a bucket and need a bank account thats full of wad to access to put it in. Oh, and I might have to empty yours first, but dont worry, I'll give it back in a bit. Honest!
Buzz
From the office of Mr. G. Mwamamsangula, Nigerian Defence and Civil Authority
Oh, and Ive got $340000000 lying about in a bucket and need a bank account thats full of wad to access to put it in. Oh, and I might have to empty yours first, but dont worry, I'll give it back in a bit. Honest!
Buzz
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14 July 2002, 04:35 PM
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Puff,
yup, it was my profile address used here, and on the SIDC and 22B boards.
Surely the perpetrator must know that after insurance and petrol, Scooby drivers don't have any money left
mb
yup, it was my profile address used here, and on the SIDC and 22B boards.
Surely the perpetrator must know that after insurance and petrol, Scooby drivers don't have any money left
mb
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14 July 2002, 08:33 PM
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Yep, it is in my profile..... Wouldn't want to lay any blame at Scoobynet's door, if I was a Nigerian scammer I'd find the Porsche or BWW bulletin boards first 
14 July 2002, 10:30 PM
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Well, I reckon I must have got the only genuine Nigerian - he is going to use my account to transfer £500,000 and will leave £50,000 in my account when he has moved it out, its going to pay for my moving house!! Yipppeeee!! Its good isnt it?? All I had to do was to sign to allow him access and he will be ever so grateful!!
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14 July 2002, 11:09 PM
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I got one on my webmaster address this evening so they can only get that from my website. It started with...ahem..I quote:
I'm Prince femi kuti, a Director with the Union Bank of Nigeria (U.B.N) Plc
Prince who?!?!?!
Tim
[Edited by Tim Taylor - 7/14/2002 11:10:21 PM]
I'm Prince femi kuti, a Director with the Union Bank of Nigeria (U.B.N) Plc
Prince who?!?!?!
Tim
[Edited by Tim Taylor - 7/14/2002 11:10:21 PM]
15 July 2002, 08:12 AM
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The Nigerian ones are great - when I used to work for a bank in the city, we used to get similar things all the time! It was said the defrauding western people and business was a national industry in Nigeria. The banking authorities apparantly had evidence to suggest that it was even state sponsored and you could do the equivalent of an evening course in fraud!
It got so bad that any payment to or from Nigeria was immeadiately considered to be doubtful and would always be referred before payment was made.
The other one I've had recently at home is the letter promising you £40000 if you give £10 to the person who sent you the letter, add your name to the letter and mail it out to 200 more people -hmmmm and I've also got MUG printed across my forehead
Chris
It got so bad that any payment to or from Nigeria was immeadiately considered to be doubtful and would always be referred before payment was made.
The other one I've had recently at home is the letter promising you £40000 if you give £10 to the person who sent you the letter, add your name to the letter and mail it out to 200 more people -hmmmm and I've also got MUG printed across my forehead
Chris
15 July 2002, 08:55 AM
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Thats a good one....hmmm..
Send me £1 and I'll let you into the secret "Way of the Buzz - How to make a pound using Soobynet" .......
Its a genuine %100 plan, with no risk. But if you dont send me the pound I cant tell you
*Prepares to be sent to the muppet forum for ever*
Send me £1 and I'll let you into the secret "Way of the Buzz - How to make a pound using Soobynet" .......
Its a genuine %100 plan, with no risk. But if you dont send me the pound I cant tell you
*Prepares to be sent to the muppet forum for ever*
15 July 2002, 10:56 AM
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15 July 2002, 01:03 PM
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Razz,
I am very interested in your "Way of the Buzz" and have £1 sat here with YOUR name on it, just think what you could do with £1!
But I need your address to post it too or drop it in to you.
Please add your address
SPAM mail... don't start me on that...
At least my AOL account allow me to bar addresses...
JGM
I am very interested in your "Way of the Buzz" and have £1 sat here with YOUR name on it, just think what you could do with £1!
But I need your address to post it too or drop it in to you.
Please add your address
SPAM mail... don't start me on that...
At least my AOL account allow me to bar addresses...
JGM
15 July 2002, 02:18 PM
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LOL JGM, there was a moment here when I almost believed you and made plans for my new shiny pound
Surely you mean you need my bank account details, log-ins, security answers and passwords etc so you can deposit the pound directly into my account...
And I trust you not to empty it
Buzz
Surely you mean you need my bank account details, log-ins, security answers and passwords etc so you can deposit the pound directly into my account...
And I trust you not to empty it
Buzz
15 July 2002, 02:21 PM
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Oh, and just an explanantion on the name, cos Razz is a new one
RaZe is the name of the counter Strike clan I am in www.clanraze.co.uk , and Buzz is my on-line nickname thats easy to type and remember
Buzz
RaZe is the name of the counter Strike clan I am in www.clanraze.co.uk , and Buzz is my on-line nickname thats easy to type and remember
Buzz
15 July 2002, 02:43 PM
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Weekly comute at the moment..
Work dried up and ended up have to find something 200miles from home.. suppose to be a temporary measure.. 7months later I still have found something nearer home. Doh! hopefully the market should pick up soon..
Pound is waiting on your bank details, or address
Along with the other £2 in my account which could be yours Mr Buzz.... ............... ..............
JGM
Work dried up and ended up have to find something 200miles from home.. suppose to be a temporary measure.. 7months later I still have found something nearer home. Doh! hopefully the market should pick up soon..
Pound is waiting on your bank details, or address
Along with the other £2 in my account which could be yours Mr Buzz.... ............... ..............
JGM
15 July 2002, 02:58 PM
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I've had quite a bit of fun with these people in the past few months. I was always getting the messages, and used to simply hit the delete button.
Now I have some standard replies which I send, in order to waste some of their time.
My record so far is 19 replies over a two week period, before the chap got fed up with me.
I replied sounding interested, and asked for more details. At the same time, I also offered him forged passports and free flights to anywhere in the UK on my private jet. I needed more prrof of identity though, and eventually got scanned copies of the guys passport, plus the various peices of documentation that they had secured for me.
When asked for address details, and telephone/fax numbers - I simply gave them the details of the local police HQ Much to my surprise, after about 10 e-mails, the chap replied to say he had tried to call me at the weekend (I can never call him as I don't have international dialling access), and was told it was a police station, and to call another number (yet another police station). To keep the fun going, I had to admit that I was a police officer (I'm not really), and even this didn't phase the guy in Nigeria.
It's amazing the crap you can tell these guys and they will believe you, as long as it looks like you are still keen on the deal. Throughout the e-mails, I offered the guy a Russian transporter plane to collect him and his family and take them to a UK airport, where we could conclude the deal. I reckoned the best airport was Scatsta (in the Shetland Isles), where the plane could land without much fuss from customs, and his family would be able to mingle anonymously with the local community
Eventually, he got around to asking for the money $32,000 to secure some other documents necessary. These had to be procured in Nigeria, before his departure to the UK I of course asked for an invoice, which took him two days to produce (and very genuine looking it was!). However, in this time I managed to persaude a local company to produce a fake invoice for me (in order to release the funds from the bank, without the tax man getting interested). Great confusion though - the secretary at the local company got it confused with a real order, and shipped the goods to Nigeria. I informed the chap that he would have to collect the goods (and pay the import duties), and then sell them on the open market in Nigeria to recover "our" money. He would be able to make about 200% profit on each itme sold.
The goods were the latest hi-tech ceramic under floor heating panels One panel uses a few MW of electricity, and a single panel can keep the harshness of the severest arctic winter out of a room at very low cost.
Needless to say, he wasn't impressed with his end of the bargain, despite my protestations that it was a fantastic deal for him
I've also had a replies to various other ones, which include travelling to Amsterdam to collect the funds from a security company etc.
Nowaday, I just have a standard reply, which explains that I run a property purchasing and leasing business called Grampian Pro Lease, which has the address, telephone and fax numbers of the local police HQ. I simply ask them to call/fax with more information (as it is of a secure and confidential nature!).
I am sure that if everyone who got these letters took a little time to waste some of "their" time, at the same time as you having a bit of fun, then their hit rates would drop dramatically.
Having done some research into the "problem", it seems like this is Nigeria's 3rd largest industry in terms of turn-over, and the gangs involved are raking in millions and millions every year across the country, and they are getting ever more sophisticated. The poor spelling and grammer in many of their e-mails is deliberate, and is to fool you into thinking that you are dealing with someone with low intelligence in Nigeria, who could be easily parted with their money. Many government officials, banking industry and even people in the police force are suspected to involved in the scams (due to their cut of the earnings), and hence the difficulty in eliminating them.
John
Now I have some standard replies which I send, in order to waste some of their time.
My record so far is 19 replies over a two week period, before the chap got fed up with me.
I replied sounding interested, and asked for more details. At the same time, I also offered him forged passports and free flights to anywhere in the UK on my private jet. I needed more prrof of identity though, and eventually got scanned copies of the guys passport, plus the various peices of documentation that they had secured for me.
When asked for address details, and telephone/fax numbers - I simply gave them the details of the local police HQ
Much to my surprise, after about 10 e-mails, the chap replied to say he had tried to call me at the weekend (I can never call him as I don't have international dialling access), and was told it was a police station, and to call another number (yet another police station). To keep the fun going, I had to admit that I was a police officer (I'm not really), and even this didn't phase the guy in Nigeria. It's amazing the crap you can tell these guys and they will believe you, as long as it looks like you are still keen on the deal. Throughout the e-mails, I offered the guy a Russian transporter plane to collect him and his family and take them to a UK airport, where we could conclude the deal. I reckoned the best airport was Scatsta (in the Shetland Isles), where the plane could land without much fuss from customs, and his family would be able to mingle anonymously with the local community
Eventually, he got around to asking for the money $32,000 to secure some other documents necessary. These had to be procured in Nigeria, before his departure to the UK
I of course asked for an invoice, which took him two days to produce (and very genuine looking it was!). However, in this time I managed to persaude a local company to produce a fake invoice for me (in order to release the funds from the bank, without the tax man getting interested). Great confusion though - the secretary at the local company got it confused with a real order, and shipped the goods to Nigeria. I informed the chap that he would have to collect the goods (and pay the import duties), and then sell them on the open market in Nigeria to recover "our" money. He would be able to make about 200% profit on each itme sold.The goods were the latest hi-tech ceramic under floor heating panels
One panel uses a few MW of electricity, and a single panel can keep the harshness of the severest arctic winter out of a room at very low cost.Needless to say, he wasn't impressed with his end of the bargain, despite my protestations that it was a fantastic deal for him
I've also had a replies to various other ones, which include travelling to Amsterdam to collect the funds from a security company etc.
Nowaday, I just have a standard reply, which explains that I run a property purchasing and leasing business called Grampian Pro Lease, which has the address, telephone and fax numbers of the local police HQ. I simply ask them to call/fax with more information (as it is of a secure and confidential nature!).
I am sure that if everyone who got these letters took a little time to waste some of "their" time, at the same time as you having a bit of fun, then their hit rates would drop dramatically.
Having done some research into the "problem", it seems like this is Nigeria's 3rd largest industry in terms of turn-over, and the gangs involved are raking in millions and millions every year across the country, and they are getting ever more sophisticated. The poor spelling and grammer in many of their e-mails is deliberate, and is to fool you into thinking that you are dealing with someone with low intelligence in Nigeria, who could be easily parted with their money. Many government officials, banking industry and even people in the police force are suspected to involved in the scams (due to their cut of the earnings), and hence the difficulty in eliminating them.
John
15 July 2002, 04:01 PM
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wow - wish I was brave enough to do that John
JGM - £3 ? crikey, that was so easy Im suspicious its a scam to scam my "pound" scam.....must be a £3 coin :P
I'll have to start another one....erm...how abaout genuine bottled Monk dung from the far east? Will do wonders for.....erm....Baldness! HA! yes....and erm...its 100% naturally produced.
Comes beer scented too!
Only £1 a jar. But you'll have to wait till Ive finished the marmite for the first bacth to be "produced". Howm many you want JGM?
JGM - £3 ? crikey, that was so easy Im suspicious its a scam to scam my "pound" scam.....must be a £3 coin :P
I'll have to start another one....erm...how abaout genuine bottled Monk dung from the far east? Will do wonders for.....erm....Baldness! HA! yes....and erm...its 100% naturally produced.
Comes beer scented too!
Only £1 a jar. But you'll have to wait till Ive finished the marmite for the first bacth to be "produced". Howm many you want JGM?
15 July 2002, 04:24 PM
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But don't tell me you just need my bank details in order to put me on the payroll?
The thought or you with a jar producing is not a nice image..
especially in this heat!
JGM
[Edited by Jolly Green Monster 2 - 7/15/2002 4:33:20 PM]
The thought or you with a jar producing is not a nice image..
especially in this heat!
JGM
[Edited by Jolly Green Monster 2 - 7/15/2002 4:33:20 PM]
15 July 2002, 08:24 PM
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I have done a lot of research into these Nigerian scams as I work in Compliance/ Anti-Money laundering.
In all seriousness, I would advise against replying and wasting their time. Some american web sites have reported some Nigerians have exacted revenge against these time wasters. Some of these crooks are part of very well organised international crime groups. The revenge can vary from actual violence arranged through contacts in your home country to framing you as being involved in the crime and blackmail. Just be careful of what you are getting into.
In all seriousness, I would advise against replying and wasting their time. Some american web sites have reported some Nigerians have exacted revenge against these time wasters. Some of these crooks are part of very well organised international crime groups. The revenge can vary from actual violence arranged through contacts in your home country to framing you as being involved in the crime and blackmail. Just be careful of what you are getting into.