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Old Oct 14, 2015 | 10:19 AM
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Old Oct 14, 2015 | 11:23 AM
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What are you questioning?
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Old Oct 14, 2015 | 11:55 AM
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I love the bloke who comes in around 0:55 in the dark shirt who starts trying to play the big man.
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Old Oct 14, 2015 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Paben
What are you questioning?
Corporate responsibility: are all Jews guilty of the displacement of so-called Palestinians and of the acts of violence carried against them and if so are all Jews a legitimate target for 'revenge' by Palestinian Muslims? We can invert the question if you like and ask the same of the Jews committing acts of revenge against the Palestinians. So, is there a mandate for corporate responsibility - yes or no and why?

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Old Oct 14, 2015 | 01:53 PM
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You think he asked what time is the bus jew??
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Old Oct 14, 2015 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Corporate responsibility: are all Jews guilty of the displacement of so-called Palestinians and of the acts of violence carried against them and if so are all Jews a legitimate target for 'revenge' by Palestinian Muslims? We can invert the question if you like and ask the same of the Jews committing acts of violence against the Palestinians. So, is there a mandate for corporate responsibility - yes or no and why?

Ah, so Scoobynet must now resolve one of the most persistent and complex conflicts in the modern world. Good luck with that one! And they're not 'so-called' Palestinians, they are Palestinians. The Jews are the invaders.
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Old Oct 14, 2015 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Paben
Ah, so Scoobynet must now resolve one of the most persistent and complex conflicts in the modern world. Good luck with that one! And they're not 'so-called' Palestinians, they are Palestinians. The Jews are the invaders.
In which case, do all Jewish Israelis share corporate responsibility? Are all Jewish Israelis legitimate targets for Muslim Palestinians?
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
In which case, do all Jewish Israelis share corporate responsibility? Are all Jewish Israelis legitimate targets for Muslim Palestinians?

What about the many thousands of Christian Palestinians? They could make just as strong a case against the Israelis as the Muslims.
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Originally Posted by Paben
What about the many thousands of Christian Palestinians? They could make just as strong a case against the Israelis as the Muslims.
What about them? They make up about 1% of Gaza and the West Bank. I'm talking about the 99%. So, are those people at the bus stop a legitimate target?
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Old Oct 14, 2015 | 03:32 PM
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religion is evil full stop. man made with no facts, just here say.
religion is the cause of 99% of war/terrorism.
its all crackers, my 2 pence..
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Old Oct 14, 2015 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
What about them? They make up about 1% of Gaza and the West Bank. I'm talking about the 99%. So, are those people at the bus stop a legitimate target?

What do you think?
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Is anyone a legitimate target?
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Originally Posted by Paben
What do you think?
Well there's a Qu'ranic mandate for violence against perceived aggressors, there's certainly a mandate from Hamas and the murderer in the footage clearly believed his target was legitimate or he wouldn't have perpetrated the attack. I think all three subjects are errant and that actually the victims were just waiting for a bus. The murderer will be considered a martyr in large parts of Gaza. He will be celebrated. One assumes that those doing the considering and celebrating will be sure of the legitimacy of the target.
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Is anyone a legitimate target?
See above.
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Old Oct 14, 2015 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Well there's a Qu'ranic mandate for violence against perceived aggressors, there's certainly a mandate from Hamas and the murderer in the footage clearly believed his target was legitimate or he wouldn't have perpetrated the attack. I think all three subjects are errant and that actually the victims were just waiting for a bus. The murderer will be considered a martyr in large parts of Gaza. He will be celebrated. One assumes that those doing the considering and celebrating will be sure of the legitimacy of the target.

If you are claiming that the perpetrators of terrorist atrocities are the arbiters of legitimacy then by that definition all such acts are 'legitimate'. Which of course is ridiculous.

And what on earth is that fpos using as a weapon? It's either a weedy taser or a spud gun!
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Originally Posted by Paben
If you are claiming that the perpetrators of terrorist atrocities are the arbiters of legitimacy then by that definition all such acts are 'legitimate'. Which of course is ridiculous.
I gave three examples with the third standing on the shoulders of the other two.

And what on earth is that fpos using as a weapon? It's either a weedy taser or a spud gun!
Water pistol?
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Old Oct 14, 2015 | 06:47 PM
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Agree with Alcazar above. What (Who) is a legitimate target ?

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Old Oct 14, 2015 | 06:56 PM
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**** me the guy was like a terminator, gets shot multiple
times but keeps getting back up.
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Old Oct 14, 2015 | 07:25 PM
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Jeez, that video is horrific.
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Old Oct 14, 2015 | 09:39 PM
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If you look around hard enough I'm sure there are people who think Lee Rigby was a legitimate target. That doesn't mean they're right of course, just that for every crackpot view-point you could conceivably think of, there'll be someone thick or crazy enough to swallow it and think it makes perfect sense. The fact that followers of a certain Middle-Eastern religious faith seem to have an above-average propensity for this trait is of course purely coincidental.
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Old Oct 16, 2015 | 04:21 PM
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I think the legitimate targets are those religous leaders in mosques and synagogues who view any other religion but there own as legitimate target
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