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is it me or is there a lack of specialists around to work on this car?
there isnt even alot of upgraded engine parts around................try finding rods and pistons in the uk for this car. im coming into some money soon and this car really takes my fancy.
buy with warranty and keep standard or mod to around 700bhp and void the warranty?
a new engine from bmw comes in @ around £25k............................**** that surely a rebuild would be cheaper if parts were avaiable.
is it me or is there a lack of specialists around to work on this car?
there isnt even alot of upgraded engine parts around................try finding rods and pistons in the uk for this car. im coming into some money soon and this car really takes my fancy.
buy with warranty and keep standard or mod to around 700bhp and void the warranty?
a new engine from bmw comes in @ around £25k............................**** that surely a rebuild would be cheaper if parts were avaiable.
BM Sport in Bexlyheath are a specialist and who i used when i had my e36 m3
Easy. Speak to Ray from wrench studios. 07763645039. They do currently have a full forged engine built up to cope with 1500bhp at 16k.
My F10 is hopefully going down a tuned route soon. Pure stage 2 turbos, HCP stage 2, Meth and ssp clutches. 850-900 bhp comfortably. Looking to hit vmaxx.
Easy. Speak to Ray from wrench studios. 07763645039. They do currently have a full forged engine built up to cope with 1500bhp at 16k.
My F10 is hopefully going down a tuned route soon. Pure stage 2 turbos, HCP stage 2, Meth and ssp clutches. 850-900 bhp comfortably. Looking to hit vmaxx.
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ive heard of a few horror stories about the s63tu engine (bent rods due to fuel hydrolock/knocking bottom end etc)
i will be buying from a dealer so will run the warranty but it means i cannot mod the car. surely the engine can be rebuilt for less than £10k its only a v8. even the mighty r35 gtr engine can be built for around £8.5k to cope with 900bhp
ive heard of a few horror stories about the s63tu engine (bent rods due to fuel hydrolock/knocking bottom end etc)
i will be buying from a dealer so will run the warranty but it means i cannot mod the car. surely the engine can be rebuilt for less than £10k its only a v8. even the mighty r35 gtr engine can be built for around £8.5k to cope with 900bhp
No warranty. Owned since new from 2013 0 miles. 37k on clock.
Pre Lci?
I like the m4 aswell and it's actually quicker to 60mph than the m5 HOWEVER the m5 is the brute of the m cars in my opinion. Really like the jahre edition but are ££££££££££££
I have a 2014 Singapore grey M5 F10 😁 which I love. Been considering a stage one map for some time.
Do you guys see any down side?
Downside I think is the engine going boom! I mean they comfortably run 800-900bhp. But they vary. Some have had no issues, some have had bent rod issue soon after. Hard to determine. Does make one wonder sometimes. I might still be on the fence. But I want to vmaxx it for experience only.
my plan is go c63 (although if you ask me tomorrow i may say rs5, or m3, next day prob c63 haha) but after seeing evolves 700bhp decat and mapped f10 i may be persuaded to go that route haha.
From what i can gather they are pretty reliable at that level of tune and are pretty reliable full stop, although i'd gladly be corrected if thats wrong.
have to say i really cant see any point in going any more than that, in anything but the dry its just gonna spin up the wheels even in fourth. Go have a nosey at evloves youtube page, they are at vmax200 alot with them. lik all things, the higher power you go, the bigger the risk
that said, they dont sound anywhere near as good as the c63's lol
C63 twin turbo is far more 'mechanical' than the M5
no idea which is faster but the C63 is far more aggressive and "on the edge" from the seat............
have recently had an M5 s63 crank in for inspection and it was so out of true it was ridiculous - it had been subjected to a "slight" amount of heat gong by the blueing of the casting and the fact that it had 3x big-end shells welded to it!!!
my plan is go c63 (although if you ask me tomorrow i may say rs5, or m3, next day prob c63 haha) but after seeing evolves 700bhp decat and mapped f10 i may be persuaded to go that route haha.
From what i can gather they are pretty reliable at that level of tune and are pretty reliable full stop, although i'd gladly be corrected if thats wrong.
have to say i really cant see any point in going any more than that, in anything but the dry its just gonna spin up the wheels even in fourth. Go have a nosey at evloves youtube page, they are at vmax200 alot with them. lik all things, the higher power you go, the bigger the risk
that said, they dont sound anywhere near as good as the c63's lol
Hi tidgy
Yeah I've been looking at evolves stuff, looks like they know a thing or 2 about BMW's. As much as I would want to tune it to 700bhp I simply couldn't let myself without knowing what a rebuild would cost (and if it's as above £16k) I shall not bother and just keep it std.
I like the c63 a lad at work has just bought the 2 door coupe with performance pack on it, the m5 looks better though in my opinion.
I have heard a few horror stories about the rs5 engine (non turbo v8). I love the 2015 rs6 but they are around 10k more than an m5.
C63 twin turbo is far more 'mechanical' than the M5
no idea which is faster but the C63 is far more aggressive and "on the edge" from the seat............
have recently had an M5 s63 crank in for inspection and it was so out of true it was ridiculous - it had been subjected to a "slight" amount of heat gong by the blueing of the casting and the fact that it had 3x big-end shells welded to it!!!
Is it correct that they are around 5k new?
Have you built any of these motors yet alyn?
Any idea of any companies doing rods and pistons like carrilo/mahle etc
C63 twin turbo is far more 'mechanical' than the M5
no idea which is faster but the C63 is far more aggressive and "on the edge" from the seat............
have recently had an M5 s63 crank in for inspection and it was so out of true it was ridiculous - it had been subjected to a "slight" amount of heat gong by the blueing of the casting and the fact that it had 3x big-end shells welded to it!!!
i'd be going the v8 N/A version sounds far far sexier
as far as faster, m5 eats a c63 even if c63 is tuned from what im led to believe.
was it tuned or untuned? i head of C6x engines eating the shells 'Rod bearings continue to be a sore subject among M3, M5 and M6 owners and in the S65 V8 have been known to fail within 60,000 miles. Rod bearings are wearing out sooner than expected and their replacement should be considered a required preventative maintenance item before 70,000 miles'
i'd be going the v8 N/A version sounds far far sexier
as far as faster, m5 eats a c63 even if c63 is tuned from what im led to believe.
was it tuned or untuned? i head of C6x engines eating the shells 'Rod bearings continue to be a sore subject among M3, M5 and M6 owners and in the S65 V8 have been known to fail within 60,000 miles. Rod bearings are wearing out sooner than expected and their replacement should be considered a required preventative maintenance item before 70,000 miles'
the worst being the m3 4.0 v8 engine for spinning its shells, evolve do it in house in situ aswell as reddish motorsport. the tolerances are just too tight from bmw and owners not warming the cars up fully before hitting the loud pedal.
ive been chatting to a guy on the m5 owners club who is doing his bearings on his f10 m5 himself, the parts only come to around £450 so that may be an option.
I'm glad I have bmw extended warranty...£27k of warranty work over 3 yrs! Includes turbos, gearbox and suspension items..
Car is standard...even though map is not expensive...it is still quick..but map is meant to change it completely...I can not afford to risk it...myself..
I'm glad I have bmw extended warranty...£27k of warranty work over 3 yrs! Includes turbos, gearbox and suspension items..
Car is standard...even though map is not expensive...it is still quick..but map is meant to change it completely...I can not afford to risk it...myself..
M5 is a nice car and a map puts it in good power but I know someone that got a nice one and he blew the engine on standard power. I think it’s just a lottery as it’s like buying an M3 you know they will of been thrashed as that’s why the people buy them cars and the M5 is the same.
BMW F10 M5..........
sounds far far sexier 
