Had bad thoughts about life?
07 October 2019, 09:33 PM
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Had bad thoughts about life?
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08 October 2019, 01:50 PM
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Younger generations are becoming increasingly blinkered and fragile. Christ, trauma that I carry from the forty years on this planet would have them going Harry Carry at the slightest blip of hardship. That said....
Its not about manning up, its about learning strategies that allow you cope with the current, lots of self reflection to understand and learn what makes you think/behave in the way that you do and take steps to change and improve on anything negative.
This will pave the way forward away from depression to where I am today; High functioning depression
Which includes perks such as mind f**king imbeciles that try and emphasise or annoy you by persistently asking if you are ok without a clue or care about what to do if you actually said “No!”
Being like this does have its advantages; 2018 was shyte and 2019 thus far has been utter shyte, now this has placed ones I care about into a downward spiral as events have overwhelmed them...and I’m like ‘business as usual’. Honestly I’ve felt worse in better times
Too deep? Meh! On reflection I could really do with ten days in a week and days that last 30 hours, and the ability to replicate via mitosis, then things would be just fine
Its not about manning up, its about learning strategies that allow you cope with the current, lots of self reflection to understand and learn what makes you think/behave in the way that you do and take steps to change and improve on anything negative.
This will pave the way forward away from depression to where I am today; High functioning depression
Which includes perks such as mind f**king imbeciles that try and emphasise or annoy you by persistently asking if you are ok without a clue or care about what to do if you actually said “No!”Being like this does have its advantages; 2018 was shyte and 2019 thus far has been utter shyte, now this has placed ones I care about into a downward spiral as events have overwhelmed them...and I’m like ‘business as usual’. Honestly I’ve felt worse in better times
Too deep? Meh! On reflection I could really do with ten days in a week and days that last 30 hours, and the ability to replicate via mitosis, then things would be just fine
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08 October 2019, 06:25 PM
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You think when you get older it'll get easier. It doesn't you just get tortured even more by people that wouldn't do f**k all for you but expect you to pull them out.
As the old saying goes the best days of your life even though you hated them at the time we're your schooldays/teens.
As the old saying goes the best days of your life even though you hated them at the time we're your schooldays/teens.
08 October 2019, 06:39 PM
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You think when you get older it'll get easier. It doesn't you just get tortured even more by people that wouldn't do f**k all for you but expect you to pull them out.
As the old saying goes the best days of your life even though you hated them at the time we're your schooldays/teens.
As the old saying goes the best days of your life even though you hated them at the time we're your schooldays/teens.
09 October 2019, 08:27 AM
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Maybe that's because the adults of today suffered in silence and passed it down to their children, who felt the pressures before they could learn to cope? Suicide rates seem to be dropping, in fact in your "days" more people took the "easy" way out, which, going by your comments I assume you think is all about being weak minded too.
Seeing someone with real depression or anxiety is horrible, to imagine having that feeling of dread we all get from time to time, all the time, I can understand how it leads to suicide, and when they look for help, if they find someone with your attitude, then...
09 October 2019, 09:36 AM
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Folks make a living off the internet by being all maudlin , you can see why theres certain amount cynisism
Couldn't do that in my day
don't even need step outside
Couldn't do that in my day
don't even need step outside
09 October 2019, 10:29 AM
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Maybe that's because the adults of today suffered in silence and passed it down to their children, who felt the pressures before they could learn to cope? Suicide rates seem to be dropping, in fact in your "days" more people took the "easy" way out, which, going by your comments I assume you think is all about being weak minded too.
Seeing someone with real depression or anxiety is horrible, to imagine having that feeling of dread we all get from time to time, all the time, I can understand how it leads to suicide, and when they look for help, if they find someone with your attitude, then...
Seeing someone with real depression or anxiety is horrible, to imagine having that feeling of dread we all get from time to time, all the time, I can understand how it leads to suicide, and when they look for help, if they find someone with your attitude, then...
Infact, I think to attempt suicide you must be incredibly brave.
For example a person I know has diabetes, and has has it for a hell of a long time - early secondary school I believe.
24 years old, they are not fat, quite the opposite, really skinny.
Roughly in the last year, they have started taking time off work with varying diabetes issues - probably 1 - 2 days a week on average.
Then it increased to a week off, because they'd get some sort of flu virus, then 1 week became two weeks, and maybe 7 months ago, the doctor signed them off on long term sick, due to anxiety & depression.
This person can regularly been seen out with friends, on social media - claiming to be "lovin life" due to not working.
They don't appear as someone with anxiety issues, I think know the signs, as my own Daughter went through anxiety/mental problems after being involved in an accident, and I seen what she went through over a period of 3 or 4 months.
Doctors don't help either, as they're a bit too quick to get the sick notes out at the very mention of mental problems - probably to cover their own *****.
We all have our problems, its just about managing them as best we can.
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09 October 2019, 01:21 PM
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If you or a friend are having bad thoughts about life, please please speak to someone. People, especially men, see it as a weakness so bottle things up, which makes things worse; it's not a weakness and far more people are suffering in silence that should be.
I'll admit to having a couple of dark periods in my life, on both occasions I ended up on antidepressants for a few months, but with help and some workshops, provided by the NHS, I'm still here. I don't know what else to say, but if you're running through your mind the prospect of either killing yourself or how you'd kill yourself (both of which I did), speak to someone NOW. Get help.
I'll admit to having a couple of dark periods in my life, on both occasions I ended up on antidepressants for a few months, but with help and some workshops, provided by the NHS, I'm still here. I don't know what else to say, but if you're running through your mind the prospect of either killing yourself or how you'd kill yourself (both of which I did), speak to someone NOW. Get help.
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10 October 2019, 04:33 PM
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Life these days is owned by millenial snowflakes or generation selfie who blame everyone but themselves for everything they don't like or for things they can't acheive or obtain. That they feel they are owed, no, entitled to be given everything by everyone else without applying much effort themselves and will throw all their toys out of the pram if they don't get what they want. They say they are liberal and for free speach but will quite happily shut you down if you don't agree with them or share the same ideolgy and will protest and signal virtuously in the most vociferous way possible at anything just so they can get more attention, more likes and followers on social media. Ultimately they will become our leaders, our keepers when we're old and grey. Other than that life's great!
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10 October 2019, 06:28 PM
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I don't think anybody is weak minded or anything. I just think that we now seem to have a society of youth who take any liberty going, particularly if they're a bit lazy.
Infact, I think to attempt suicide you must be incredibly brave.
For example a person I know has diabetes, and has has it for a hell of a long time - early secondary school I believe.
24 years old, they are not fat, quite the opposite, really skinny.
Roughly in the last year, they have started taking time off work with varying diabetes issues - probably 1 - 2 days a week on average.
Then it increased to a week off, because they'd get some sort of flu virus, then 1 week became two weeks, and maybe 7 months ago, the doctor signed them off on long term sick, due to anxiety & depression.
This person can regularly been seen out with friends, on social media - claiming to be "lovin life" due to not working.
They don't appear as someone with anxiety issues, I think know the signs, as my own Daughter went through anxiety/mental problems after being involved in an accident, and I seen what she went through over a period of 3 or 4 months.
Doctors don't help either, as they're a bit too quick to get the sick notes out at the very mention of mental problems - probably to cover their own *****.
We all have our problems, its just about managing them as best we can.
Infact, I think to attempt suicide you must be incredibly brave.
For example a person I know has diabetes, and has has it for a hell of a long time - early secondary school I believe.
24 years old, they are not fat, quite the opposite, really skinny.
Roughly in the last year, they have started taking time off work with varying diabetes issues - probably 1 - 2 days a week on average.
Then it increased to a week off, because they'd get some sort of flu virus, then 1 week became two weeks, and maybe 7 months ago, the doctor signed them off on long term sick, due to anxiety & depression.
This person can regularly been seen out with friends, on social media - claiming to be "lovin life" due to not working.
They don't appear as someone with anxiety issues, I think know the signs, as my own Daughter went through anxiety/mental problems after being involved in an accident, and I seen what she went through over a period of 3 or 4 months.
Doctors don't help either, as they're a bit too quick to get the sick notes out at the very mention of mental problems - probably to cover their own *****.
We all have our problems, its just about managing them as best we can.
When I was younger my dad suffered a nervous breakdown due to stress and anxiety. Nobody had a clue anything was wrong with him until one day he collapsed while I was at school and had to be taken to hospital. Turns out he had had been suffering problems in silence for a long time. 15 odd years later he still hasn’t fully recovered and I will be very surprised if he ever does.
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12 October 2019, 09:29 PM
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I do appreciate the replies. Cheers all. Some people have been a bit spot on.And extremely helpful
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13 October 2019, 01:12 PM
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Like others have said, open up, talk to someone and get help.
I used to think I was above it, tough and capable. Then I was proved wrong. Results were nearly...... Then, pure luck, someone rescued me.
My son is just coming out of a similar problem. 2 friends, suicide. 1 friend died cancer. All his age. Friends mother attempted suicide twice, 2nd time successfully. All in 1 year. He was 14, now 15.
One night he got drunk and we found out he'd tried suicide and drugs. He's now getting counselling and is getting better.
Don't bottle it up. That just builds the pressure and makes it worse.
I used to think I was above it, tough and capable. Then I was proved wrong. Results were nearly...... Then, pure luck, someone rescued me.
My son is just coming out of a similar problem. 2 friends, suicide. 1 friend died cancer. All his age. Friends mother attempted suicide twice, 2nd time successfully. All in 1 year. He was 14, now 15.
One night he got drunk and we found out he'd tried suicide and drugs. He's now getting counselling and is getting better.
Don't bottle it up. That just builds the pressure and makes it worse.
13 October 2019, 01:13 PM
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Yes, just over 3 years ago I went through an intense period of depression and panic attacks that were a culmination of really not facing up to problems but pushing them down the road. I didn’t think I was the ‘kind of person’ to suffer with anything like that, but after about 6 months with a combination of not being happy almost all the time and using recreational drugs regularly I just snapped. Couldn’t stop taking panic attacks every couple of hours for the best part of a week and in between was just constant feelings of dread. Had to stay off work which I had never done before.
What I would really recommend is trying to do something about it rather than letting it fester. I couldn’t stand feeling like that for any length of time and the NHS was no help at all really, so I looked into it a bit and contacted a CBT therapist which turned out to be the best thing I’ve ever done. She identified ways I was behaving and thinking that I never even realised were the case but it was just like the pennies started dropping when they were mentioned to me. It took about 6 months to feel quite confident that I was out of it, but since then I’ve just gone from strength to strength and today about 3 years on I’ve never felt as strong or enjoyed life as much.
So my advice if anyone does feel bad about life is to get to the bottom of why they feel like that and try to do something about that. I never took any medication and although I know it can save lives, I think if it can be avoided at all in favour of making changes to your life, you should do that instead.
What I would really recommend is trying to do something about it rather than letting it fester. I couldn’t stand feeling like that for any length of time and the NHS was no help at all really, so I looked into it a bit and contacted a CBT therapist which turned out to be the best thing I’ve ever done. She identified ways I was behaving and thinking that I never even realised were the case but it was just like the pennies started dropping when they were mentioned to me. It took about 6 months to feel quite confident that I was out of it, but since then I’ve just gone from strength to strength and today about 3 years on I’ve never felt as strong or enjoyed life as much.
So my advice if anyone does feel bad about life is to get to the bottom of why they feel like that and try to do something about that. I never took any medication and although I know it can save lives, I think if it can be avoided at all in favour of making changes to your life, you should do that instead.
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13 October 2019, 01:23 PM
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Yes, just over 3 years ago I went through an intense period of depression and panic attacks that were a culmination of really not facing up to problems but pushing them down the road. I didn’t think I was the ‘kind of person’ to suffer with anything like that, but after about 6 months with a combination of not being happy almost all the time and using recreational drugs regularly I just snapped. Couldn’t stop taking panic attacks every couple of hours for the best part of a week and in between was just constant feelings of dread. Had to stay off work which I had never done before.
What I would really recommend is trying to do something about it rather than letting it fester. I couldn’t stand feeling like that for any length of time and the NHS was no help at all really, so I looked into it a bit and contacted a CBT therapist which turned out to be the best thing I’ve ever done. She identified ways I was behaving and thinking that I never even realised were the case but it was just like the pennies started dropping when they were mentioned to me. It took about 6 months to feel quite confident that I was out of it, but since then I’ve just gone from strength to strength and today about 3 years on I’ve never felt as strong or enjoyed life as much.
So my advice if anyone does feel bad about life is to get to the bottom of why they feel like that and try to do something about that. I never took any medication and although I know it can save lives, I think if it can be avoided at all in favour of making changes to your life, you should do that instead.
What I would really recommend is trying to do something about it rather than letting it fester. I couldn’t stand feeling like that for any length of time and the NHS was no help at all really, so I looked into it a bit and contacted a CBT therapist which turned out to be the best thing I’ve ever done. She identified ways I was behaving and thinking that I never even realised were the case but it was just like the pennies started dropping when they were mentioned to me. It took about 6 months to feel quite confident that I was out of it, but since then I’ve just gone from strength to strength and today about 3 years on I’ve never felt as strong or enjoyed life as much.
So my advice if anyone does feel bad about life is to get to the bottom of why they feel like that and try to do something about that. I never took any medication and although I know it can save lives, I think if it can be avoided at all in favour of making changes to your life, you should do that instead.
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