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Old Nov 26, 2016 | 11:28 AM
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I rather admired him from afar..
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Old Nov 26, 2016 | 11:36 AM
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Sadly, not really recommended in a Scooby.
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Sadly, not really recommended in a Scooby.

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(Fidal Magnatec. )

I was wondering if anyone would pick up on it. As inane as the pun was.

Sorry.

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It was rather crude.
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It was rather crude.

He he

*boom! - drops mic*

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As long as it's not too slippery, it's ok, Joz.

I thought it was quite good, not inane at all.
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He he

*boom! - drops mic*
Just Havana laugh, Joz.
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Old Nov 26, 2016 | 12:20 PM
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The man definateley left his mark.
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Just Havana laugh, Joz.

Cuban not be serious?!
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Cuban not be serious?!
When a smoker I asked my missus for “something Cuban” for my birthday. She got me a Che Guevara t-shirt.

Clothes, but no cigar.

(Yes, I know Che was Argentine! )

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When a smoker I asked my missus for “something Cuban” for my birthday. She got me a Che Guevara t-shirt.

Clothes, but no cigar.



Enough.

Enough now.


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It was rather crude.

Thats were Castro Magnatec comes from.
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one often overlooked Castro/Cuban initiative was using its impressive health service (it has better health outcomes than most developed countries) to provide medical assistance for "really" poor countries in world

in any international disaster often the fist medical aid will be Cuban doctors

"Missions abroad are intended to provide services at low cost to the host country. "Patients are not charged for services, and the recipient countries are expected to cover only the cost of collective housing, air fare, and limited food and supplies not exceeding $200 a month. While Cuban doctors are abroad, they continue to receive their salaries as well as a stipend in foreign currency."[2] Pay for Cuban doctors abroad, while much higher than at home ($23 per month) is still low by international standards ($183 per month)."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_...ternationalism

Castro/Cuba - not perfect, no one is, but better than Saudi Arabia
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I always think of the classic Nineteen by Paul Hardcastle, when I hear Che Guevara (as in the song's Ronald Reagan sample).


EDIT: I'm getting my 80s song's mixed up! I meant the War (what is it good for?) cover, by FGTH. Said RR sample was a spoof (I think), voiced by Chris Barrie.

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Thats were Castro Magnatec comes from.
You're rather late to the party (check out from post #2)...
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you only need look the way Batista behaved to see how Castro would be welcomed , at the time !
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
one often overlooked Castro/Cuban initiative was using its impressive health service (it has better health outcomes than most developed countries) to provide medical assistance for "really" poor countries in world

in any international disaster often the fist medical aid will be Cuban doctors

"Missions abroad are intended to provide services at low cost to the host country. "Patients are not charged for services, and the recipient countries are expected to cover only the cost of collective housing, air fare, and limited food and supplies not exceeding $200 a month. While Cuban doctors are abroad, they continue to receive their salaries as well as a stipend in foreign currency."[2] Pay for Cuban doctors abroad, while much higher than at home ($23 per month) is still low by international standards ($183 per month)."

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Castro/Cuba - not perfect, no one is, but better than Saudi Arabia
Lizzy's aunty loves all that stuff. Her late consultant husband volunteered for Médecins Sans Frontières and she's an absolute classic champagne socialist! I'm rather fond of her, but after a few drinks I like nothing better than to imitate her absurdly posh accent whilst espousing the value of the proles.
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... she's an absolute classic champagne socialist! ... absurdly posh accent whilst espousing the value of the proles.

Like that Charlie mort in Busted.
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Lizzy's aunty loves all that stuff. Her late consultant husband volunteered for Médecins Sans Frontières and she's an absolute classic champagne socialist! I'm rather fond of her, but after a few drinks I like nothing better than to imitate her absurdly posh accent whilst espousing the value of the proles.
an old friend of mine was director of MSF - I think to stop autocracy you can only be director for a year

yes, I read a really good piece about "champagne socialism" a few years ago

the central point being that it is used as a somewhat pejorative term to isolate the poor and disadvantaged, a sort of soft serengeti strategy

but I do accept it can get irritating to be constantly berated by Bono Sting and DiCaprio et al

everything from poverty to climate change

it is said of Sting - that he does so much good work for a planet he no longer lives on

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an old friend of mine was director of MSF - I think to stop autocracy you can only be director for a year

yes, I read a really good piece about "champagne socialism" a few years ago

the central point being that it is used as a somewhat pejorative term to isolate the poor and disadvantaged, a sort of soft serengeti strategy

but I do accept it can get irritating to be constantly berated by Bono Sting and DiCaprio et al

everything from poverty to climate change

it is said of Sting - that he does so much good work for a planet he no longer lives on
I think I called you a ' limousine liberal' once!

All these perjorative terms are flawed of course, but they do paint a picture. Engels owned the means of production, but I wouldn't have called him a champagne socialist. Aunty Sally (I do a cracking Wurzul impression when inebriated) is no Engels, though. She goes on about bloomin' Palestine and the homeless and any other cause célèbre that might adorn the pages of the Guardian. She wouldn't go somewhere on the Med. the other month due to the "appalling plight" of drowning refugees. I get all of it, but it somehow irks me and, as you say, one can't help but think it's all a bit Bonoesque. I do love her though and she has a certain class - will see her at the cottage in Yarpole this Christmas. There'll be quite staggering consumption and an embarrassment of riches and she'll love every minute of it!

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I think I called you a ' limousine liberal' once!
I actually remember it as "champagne socialist" :-)

in response to a picture of my wife and children skiing

we are all imperfect beings - as you well know

and could well be wrong
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
I actually remember it as "champagne socialist" :-)

in response to a picture of my wife and children skiing

we are all imperfect beings - as you well know

and could well be wrong
Absolutely. Anyway, I apologise and not before time.
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Absolutely. Anyway, I apologise and not before time.
no worries, and I have rarely said anything I regret on SN, but prob did about you back in the day

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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
no worries, and I have rarely said anything I regret on SN, but prob did about you back in the day

life is too short
Give us a kiss!
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Well guess where my sister is having saved up for a mid-winter break. Correct Cuba


Not going to be much fun there! Been trying to get in touch with her about something else but no mobile calls although texting seems to work - odd.


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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...-a7189196.html

Take a while get through that one !
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Originally Posted by dpb
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...-a7189196.html

Take a while get through that one !

I almost spat my tea out at the headline, when I saw the "90m".

Without engaging the brain, I immediately thought it meant £90M!
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