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Old 02 October 2015, 06:36 AM
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Default War, what is it good for?

A question came to mind when reading another thread, " Perpetual War" not being much of a history buff with regards chronological order, I thought I'd see if you guys could help put it together.

So the question.

Has there ever been a time in history when we have not been at war.

Seems to me like for as far back as I can recall mankind has been fighting wars, whether they be out and out "declared" War in more recent times or some involvement in other nations wars, or just generally going around the world poking the natives with a sword.

Will we ever stop wanting to kill each other to make our point or some money.
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Absolutely nothing ?


There's a song in there somewhere, can't remember who it was though

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Old 02 October 2015, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by dpb
Absolutely nothing ?


There's a song in their somewhere, can't remember who it was though
Frankie goes to Hollywood I think
Old 02 October 2015, 07:19 AM
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Try Edwin Star.

But the song wasn't meant to be what the discussion was about, it was just a bit of a pun on my part, but I guess I deserve it.
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Was anyone fighting 1918-39?

We fought two wars to sort the Germans out, they wanted to run Europe, good job we stopped them....oh...wait....
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Originally Posted by wrx300scooby
Frankie goes to Hollywood I think
Yep it was in the track Two Tribes
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Reminds me of Blackadder

Baldrick: The thing is: The way I see it, these days there's a war on, right? and, ages ago, there wasn't a war on, right? So, there must have been a moment when there not being a war on went away, right? and there being a war on came along. So, what I want to know is: How did we get from the one case of affairs to the other case of affairs?

Edmund: Do you mean "Why did the war start?"

Baldrick: Yeah.

George: The war started because of the vile Hun and his villainous empire-building.

Edmund: George, the British Empire at present covers a quarter of the globe, while the German Empire consists of a small sausage factory in Tanganyika. I hardly think that we can be entirely absolved of blame on the imperialistic front.

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I am guessing it depends on which country you are from, if it's the USA then they need war to keep their troops busy as they will get funded while in combat plus the other things that come from it, destroying buildings means they can then rebuild then too and so on...if you are on the receiving end I don't think there are many pluses.
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
A question came to mind when reading another thread, " Perpetual War" not being much of a history buff with regards chronological order, I thought I'd see if you guys could help put it together.

So the question.

Has there ever been a time in history when we have not been at war.

Seems to me like for as far back as I can recall mankind has been fighting wars, whether they be out and out "declared" War in more recent times or some involvement in other nations wars, or just generally going around the world poking the natives with a sword.

Will we ever stop wanting to kill each other to make our point or some money.
I've thought a lot about 'perpetual war' since my posts on the FB thread. I think there are a couple of main issues.

The first is that wars are, at times, just; a necessary evil. The second is the more sinister war, a kind unjust and which is simply evil. The latter in its worst guise is a hoax, a means by which the controlling elite can marshall the remaining 99% to some kind of order. The war on 'terror' is absurd! You can't defeat 'terror' (just as one can't defeat drugs in that other 'war') - so we're left with an endless tit for tat between one gaggle of sociopaths and another. Well I say ignore it and ignore them. It's a nonsense and so are they. Enjoy life, you don't need protection from the state, there are, in reality, very few bogey men.

We will oneday live in peace, I firmly believe the meek shall inherit this beautiful planet. War is not peace - don't believe the hype!
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
We will oneday live in peace, I firmly believe the meek shall inherit this beautiful planet. War is not peace - don't believe the hype!
As much as it would be a good result, let's be honest, it will never happen. So long as religion exists, war will exist.
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When i was at school my history lessons were made up of war and battles so what has changed?.
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Originally Posted by Peedee
As much as it would be a good result, let's be honest, it will never happen. So long as religion exists, war will exist.
As long as power hungry psychos bent on dominating other human beings exist, so will war. Humans will overcome this sickness.
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war will always happen as mp's are shareholders in arms manufactures, and of course as the joke goes
why does god allow wars to happen ?
answer so americans can learn geography
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Good for technological advancement and economics
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
A question came to mind when reading another thread, " Perpetual War" not being much of a history buff with regards chronological order, I thought I'd see if you guys could help put it together.

So the question.

Has there ever been a time in history when we have not been at war.

Seems to me like for as far back as I can recall mankind has been fighting wars, whether they be out and out "declared" War in more recent times or some involvement in other nations wars, or just generally going around the world poking the natives with a sword.

Will we ever stop wanting to kill each other to make our point or some money.
Three things makes us go to war in reverse order

#3 commodity ( money oil food etc )
#2 injustice ( persecution land grab ethnic cleansing etc)
#1 religion ( my imaginary god is better than yours etc )

Its the way of the world, we are programed from school church history etc and we go along with it , when it is so wrong on all accounts. Life is to short and even sorter for the brainwashed from the government, media or religion
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It seems we all accept it as just the way it is.


I don't think there has ever been a time in history where there wasn't some sort of war going on somewhere.

Mankind is doomed it would seem, with all our supposed intelligence and superiority over all other life on this planet, it would seem we are happier to allow mankind to suffer and kill one an other than see animals harmed for food.

What a strange species we are.
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Yeah a counter point to War is h.a.p.p.y Radio


It is a "musical natural high"
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i woudnt even been aware that in 1979 , which is a shame
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Originally Posted by Cpt Jack Sparrow
Yep it was in the track Two Tribes
Cheers Captain
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Originally Posted by Ginola
awesome ,

i think they were also the first band to be banned in my time , after God save the queen
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