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Old Apr 5, 2017 | 08:27 PM
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My old mate of 50 plus years has caught C in a big way. Now in his leg, a kidney and possibly his brain. He has a few weeks left. He is at home with care and resisting calls for him to go into a hospice. I am unable to visit him but had a longish chat on the phone.

He is in a lot of pain and on morphine which does help. He told me he would love to have a drink but Dr said he shouldn't whilst he is on morphine. But he would say that wouldn't he

So should I say "sod it do what you want" or is it likely there would be a serious reaction. This dilemma is way above my pay scale so what do you think?

Thank you, no jokes please. David
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Old Apr 5, 2017 | 08:32 PM
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Having skim read through this I think it would be a very bad idea.

https://drugs-forum.com/threads/morp...lcohol.141793/

Hope that helps. Sorry to hear about your mate.
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Old Apr 5, 2017 | 08:37 PM
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Having skim read through this I think it would be a very bad idea.

https://drugs-forum.com/threads/morp...lcohol.141793/

Hope that helps. Sorry to hear about your mate.
Well that seems pretty clear. Thanks for that. I'll have to drink for him then

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Smoke some green be much better for him
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Old Apr 5, 2017 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by RAGGY DOO
Smoke some green be much better for him
Not sure his carer would approve although I do agree with you...........

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I used to be on slow release morphine, 30mg, twice daily.

I enjoyed a drink, but not to excess and had no adverse reactions. It depends on how much morphine and if it's slow release or not.

I HATED the morphine itch........
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Or you could make some oil and give it to him that way
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I found a single beer mixed very well with the opiate pills that I was once on; whether it was good for me is another matter. Canna oil is widely used as an alternative cancer treatment, with some success. It's an evil illness that touches too many, all the best to your friend.
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Hi,
If your friend is on high dose morphine and then consumes alcohol - the risk is that this will depress his respiration and he will stop breathing.
Some might say that if he is really suffering - then that is not a bad thing.
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Originally Posted by RAGGY DOO
Smoke some green be much better for him
Agree

Originally Posted by David Lock
Not sure his carer would approve although I do agree with you...........

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My freind Sean passed away last week I spent the last 8 years shouting oreeet Sean! From the kitchen door But now he's gone he was only 48 never easy losing a friend to C
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Sorry to hear about your mate.
Just been to a mates funeral today , he was 51.
Told he had liver cancer just 8 weeks ago.
It s a cruel disease.
As said, would it be a bad way to go if he stopped breathing now ,if he is n such pain?
Difficult one to be honest. The beer option for me I think.
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Old Apr 6, 2017 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by njkmrs
Sorry to hear about your mate.
Just been to a mates funeral today , he was 51.
Told he had liver cancer just 8 weeks ago.
It s a cruel disease.
As said, would it be a bad way to go if he stopped breathing now ,if he is n such pain?
Difficult one to be honest. The beer option for me I think.
51, s,hit that's too young.

I spoke to my pal briefly but didn't mention any thoughts re booze but I might mention a small can of Guinness next time.

Pleased to say he still has a sense of humour as he was saying if he is forced into a hospice there is only one way he would leave, horizontally. I said he might as well get a deck chair and sit and wait in the cemetery which he smiled at

Thanks all for your understanding

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Yep way too young .
He did have us laughing all the way to the end though.
He went out with the music from the end of tom and jerry cartoon with a "that's all folks" to finish it as he disappeared through the curtains.
Now that I have not witnessed before.
It is amazing to see how he accepted his fate and his family stayed so strong .

Hopefully your mate wont suffer too much and im sure a can of Guinness will not harm him too much.
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Personally, if I only had a few weeks to live I'd eat and drink whatever I damn well pleased. I'd probably take up smoking again as well!

Sorry to hear about your mate DL, hopefully he will see out his time peacefully.
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Originally Posted by David Lock
51, s,hit that's too young.

I spoke to my pal briefly but didn't mention any thoughts re booze but I might mention a small can of Guinness next time.

Pleased to say he still has a sense of humour as he was saying if he is forced into a hospice there is only one way he would leave, horizontally. I said he might as well get a deck chair and sit and wait in the cemetery which he smiled at

Thanks all for your understanding

David

So, he is now nearer to the end of his life.

In that case.....


Originally Posted by Dingdongler
Personally, if I only had a few weeks to live I'd eat and drink whatever I damn well pleased. I'd probably take up smoking again as well!

Sorry to hear about your mate DL, hopefully he will see out his time peacefully.
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My mother in law (much older; 77) is in a similar situation due to her various ailments, not Cancer, but no end-of-life medical declaration has been made for her yet. So, she's on controlled intake in the hospital. The day it becomes known that she's quite near to depart the world, I'll suggest to the family to feed her what she likes. But by then, she will not be able to eat and enjoy any food intake properly. She's already there with this thought of her favourite foods being tempting to her, but intake nearly impossible. She asked for cheese and biscuits from M&S the other day, but could only manage 1/3rd of a small biscuit coated with cheese. A difficult one.
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Well just to close this thread. My old pal bailed out last night. He was taken to a hospice a couple of days ago and spent most of his time sleeping which I guess was due to generous shots of morphine and died in his sleep.

Oddly I don't feel especially sad but slightly depressed that death faces us all.

But some good memories of fun together going back 50 years. I'll raise my glass to you tonight Richard.

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Originally Posted by David Lock
Well just to close this thread. My old pal bailed out last night. He was taken to a hospice a couple of days ago and spent most of his time sleeping which I guess was due to generous shots of morphine and died in his sleep.

Oddly I don't feel especially sad but slightly depressed that death faces us all.

But some good memories of fun together going back 50 years. I'll raise my glass to you tonight Richard.

David
David, may your friend rest in peace.
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Originally Posted by David Lock
Well just to close this thread. My old pal bailed out last night. He was taken to a hospice a couple of days ago and spent most of his time sleeping which I guess was due to generous shots of morphine and died in his sleep.

Oddly I don't feel especially sad but slightly depressed that death faces us all.

But some good memories of fun together going back 50 years. I'll raise my glass to you tonight Richard.

David
My thoughts are with you pal .. rip

Hey atleast you've got good memories to remind you of all the good times you had and that's going to be priceless to get you through these times I know exactly what your going through
unfortunately we all have to go one day and to never going to be easy mate
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Rip mate very sorry for your loss
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Old Apr 14, 2017 | 06:29 PM
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Sorry to hear.
The memories will remain so enjoy a drink for him tonight.
Life really is too short which is very easy to forget in this day and age.
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Thanks guys and TH, David
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Old Apr 16, 2017 | 06:27 AM
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Very sad, I've lost plenty of older family members but never a peer. Not looking forward to that day.

All the best
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