Police tactic taking out criminal moped riders
23 November 2018, 11:32 PM
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Police tactic taking out criminal moped riders
Absolutely superb! Thank god the PC brigade haven't put a stop to it. The footage on the news brings a smile to my face knowing these scum are being taken down with a nasty bang. Well done MET police 
24 November 2018, 01:09 AM
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I agree with you (sort of), but really....It takes a bike to catch a bike.
What if the police knocked over an innocent rider by mistake, and that rider died as a result?
Its very easy for them to make a mistake and target an innocent rider. I'm saying this because about 5 years ago, I was pulled over while riding my FireBlade at around 1am. It seems that about 10 minutes earlier, an armed robbery had taken place at a petrol station across town, by a guy riding a motorcycle. Since I was the only biker they saw on the road, it had to be me, or so they believed.
I won't mention what abuse I had to go through before a message finally came over the radio that they'd caught the real culprit. I didn't even get as much as a simple apology.
I suppose I'm lucky they didn't have an ARV in the area, or they might just as well have shot me
Personally, I don't agree with these latest tactics. Imagine if they were chasing a rider, knocked him off, and the bike were to hit a pedestrian, perhaps a child, and that pedestrian were to die as a result?
What if the police knocked over an innocent rider by mistake, and that rider died as a result?
Its very easy for them to make a mistake and target an innocent rider. I'm saying this because about 5 years ago, I was pulled over while riding my FireBlade at around 1am. It seems that about 10 minutes earlier, an armed robbery had taken place at a petrol station across town, by a guy riding a motorcycle. Since I was the only biker they saw on the road, it had to be me, or so they believed.
I won't mention what abuse I had to go through before a message finally came over the radio that they'd caught the real culprit. I didn't even get as much as a simple apology.
I suppose I'm lucky they didn't have an ARV in the area, or they might just as well have shot me
Personally, I don't agree with these latest tactics. Imagine if they were chasing a rider, knocked him off, and the bike were to hit a pedestrian, perhaps a child, and that pedestrian were to die as a result?
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24 November 2018, 06:53 AM
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I agree with you (sort of), but really....It takes a bike to catch a bike.
What if the police knocked over an innocent rider by mistake, and that rider died as a result?
Its very easy for them to make a mistake and target an innocent rider. I'm saying this because about 5 years ago, I was pulled over while riding my FireBlade at around 1am. It seems that about 10 minutes earlier, an armed robbery had taken place at a petrol station across town, by a guy riding a motorcycle. Since I was the only biker they saw on the road, it had to be me, or so they believed.
I won't mention what abuse I had to go through before a message finally came over the radio that they'd caught the real culprit. I didn't even get as much as a simple apology.
I suppose I'm lucky they didn't have an ARV in the area, or they might just as well have shot me
Personally, I don't agree with these latest tactics. Imagine if they were chasing a rider, knocked him off, and the bike were to hit a pedestrian, perhaps a child, and that pedestrian were to die as a result?
What if the police knocked over an innocent rider by mistake, and that rider died as a result?
Its very easy for them to make a mistake and target an innocent rider. I'm saying this because about 5 years ago, I was pulled over while riding my FireBlade at around 1am. It seems that about 10 minutes earlier, an armed robbery had taken place at a petrol station across town, by a guy riding a motorcycle. Since I was the only biker they saw on the road, it had to be me, or so they believed.
I won't mention what abuse I had to go through before a message finally came over the radio that they'd caught the real culprit. I didn't even get as much as a simple apology.
I suppose I'm lucky they didn't have an ARV in the area, or they might just as well have shot me
Personally, I don't agree with these latest tactics. Imagine if they were chasing a rider, knocked him off, and the bike were to hit a pedestrian, perhaps a child, and that pedestrian were to die as a result?
they only knock the scum off the bike as they knew 100% he needed exciting.
well done rossers
24 November 2018, 08:04 AM
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last time the police knocked someone off there bike around here (Bristol) there was a major riot (hartcliff riots) as the police killed two kids (teenagers) who had stolen one of the police motorbikes and was riding it around with the lights on ,, I'm not condoning what they did but they didn't deserve to be rammed and killed for a foolish mistake as they were just kids
I think at very low speeds (10mph and below like a lot of the ones in the video going around) they should be able to use another vehicle to block or stop the bike but any higher and I think they should call in another bike to take over as its a very risky thing to do at higher speeds and could cost unnecessary lives
I think at very low speeds (10mph and below like a lot of the ones in the video going around) they should be able to use another vehicle to block or stop the bike but any higher and I think they should call in another bike to take over as its a very risky thing to do at higher speeds and could cost unnecessary lives
24 November 2018, 12:09 PM
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its allready dropped by half if you believe their figures
I think something had to done
those Bristol riots had more to them than that one motorbike incident by the looks of it
I think something had to done
those Bristol riots had more to them than that one motorbike incident by the looks of it
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24 November 2018, 12:53 PM
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The crimes committed on mopeds range from robbery to assault with acid so i'm all for them being targeted and knocked off. From the footage shown when they are knocked off there is nobody else about that could be hit by the moded. I'm sure they don't drive down Oxford Street knocking over mopeds into crowds of people. There is a time and a place and I think it's a brilliant tactic
24 November 2018, 02:10 PM
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last time the police knocked someone off there bike around here (Bristol) there was a major riot (hartcliff riots) as the police killed two kids (teenagers) who had stolen one of the police motorbikes and was riding it around with the lights on ,, I'm not condoning what they did but they didn't deserve to be rammed and killed for a foolish mistake as they were just kids
24 November 2018, 02:16 PM
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About time too....!!!
I would prefer it if they took them out with something a bit more substantial than a car though, maybe a Tank ,just to make sure the Scum get a taste of their own medicine.
Time to take the streets back I think.
Crack on guys.
I would prefer it if they took them out with something a bit more substantial than a car though, maybe a Tank ,just to make sure the Scum get a taste of their own medicine.
Time to take the streets back I think.
Crack on guys.
25 November 2018, 02:46 AM
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I don’t know, yeah if someone poses a danger you gotta do something but risking killing someone or putting them in a wheelchair for petty crime is taking it too far. And as said above sooner or later innocent citizens could be at the receiving end. I think in these times we gotta be careful what norms we set. Not saying a little nudge might not be appropriate but where are we heading with this!?
25 November 2018, 10:54 PM
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I'm disappointed in the people who say "they are only kids" or they don't deserve to be hurt .. I also think anyone who believes the Police would knock random people off are idiots.. if the police flash you to pull over and you race off .. then you deserve to be knocked off.
These scummy rats have been attacking, hurting and stealing for years and the chances of them killing someone are 10000 times more likely than the bike hitting a pedestrian when the police knock them off .. you think the police don't have strict rules about when to do it?
These scummy rats have been attacking, hurting and stealing for years and the chances of them killing someone are 10000 times more likely than the bike hitting a pedestrian when the police knock them off .. you think the police don't have strict rules about when to do it?
25 November 2018, 10:56 PM
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I don’t know, yeah if someone poses a danger you gotta do something but risking killing someone or putting them in a wheelchair for petty crime is taking it too far. And as said above sooner or later innocent citizens could be at the receiving end. I think in these times we gotta be careful what norms we set. Not saying a little nudge might not be appropriate but where are we heading with this!?
25 November 2018, 10:58 PM
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last time the police knocked someone off there bike around here (Bristol) there was a major riot (hartcliff riots) as the police killed two kids (teenagers) who had stolen one of the police motorbikes and was riding it around with the lights on ,, I'm not condoning what they did but they didn't deserve to be rammed and killed for a foolish mistake as they were just kids
I think at very low speeds (10mph and below like a lot of the ones in the video going around) they should be able to use another vehicle to block or stop the bike but any higher and I think they should call in another bike to take over as its a very risky thing to do at higher speeds and could cost unnecessary lives
I think at very low speeds (10mph and below like a lot of the ones in the video going around) they should be able to use another vehicle to block or stop the bike but any higher and I think they should call in another bike to take over as its a very risky thing to do at higher speeds and could cost unnecessary lives
once you hit 13 and you're robbing people at knife point .. you're not worth a second thought in my books. I'd have 10 of them knocked off and killed over one innocent person."Oh he was a lovely lad .. never hurt anyone .." apart from the 27 people who phones he stole, the 12 mopeds he robbed and the six people he hit with a weapon to get what he wanted ..
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26 November 2018, 08:44 AM
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Ahhh, it’s brilliant! The video on bbc... you can almost see the scrawny **** gesture like ‘that’s not fair’
People saying its its too harsh and someone innocent is gonna get hurt, come on shake yourself here. Many innocent people are getting hurt and threatened every day because of these idiots. Emotional trauma from having their bike/phone/Watch stolen, threatened with knives/hammers or if you’re really unlucky stabbed or having acid thrown over you ruining your life. I’m more than happy with the slim risk a member of the public gets hurt in the catching process. Just think the goal here is to STOP the crimes, if they succeed then they won’t be doing these tactics anyway. If it carries on many innocent people would be getting hurt.
As for accidentally getting knocked off, seriously come on! That’s never going to happen. You’d have to have been ID’d escaping a crime and not stopping with a police pursuit going on, let’s get things in perspective.
I think something had had to be done after the formation of biker biker and handmuff warrior taking action.
I’m looking forward to someone doing a half hour compilation of all the ramming & Reading the comment section of the YT video, will be excellent.
On the subject, had anyone seen handmuff’s vids of his instagram live chats? Usually results in some nasty little chav joining in to tell him they’re going to kill him. I really don’t get how they can get away with the stuff they do online! These kids have instagram accounts bragging on their stolen vehicles.
People saying its its too harsh and someone innocent is gonna get hurt, come on shake yourself here. Many innocent people are getting hurt and threatened every day because of these idiots. Emotional trauma from having their bike/phone/Watch stolen, threatened with knives/hammers or if you’re really unlucky stabbed or having acid thrown over you ruining your life. I’m more than happy with the slim risk a member of the public gets hurt in the catching process. Just think the goal here is to STOP the crimes, if they succeed then they won’t be doing these tactics anyway. If it carries on many innocent people would be getting hurt.
As for accidentally getting knocked off, seriously come on! That’s never going to happen. You’d have to have been ID’d escaping a crime and not stopping with a police pursuit going on, let’s get things in perspective.
I think something had had to be done after the formation of biker biker and handmuff warrior taking action.
I’m looking forward to someone doing a half hour compilation of all the ramming & Reading the comment section of the YT video, will be excellent.
On the subject, had anyone seen handmuff’s vids of his instagram live chats? Usually results in some nasty little chav joining in to tell him they’re going to kill him. I really don’t get how they can get away with the stuff they do online! These kids have instagram accounts bragging on their stolen vehicles.
26 November 2018, 08:58 AM
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Im sure they picked the hardest impact vid to show us all , to deter future toerags. Thought he'd go straight up land on the roof , thankfully he didnt smash the screen
26 November 2018, 09:58 AM
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In each case in the video, the police only take them out when it is clearly safe to do so from the perspective of injuring passers-by - the police are trained and know what they are doing. Innocent people stop for the police, if they run, knock em off - it works both as a deterrent an a form of instant justice! Keep up the good work!
30 November 2018, 06:47 PM
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once you hit 13 and you're robbing people at knife point .. you're not worth a second thought in my books. I'd have 10 of them knocked off and killed over one innocent person."Oh he was a lovely lad .. never hurt anyone .." apart from the 27 people who phones he stole, the 12 mopeds he robbed and the six people he hit with a weapon to get what he wanted ..
Maybe their brethren would think twice when they see them cruising the estate in their wheelchairs, not looking so tough then are they.
02 December 2018, 05:18 PM
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In each case in the video, the police only take them out when it is clearly safe to do so from the perspective of injuring passers-by - the police are trained and know what they are doing. Innocent people stop for the police, if they run, knock em off - it works both as a deterrent an a form of instant justice! Keep up the good work!
I assume you don't watch many of the police, camera, action, type progs, where supposedly "trained" pursuit drivers repeatedly FAIL to stop pursued drivers, often leaving huge holes in what anyone can see should be a foolproof trap?
However, the news that the renowned Diane Abbott is against this policy makes me think it's more than likely the right policy
04 December 2018, 07:24 PM
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And here it starts, the first cop under criminal investigation for knocking a guilty punk with no helmet off his scooter.
https://news.sky.com/story/met-polic...-teen-11571434
https://news.sky.com/story/met-polic...-teen-11571434
04 December 2018, 11:28 PM
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But Labour has raised concerns about the approach, which shadow home secretary Diane Abbott said was "potentially very dangerous".
